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I got lvl 93 cooking when i cooked a chicken at HAM hideout. That was a weird experience. Not so much a weird place but weird level at weird thing.

A bit offtopic but.. That site actually made me happy that RS has very strict (to a point of ridicule at times) censor. Look at what they say. Every post is competing with the last to be more obscene. Yea, I don't claim to be Miss Perfect who only speaks like an angel, but I strongly disagree with the use of that kind of language on public forums, chats etc. It's just plain wrong. For me, those people looked mostly stupid because of the language they use *tsk-tsk*. Anyway, to comparing RuneScape and WoW - I'd like to say there is no universal answer. Everyone decides it on their own and it would be really rude to push your opinion on someone else. I enjoy RuneScape for now, they prefer WoW. So? What's the big deal. Matter of taste really. Mommy obviously has never told most of us that pushing your own opinion down other peoples throats isn't very nice. Specially when there's really no need for this kind of ridiculous arguments.

Most of them, yes. But there are those who take this VERY seriously. And that's truly alarming. Considering mental health and all that. I am very serious btw. No jokes.

Please don't hit me but... I'd like to see an item database resembling to RuneHq. That's the only reason, I still use RuneHq at times. And don't hit me if someone else has said it already. I'm just answering the poll as to why I picked "other". *cookies to all* :thumbsup:

*raises hand* I join your creeped out ranks. Sometimes it can be truly terrifying if your friends do this. People who have seemed totally sane before. And suddenly they go off and.. wait I'm not talking about hehe lol let's get married. No, they mean it. Pixels happily ever after...*spooked*

Will you? Will you all really accept your death? We are all too young to know the first thing about life, even less death. None of us are ready, none of us know what's it about, how, why... You can say whatever you may, but if you should be dying tomorrow, you won't be ready. There is no way for that. You will never be ready to die unless you commit suicide in a mentally clear state. And that, my friends, is a rare sight.

I am afraid of the dying process, although I don't know why, since I have almost died twice, been through the so called tunnels and all that. No tunnels btw and dying is actually rather nice if you don't try the violent version. I don't know hows that. Not afraid of death itself though. I don't care what comes after, if anything. Sometimes I even wish it was nothing. Forever long rest without my mind to take part in it or anything really. I don't know if I would die for someone else. For my child, probably I would. I think most moms would. Evolution has made mothers extremely protective because natural way of life is still that kids live longer. That was the short version, I could write you 20 paragraphs of this but I doubt that anyone reads my post as it is now so no point really. Yeshh, existence or nonexistence. The forever lasting question of a young mind.

22. Not a granny yet sadly. I am a mom though. I'm sure grandkids will be alot more fun because you can smooch them and when they start whining you shove them back to their parents and you can think oh I have such lovely grandkids, never a problem with them... sigh.. well, another 20 years until that comes though. I hope. Well okay, realisticly I hope it's going to be more than 12 years, my kid is 4 atm.

I confess, I am not really that nice. I really would like to sometimes just say STFU and not feel sorry. I don't though :cry:

Hmm my calculations say about 160 days (higher end). Can't really backtrace on spent time. It actually amazed me. Cool.

Good point. I'll ask the next one who does that and report here. Would be great if you guys asked them too. Maybe we can figure out why exactly do they do this and then come up with the best possible solution to the problem. Some of the guys are happy when you say something like "nah, you're not bad, your level is quite good". But for those who keep going no matter what you say, I'd like to know why. And I'd like to know if I can help them even a little bit and if so then how. Or if not then how not to be the target of this kind of behavior. I have courtesy hard-coded in me, so I definately won't say anything bad to them or leave or whatever. Being silent is unpolite enough hehe. Mom raised me wrong? :P Something else I was thinking about: am I really the only one out there who doesn't care a least bit about other peoples levels? I mean, I almost never look them up. I sometimes look my friends up to see what they've been up to and how they are doing but strangers.. that has to be a very interesting looking stranger for me to look him/her up. Anyway, I'm going back to thieving, hoping not to get another one of these guys. Or those who try to convince me with all costs that I really have to go to plunder lol. I do understand they want to help me. At least some of them do. Some just like to think I'm stupid. But yeah, 20 guys with the same suggestion in a day is a tad too much :)

Offtopic: Woot, got 96 thief hehe. Ontopic: Actually come to think of it (thinking with an extremely tired brain), I guess my current approach is the best there is. I compliment them and all but if they keep ranting, I stop replying. Weird though, this is the only thing that bothers me ingame. Really. People calling me noob is more funny than annoying or whatever. But these people just puzzle me and make me feel bad that I'm making them feel bad somehow. Okay off to bed, this thinking thing isn't working anymore.

