MotherBrainII

One of my friends with 86 range just hit 30 with the spec, using bone bolts. Not sure if they potted or prayed.

Mind standing still while I excoriate you for that?] EDIT: Though I admit it's true in some cases.

If fired incredibly fast they could start a chain reaction. Now, NEUTRINOS. They can't do anything whatsoever, so they wouldn't be able to kill you.

Hmm. How can I tell if a girl I spend a fair amount of time with but rarely talk to likes me?

Ahaha, that is win. What boots are those - mystic or infinity?

The only time I've ever heard about it being faster was some mention from the quest guy about it, but I recently tried to find evidence and found nothing about it on the KB. I concluded that the 'faster' was talking about it being able to autocast. I know it isn't noticeable, if it does. Someday I should test it in the duel arena with a friend, but meh. Just posting to confirm that this is false.

Hey, it might. Within 3 seconds of her being dumped by or dumping her previous boyfriend, you must ask her out, or at that point she is undateable. :P And yes, I know this is in reality a stupid idea.

Mage isn't weak because.... ranged exists? Am I missing something here?

Or the mage could use Miasmic spells and go all out against the ranger with attack bonus while still having an almost okay range defense, since he will now be dealing more damage per minute. He can combine this with ice spells to prevent the ranger from attacking if he is good enough, thereby owning the ranger without even having to hybrid. LOSS. Loss exacerbated by the fact that most rangers just wear melee tanking gear not expecting to get attacked by a mage, thereby negating their mage defense advantage. I can vouch for the fact that dragonhide is nearly useless against my mage attacks, at least. It just reduces my hit rate from about 99% to about 90%, and if my first attack hits, my opponent is dead anyway. And sorry to drag on about this, but I've heard from a couple of sources that autocasting ancients with an ancient staff increases your attack speed to that of a whip. Can you confirm or refute this?

Ah, I see. I think using a Master Wand would make it harder to eat/prayer switch, so an ancient staff would probably be better. That and the fact you don't have to worry about clicking on someone by accident and uselessly meleeing them, which would be far worse than an accidental blood barrage (I tend to have Ice Barrage on autocast anyway, so I can freeze them at short notice).

So is a Master Wand worth using over an Ancient Staff? I mean, not being able to autocast could be a hassle. I guess just using Zuriel's Staff the whole time is also an option.

Was the player who did this actually fighting the giants themselves?

http://www.truthscape.com/html/ts_TheTr ... ubbish.htm I think that sums up my reaction to this thread.

And often it's the PJers that complain about safing. I find that amusing. I don't get called a safer generally - they're too busy whining at me for farcasting instead of "coming on and fighting" (???). EDIT: I just remembered a time someone whined at me for praying - when they had started using protect prayers first. I mean, WTF? Just ignore them. You might be a "noob" but you have their stuff and they don't.

Ahaha, good point. Even the spirit spider is fairly good. And of course, a high level player is going to consider low level features to be useless...

Hmm, you do mean +78 attack, right? (And what outfit is this?) If so, then the +50 increase in magic attack seems to do very little against Karil's and Armadyl's. Seems rather odd, and makes me wonder if there is a certain threshold at which magic becomes much less accurate, rather than a gradual decrease. And what DO you do when you come across someone in karil's or Armadyl's? I like to be prepared for all situations, lol. Also, how much longer is magic's range than the MSB and Crossbow, and am I correct in thinking that people using longrange can offset this difference? (Not that a lot are smart enough to, and it still reduces their attack speed, but still) I edited my post while you were posting (ignore this if you also edited yours).

It depends on whether or not you bother to train it past level 35 or so.

(Note I'm discussing here, not arguing, as for the most part I agree with you) Ah, so you opt for the long drawn out fight in a specialised area rather than the anti-mage environment most seem to fight in? Seems reasonable, and perhaps explains why I do so much better maging in the DA than anywhere else. If you were to use pure magic offense gear and mostly disregard defense, how accurately would you hit on high mage defense? Armadyl only has about a +20 magic defense advantage over dragonhide, and I see no reason why a +30-40 increase in magic attack would not be enough to offset this. If anyone here has the items required for +146 magic attack, I'd like to see how accurately you hit on Karil's, Armadyl, and Morrigan's (though nobody uses that - perhaps the fact that I completely disregard expense when maging puts me at a huge advantage against those who do not?) On a side note, in pure magic offense gear (+135 attack, I can certainly do better) and +27 mage defense, I recently managed to take down a Crystal Bow user using Miasmic Barrage. Sure is underpowered against range, huh? EDIT: Off topic a bit, but my current hypothetical all-purpose mage PVP outfit is Zuriel's Staff, Verac's Helm, Zuriel's top and legs, Barrows Gloves, Infinity Boots, Seers Ring, an Arcane Spirit Shield, a cape from the Mage Arena, and a Fury. Do you have any suggestions on how I can improve this?

You can use a whip, Torag's plate and Verac's Skirt, and still have decent magic offense? Also, how can you use combos to hit 60+ *in a single attack turn*?

The problem is that you won't find many people in areas outside of the typical Edgeville like zones.

Da_Latios, you have failed me. You only just corrected that spelling mistake despite me pointing it out 35+ pages ago. As repentance (is that a word?), you must tell us this story.

Pures are there to provide easy fodder for whenever I feel like using my Dark Bow. I almost invariably hit 60+ on them with the spec at 82 range.

Congratulations, just about every high demand item in the game just became untradable.

- Grammar Nazis, especially those who try to claim their pedancy (is that a word?) was an attempt at making a valid point. This isn't a dig at the ealier such posts in this topic as much as a general complaint. - People who actively try to join in a team activity, then refuse to do anything productive whatsoever. - People incapable of understanding basic logical argument. - People who complain about something incessantly, but instead of doing something about it when in a position to, simply say "I can't be bothered" and then continue to complain. - People who complain about things to people who are neither involved in the matter nor in any position to do anything about it. - Persistent procrastinators. - People who don't even understand the concept of "planning ahead" and avoiding the consequences of your actions. - Celebrity culture and related gossip. On a related note, Big Brother and all related gossip. (Oddly, I have no problem with political gossip) - Girls who tart themselves up excessively. No, those 4 square miles of lipstick don't make you look more attractive to me. (Thankfully, I'm not the sort of person such people want to attract) - Gender discrimination. Against EITHER gender. - People who assume they have permission to touch me physically until specifically told otherwise. - People who assume they can use my property as long as I am not using it, most especially those who then say "I'm using it" and refuse to return it when I actually DO want to use it. - People that are completely blind to their own shortcomings and take any attempts to inform them as personal attacks regardless of how tactfully they are informed. - People who are quick to take credit when their ideas work but will come up with every excuse under the sun to absolve themselves of responsibility when they don't. - People who do things to look "cool" or rebellious. - People who try to force their opinions on others, most commonly vegetarians (though thankfully most don't bring it up unless it is actually relevant to the subject of our conversation). - People who ask blatantly loaded questions, or ask a question repeatedly until a specific answer is given and do anything they can to convince me to give said answer. Nothing annoys me more than when these people later try to claim the question was entirely neutral and therefore any answer given was my own free choice. - Ad hominems in debates. Period. - Unjustified arrogance. - "Your mum" comments and innuendos. I can occasionally tolerate them when the innuendo was blaringly obvious anyway, but not with things such as "YOUR MUM went to fetch a chair!" - People who call others out on racism or other discrimination at every opportunity, no matter how vague. - Smokers. - Immaturity all round. This probably includes many of the above. - Vulgar language unless used VERY sparingly. - People who suddenly lose interest in a previously heated argument when they are losing, declaring that "nobody cares" and try to make me look stupid when I try to continue it. - Anyone who sees women as sex objects. Some even have the nerve to accuse me of being gay for not sharing this opinion, which really gets to me. Same goes for people who assume that I will fail at life because I'm a virgin at 16. - People who refuse to shut up about global warming and expect others to seriously inconvenience themselves to make a VERY SMALL contribution to saving the planet. (Such as keeping a light turned off when doing schoolwork, or turning a monitor off whenever it is not being directly read or looked at.) - People who take far longer than is necessary to explain a point or answer a very simple question. - People who can't take a joke. I can excuse this when they have a valid reason to be offended. - Babies crying loudly in public. Just because they can't help it doesn't mean I am not entitled to be annoyed by it. - Inconsiderate people who expect everyone else to adapt to them. - JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS AND APPORTIONING UNDUE BLAME. Hello? Innocent until proven guilty?

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