They always were going to lose! Jagex - "NO THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE!!!!!!!" Player1 - "Erm hang on Jagex, I connect using Firefox, that's not owned by me, or you so thats third party" Player2 - "Yeah I use Internet Explorer, that's third party also" Jagex - "Third party is kinda OK now, just we don't recommend it" Guess they shouldn't have made a game with Java :lol: