lordkafei

The last five tunes in the iTunes shuffle: The Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil Paul McCartney - Stranglehold Aerosmith - Rag Doll Electric Light Orchestra - The Diary of Horace Wimp Camper Van Beethoven - The Day That Lassie Went to the Moon

Just go to RSOF and search for a thread named "Penguin Locations" - this will show the base areas where the birds are. Then search for them in your own world rather than fighting the crowds on W60. It's a lot easier than it sounds. You can usually hear them walking, where as on W60 people get all obsessed about trapping the birds and not stepping on people, opening doors, etc.

We can't all be happy all the time. -.- And farmers have definitely gotten the sweet end of the deal. I was watching the news today about GM and about how plants are going idle for weeks to let demand catch up with supply. Now I realize you can't freeze herblore for 2 or 3 months to let the market buy up potions. But we need a similar mechanism to balance things out. Chew on this idea... We have house teleports that let you use large piles of runes on a portal and create gateways with permanent teleportation capabilities. Let's apply this to the potion glut. How about a way to imbue jewelry with the attributes of potions? Say you provide 100, 250 or more of a potion and a ring/amulet/necklace/bracelet to some NPC, along with perhaps a cash fee. The NPC gives you back an item that will protect you from poison, or raise your fishing 3 levels, or anything else you can currently do with a potion. You wouldn't have to re-dose - just wear the item. That would help whittle down the stockpiles of potions. Let the free players have jewelry imbued with normal attack/strength/defense pots and give the supers to members. We could even use the shilo fletching gems in these new rings/amulets/necklaces/bracelets and help out the miners too. Doesn't hurt the farmers, helps the herblorists...

I was thinking just now about ways to reduce the glut of potions floating around. Making these f2p-consumable could be a quick fix, if they are willing to buy. I have always looked at f2p as mainly the suppliers of raw materials, not consumers of finished products. Perhaps my view is outdated. Here's an idea I will throw out: double or triple the amount of XP given for making a potion. This will have a positive long-term effect - people would only need to make 1/2 or 1/3 as many potions to get their skillcapes. Eventually, demand would catch up with supply and the glut would be whittled down. At that point, normal market forces might keep potion prices in line. Could that work?

I have been assuming that the people who are buying my cleaned herbs are converting them to potions. But for all I know, it could just be a merch clan buying them up and hoarding them. But I have no problems selling cleaned herbs by the thousands.

Yeah, the only expense there is the vials of water. But these are not tradable in the form you describe, so they cannot make a profit. They can break even at best. Now, if you go the barbarian route and add fish eggs, you can [supposedly] sell them for about 200gp a dose. What sort of xp/hour do you get? I am betting not 40k.

After spending a long sojourn mining falling stars and felling evil trees, I have recently returned to other skills. During a recent slayer assignment, I received a smattering of higher herb seeds. Now that I have gotten my farming cape, I was looking to sell the seeds for some coin. Imagine my surprise when I checked the prices on herb seeds: G.H.P = Grimy Herb Price, as per the G.E. at the time of posting Species Seed Price G.H.P. G.H.P. * 6.6 Avg. Profit per Seed Torstol 14100 3178 20975 6875 Dwarf Weed 7216 2018 13319 6102 Lantadyme 1391 1225 8085 6694 Cadantine 910 1223 8072 7162 Snapdragon 48800 9788 64600 15800 Kwuarm 5063 2876 18982 13919 Avantoe 251 1617 10672 10421 Irit 180 1195 7887 7707 Spirit Weed 213 1912 12619 12406 Toadflax 1064 2347 15490 14426 Ranarr Weed 30500 7668 50609 20109 Harralander 45 749 4943 4898 Tarromin 9 196 1294 1284 Marrentill 8 200 1320 1312 Guam Leaf 16 455 3003 2987 Clearly, the balance in this supplier/consumer relationship is tipped in favor of the farmers. Herb farmers can make incredible profits at all levels, provided someone will actually buy the herbs. But where does that leave the herblorist? Sadly, not very well off. In fact, as of this writing there are three profitable potions. Two require you to gather the 2nd ingredient at a respawn point. Relicyms Balm and Antipoison++ both require you to stand and gather slowly-spawning items at no cash cost but at great time cost. Antipoison+ is currently profitable due to the collapse of yew root prices (which is due to the practice of buying tree seeds for the power-leveling of farming). And this assumes that you will find a buyer for those pots. Relicyms Balm can be bought from Uglug Nar for 200, so good luck selling yours for anything more. Antipoison++ is heavily traded and speculated; the 30-day chart resembles a roller coaster. To my knowledge, Antipoison+ is thinly traded. As for the rest, they are money-losers. If making potions is clearly not profitable, then how does one train herblore to a high level in a reasonable amount of time and without burning money? Personally, Ive given up on making potions entirely. There is no point unless you plan to use them yourself. The G.E. prices for pots do not cover the cost of materials. I cannot decide whether there is no selling interest at these prices or rather that people just dont use potions anymore. Are potions underused because of ignorance by the general population, are they made obsolete by newer equipment or are they simply not worth the meager prices levels set by the G.E.? Or are the prices simply held low because of a glut of potions (way too many sellers, not enough buyers)? I am undecided. My current method of training herblore consists of buying grimy herbs on the G.E., cleaning them and selling them back. With careful selection, I find that I am able to make about 100gp per herb. With an average rate of 3000 herbs per hour (50 per minute), I am making variable xp up to about 44K xp per hour and a fairly constant 300,000gp per hour. And I produce nothing in doing so. You could say I refine a raw material, I guess. Using this method of simply cleaning herbs, you could go from level 3 to level 33 in about an hour and lose no money, assuming you cleaned the highest level herb possible all the way. Another hour would get you over level 46. And you would be profiting all the way if you timed your buy/sell points correctly. To reach level 99 herblore, assuming you always cleaned the highest herb possible, you would have to clean over 880,000 herbs. At 3000 per hour, that comes to about 296 hours. Why then, should anyone bother with making potions, except for personal use? Clearly you can make more money just cleaning the herbs. I have not yet figured out why anyone is willing to buy clean herbs at a premium, but I have had no problem in selling any back so far. But I do believe other people are also exploiting this, as evidenced by torstol prices. At level 75 herblore, you gain the ability to clean torstol. It is the highest cleanable herb, and it becomes available as a training method at roughly 9% through the experience points table. And if we check the G.E., we can see the evidence: grimy torstol fetches 300gp more than clean torstol. Torstol is more valuable in its grimy state. Cleaning torstol is a bona fide money loser. People will take a 300gp loss for a 15 xp gain, when they could make 100gp by settling for 1.2xp less per herb with dwarf weed. Thats 3600xp less an hour with dwarf weed, but a 300,000 gp gain rather than a 900,000 gp loss. While this presents a workaround for training herblore without going broke, it does not address the core problem. Why are potion values stuck at a level that makes herblore a money sink? Would raising the G.E. floors for potions fix things, or merely cause herb and 2nd ingredient prices to [bleep]e in response? Are the G.E. prices for potions truly out of whack, or is there just no demand for these anymore at any price? I do not have the answers. In a few weeks, I will not care, as I will be donning my herblore skillcape soon. But at some point, Jagex will have to step in and take some steps to repair this broken skill.

:thumbup: While there are certain cultures where men wear skirts, there are also many where it is a faux pas or worse. If they had named it the Dragon Kilt, I might agree with you. But they didn't. It's called a Dragon Skirt and is worthy of scorn on any manly man.

Enter the north side of the last room instead of the south side. You're welcome.

The KGP ID card is a leftover from the Cold War quest and is not properly a new item. ref: http://www.tip.it/runescape/index.php?rs2item_id=6679

Eh, penguin cuteness has had its 15 minutes of fame. :roll: Am I to assume certain NPCs were never dropping challenge scrolls when they should have been?

Level 92 is 6,517,253 XP, so you would be passing up a bonus on 6,517,253 - 1,798,808 = 4,718,445 XP. Personally, I'd take any bonus I could get. ref: Tip It XP table

The last 10 songs in the iTunes shuffle (since I am working and not playing at present): Steve Winwood - Wake Me Up On Judgment Day Steve Forbert - Hope, Faith and Love Van Morrison - Cleaning Windows Herbert Von Karajan; Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra - Offenbach: Orpheus in the Underworld - Cancan Big Country - I Walk the Hill We Are Smug - The Pressure Electric Light Orchestra - Daybreaker Denis Leary - [wagon] Prince - Undisputed (The Moneyopolis Mix) Talking Heads - Take Me to the River

And generalizing as well. :thumbup:

The last five songs in the iTunes shuffle: Collective Soul - Skin Close Lobsters - Foxheads Pianosaurus - Thriftshoppin' XTC - Stupidly Happy Herb Alpert - Rotation

The last five songs in the iTunes shuffle: The Police - ?megaman Norman Greenbaum - Spirit in the Sky Paul McCartney & Wings - Picasso's Last Words XTC - Your Dictionary The Smithereens - Cut Flowers

Fill the beacons the first time through walking, then dip in the Ooglog pool and make another trip, lighting them all. That's how I did it without using any familiars.

The last five songs in the iTunes shuffle: The Jimi Hendrix Experience - Are You Experienced? Talking Heads - The Big Country J. Geils Band - Rage in the Cage Nomo - Invisible Cities The Frantics - Ti Kwan Leep / Boot to the Head

I always preferred using the cabbage port to the yews south of Falador. I would run over to Rimmington's yews from there. But I had 99 wc when I was doing evil trees, YMMV. Lots of people prefer the maples at Seers'.

Not true for battlestaves; they reset every day at 00:00 GMT regardless of what time you bought the day before. Furthermore, you don't have to log out / back in to get them to reset. I go to Zaff's at a different time every day, sometimes right at 00:00 GMT, sometimes later. They are always reset after 00:00 GMT, regardless of when I bought the day before (as long as I buy the maximum amount).

The last five songs in the iTunes shuffle: Kate Bush - Rubberband Girl John Lee Hooker - Boom Boom Boom George Thorogood & The Destroyers - Gear Jammer Van Morrison - Real Real Gone Death Cab For Cutie - For What Reason

The last five songs in the iTunes shuffle: The Dukes of Stratosphear - Braniac's Daughter XTC - The Ugly Underneath Indigo Girls - Galileo The Amazing Rhythm Aces - Third Rate Romance Sting - Brand New Day

When the Evil Tree is in that spot just north of the Varrock castle, the roots sometimes pop up near the G.E. spirit tree.

The last five songs in the iTunes shuffle: Big Audio Dynamite - Sudden Impact Eurythmics - When Tomorrow Comes The Clash - Know Your Rights The Church - Ride Into the Sunset Rihanna - Umbrella

The last five songs in the iTunes shuffle: The Benjy Davis Project - Whose God? Bruce Springsteen - Open All Night Jeff Lynne - Doin' That Crazy Thing John Lennon - Jealous Guy Shona Laing - Highway Warriors