Any ideas on how to make it stop? :anxious:

Yes, you are probably right on that. I did honestly wonder why people want to know each others levels so badly. I really did think for a long time that it was just an excuse to start the conversation but seems it isn't. Anyway, in real life it's all the same. Who has the bigger one. Who has the hardest life. Who is richer. Etc. The list could go on forever. And it all comes down to "who's da man!". Evolutionary thing in a way. "Argh baby, I have a hairier chest than him, take me!". Since society and human behavior has gone through serious development, the ways of expressing that have done that also. What I was wondering about, wasn't particularly that constant competition but to my logic, if you lose that mini-battle, then why draw attention to it? Why even say you have lower level if you're not even asked? Why beat yourself to death if the other side is telling you that you are good? Do they honestly believe that if they don't act that way then we might make fun of their levels? It is truly hard to get into teenage male mind, considering I have never been one. But I really do try :P

Well yes, I have tried the optimistic behavior. I really do believe that for example 50 cooking can be quite the achievement. It's all subjective. What's good to me can be lousy to someone else etc. The point was more about the players who keep on going even after I compliment them. I actually timed one of those conversations. The guy put himself down for 42 minutes! What a dedication of proving to me he is worthless. And the funny thing is, I don't buy it hehe. It is actually really sad. To think where this game has gone. It's like eating disorders in real life if you know what I mean. Maybe they do have some sort of a problem with self esteem. Put this in your head: You are all good in your own way. We all rock!!

Hello. I would like to address the issue of lowering yourself today. I have been thieving for quite a while now and I have noticed I am reluctant to say my level when someone asks (for reference - it's almost 96 now). Since I thieve in Burthorpe (yes, I know plunder is faster), I get alot of curious newbies and other people asking me all kinds of questions. I do not mind the questions and such but what I do mind is.. Let me put it in an example: X (random player): What's your thieving level? (Usually wuts yr thvin lvl) Me: 95 X: I'm only 56 (anywhere from 50-70 usually) Me: That's not bad X: Yes it is. I'm such a noob. You're so good. Lately, this is where the conversation ends. Now, if you still don't see the problem, I'll point it out - there is absolutely no reason to constantly compare yourself with others and put yourself down. It is actually embarrasing to the high level (mostly, though there are those who enjoy it), besides it leaves a lousy impression of you. 56, 72, 37 or whatever level you have is not bad. You have worked to get that far and take pride in that. I do not mean you should be all about omg I'm so good you suck but the other extremity isn't good either. For those who say I hang out in the wrong place (Burthorpe), I have 5 99s. I got my first a long time ago, but four last ones quite lately. For me, it has been a subtle transformation, I don't consider myself "big". Anyway, while I was fishing/woodcutting/firemaking/cooking, it's all the same. Everywhere, every time. Those people make me answer "12" to their question about my levels. Which raises a theory that maybe that's why high levels don't say their levels? Besides the fact that they get asked alot/are stuck up/aren't paying attention/don't bother to answer. I have had a conversation about this with few other high levels who all say they have the same problem. Concluding: do not put yourself down for nothing. You will only humiliate yourself, embarrass the person you are talking to and making no point really. Be proud of what you are, both ingame and out. Live and let live. Thanks to those who actually bothered to read more than the first and last sentence lol. I know I can be prolonged in my points.

I may be wrong but this seems to be going in the direction of: "either I'm polite and nice or I try to grab money and get skills". It may be the purpose of this to bring extremes out but for me, things are not that black and white. I consider myself a polite person (has to do with upbringing), I could never be rude to a person I don't even know for no reason at all. Maybe it's all about my mom who taught me the very needed common courtesy and told me that it has one of the highest priorities in life. I do not try to "get" something with it and also I don't think I'm like mother Teresa - all good and serene. It's just part of who I am. So yes, I value the second choice highly. BUT. Always the dreaded but part. I do play this game for myself. For me, it is about skills. Money is a necessity in my eyes - I do not care for party hats (yes, it's nice if someone has it and all that - I can understand the wish for bling. After all, I have a fury I don't really need, all for the bling lol). But skills. Aah. Well it's a personal win to get a 99. I do not do this for anyone else. I'm actually rather worried about it because if I continue long enough, I can't escape being known and that is what horrifies me (think of all the negative attention..). But that's a different subject. Point being - I love skilling to prove myself that I can do it. I would never even consider going against the rules - not because I'm awfully lawful but because it would so ruin the fun for myself and for others. I do cross the road in wrong places quite often in real life lol. Got blabbering. Anyway flat out the point is - it's not like 1) omg I'm all about money/skills and to hell with politeness 2) omg I'm so nice, I could not care less about money/skills No. It's all about finding that perfect balance that lets you have fun (you do play this game for yourself not for someone else) and on the same time respect others who are doing the same. No matter what their personal goals are - party hats, 1 mil buckets (yea, my friend is goaling for that), dragon chain, 99 strength... etc etc. That is my more or less humble opinion :roll:

Really offtopic: Rebdragon - I bow to thee. I hope you don't mind being in my siggy. If you do, let me know.

Getting 4 99s in one event. Preparing for it seemed to never end. Finally I did it - fished a shrimp, cut a log, lit the log and cooked the shrimp - getting 99 every action. I think I can't beat that feeling anymore lol. Second would be from the very start of my account when I was f2p and only mined. Got 40 mining and that truly rocked! :wink:

People who are arrogant enough to start dictating to me about how I should raise my skills - for example, I'm picking wall safes atm to get thief 99 (I won't start to justify it here but yes, I know about plunder) so I get alot of omg why are you wasting time here and so on and so forth. One of the few things that really annoy me. The second is again about wall safes - there are four safes here everyone! Why choose the one I am picking when there are free safes?! I know I can outpick anyone who tries but slowly the point itself has become really irritating. That irritation took about 50 of those guys and a month of picking lol. So I guess I don't tick off easily.

1. What do you consider to be a "top" player these days? It's hard to tell. I have 5 99s thus I'm beginning to lose track on high and low since I don't consider myself very high. Might be because I see higher people all the time heheh. 2. For high level players: Do you get recognized by many players due to your level? Not because they recognize your cape, but your name? Nobody knows me. If I don't wear any of my capes (which I often don't) then nobody even notices me. Which can be a good thing come to think of it:P Those who look me up are.. well lately there's this new trend of calling people higher than yourself noobs. So I'm noob alot. O well, their problem not mine. 3. For those with level 99 stats: When people ask you to do the emote, do you find it annoying? A compliment? It's definately a compliment. Imho, if you find it so annoying, don't wear the cape. That helps lol. If you get a 99 and wear a cape then in my eyes it's kind of a responsibility to show your emote if you are asked nicely. I mean you are the role model in a way and if you were the one asking for emote would you like to be shouted at and humiliated only because you really really like the agility emote (just an example) and want to see it but don't have a cape yourself? Or you have never seen slayer emote. Whatever the reason is, I think if you wear the cape, then show the emote if asked. On the other hand, don't get cocky with it. Vanity and arrogance aren't nice either. I am relatively new to this game, started in February 2006 so I don't know much about how the community used to be. I do remember however that when I got my first 99 (which was fletching) in the end of May 2006 - people were much more friendly and actually thought it's awesome. Now you're a noob and "oh fletching is soo easy" and "cooking is soo easy" and "range/mage/whatever is soo easy". Sigh. So yes, times they are changing.

All RuneScape money is a property of Jagex. Selling it is basically thieving because you sell something that isn't yours to sell in the first place. Legally it doesn't matter that it's not physical property. So to start off, however you approach this, it's a crime, not an ethical issue as some referred. I do not know any sure facts about RuneScape sweatshops. However I am familiar with the conditions in some large factories in China. Such as WallMart ones. I won't go deeper into this since it is not the issue at the moment, the point is that if there really is such a thing then it is quite possible that the conditions there are completely below any human standard. But that as I said, I do not know, thus can not prove. I am just saying there's a good possibility of it being so. The thing with China is that most of you, being americans, can not imagine a life like that. I'm not saying it's all bad. Definately not. But it's surely a very different world. So it's really not appropriate to calculate their wages to dollars and think in the American box. That kind of approach will lead you way off the track. That does not only count for China but for most of the world. So if you do not know the background and can't calculate that in, then it's pointless to start guessing. For goosey - just for future reference: these programs are macros not micros. Micro means very very little. The term macro became more known with the coming of roguelike games where macro meant a shortcut for long commands. As for this particular skiller. Yes, I am sure it's sad and makes one think, but no matter if he told the truth or lied - his text was perfect grounds for reporting him. What is most important however - we all love this game and play it for fun. One thing is rules - the other is law. We all have emotions and passion and all that but this is just a game. But laws are laws. They are there for a reason. I agree that discussing these things can be really enlightening and so on, but in my eyes, the course of action (not talk) would be 100% sure before even getting into discussing the ethics or morality and all that. Maybe I came off rather harsh - if anyone feels offended or angry, then don't. Now I'm gonna go play and have fun. Have a good playing experience!:)

99 fletch <- first 99 in last may 99 woodcutting 99 firemaking 99 cooking 99 fishing These because it was a very cool event to get these 4 in one row. I thought of getting woodcutting 99 when this idea stroke me. So I got all four heheh.

Rather offtopic but maybe you should think in the lines of "oh this game is so much fun" rather than "omg I need to be like Zezima/Yogo/anyone high to be good in this game"? I mean in the end of the day stats really don't matter. I play this game because it offers fun and builds self esteem by those little goals I set for myself. I definately don't want to become known ingame. Gosh, that would be like... awful. Think about how terrifying it is to play for those real top-notch players. Eek. Anyway, trust me, this game is for you and for you only. Don't let them get to you. As long as you are happy. Hey, this goes ontopic too! :P So all of you "grannys and grandpas" out there - the same goes to you. We all rock. Even if all your stats are brand new out of the oven - you rock!

Hello. I am 21, 22 very soon. I get the "nolifer grandma" comment alot. It doesn't bother me too much since I know I like computer games and that's all that matters really. I don't think there's a certain age range for computer games. It's like ice cream - my granny loves ice cream very much but it's considered to be a kids dessert. So because she is 70, she wouldn't be morally allowed to eat it? Oh well, you catch my drift. It's just ridiculous to put people and activities in categories. Another thought though - maybe these 14-year olds (in general, not anyone in particular) feel threatened by us, adults, in this game? Though it's contradictory with the way they have absolutely no respect towards anyone, not even to people twice their age. Oh well, I'll shut up before I'll go into that bubbly verbal spree :oops: