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I agree with this, but at least Dungeoneering has an element of "fun" to it which still makes it do-able after you get a reward, even if it is just for some lulz with your friends. Are you mad? Since when is grinding fun? If I wanted a mind numbing grind, I'd go play Lineage2. The main thing is, in L2 the grind starts to pay off later on. In dungeoneering, you just grind wasting your time. The only thing you actually get is total levels. Nothing else. And there's NO fun involved. P.S. If you are wondering, I was doing C6 solo most of the time, however I understood that this way I will be doomed to stay < 30 dungeoneering forever. Then I just done C1, quit C2, next floor C1, quit C2, next floor C1, etc and I'm already lvl 29. This skill is awful tbh... I shall start by saying that you should not state things like they are fact. If you had not done that, along with the entire second part of your post, the following would not have happened: 1st off, you do not need to grind it. You CAN grind it, but then you're doing it wrong. Fun isn't hard to find in this. 2nd, you just said "mind numbing grind" and "I'd go play *something here*" with the context of Dungeoneering as the main example. YOU ARE PLAYING F***ING RUNESCAPE. The caps are necessary to convey my message to you. Dungeoneering is far less of a grind then 80% of the entire game. 3rd: You get rewards along with those total levels. The Arcane Stream Necklace is the best thing Mage's have gotten since the Staff of Light. Possibly the best thing they have ever gotten. There is also the Chaotic Melee weapons that will be staples for Slayer and Boss Hunting in the next few months. Now, a special highlight goes to the bolded, and it is this: You are a Moron and you are doing it wrong. or did the 50% and 45% exp deductions not tip you off? ALWAYS play C6. If you need a floor lower then 28, find a team on the forums and rush the floors. 5:5 teams are not hard to find. You can even make one yourself. If you need 28 or higher, find or make a 5:5 Large team. The exp really speeds up when you hit the Abandoned 2 section. Just power through and will hit it easily. You'll soon hit 69 and start making 50k exp/hr, which is only slightly lower then the exp you can get at 99 fishing when you do it at Shilo. And yes, the size 7 bolded sentence calling him a moron is needed. I want the message to get through nice and clear. Welcome to my "Oh. My. GOD!" button. Replace the 'moron' with 'retired' and the sentence will be correct. Actually, most xp I have gotten through ToG, so... yeah. Anyway, the 50% deductions (game forces me to C2, but I quit it without starting, since C2+ it's a waste of time) still make it easier to get more xp in the same timeframe then doing c6... SOMEHOW. Plus, SOLO making up the armor (food/pouches) that are REQUIRED to kill the c6 boss take too much time and without them - all you can do is die. Dying easily takes away large amounts of xp. @Mecakoto: You are completely correct, since whenever I go to daemonheim I find 2 players at most in the whole area. That's why C1 is better. C6 solo takes just too much time. (take note, on a p2p world)

I agree with this, but at least Dungeoneering has an element of "fun" to it which still makes it do-able after you get a reward, even if it is just for some lulz with your friends. Are you mad? Since when is grinding fun? If I wanted a mind numbing grind, I'd go play Lineage2. The main thing is, in L2 the grind starts to pay off later on. In dungeoneering, you just grind wasting your time. The only thing you actually get is total levels. Nothing else. And there's NO fun involved. P.S. If you are wondering, I was doing C6 solo most of the time, however I understood that this way I will be doomed to stay < 30 dungeoneering forever. Then I just done C1, quit C2, next floor C1, quit C2, next floor C1, etc and I'm already lvl 29. This skill is awful tbh...

Current results clearly show that IM (Instant Messaging) services (which are also bundled with Voice/Video Chat capabilities) busted IRC. Oh, and also social networks. I was an occasional irc user, now I use it quite rarely (I voted for rarely). IRC still has it's uses, you see.

About the first article - the only people that think they have the right to shout are those who don't like something. If you like a thing, you will not spawn tens of threads to say the same thing over and over, you would just PLAY it (of course, some care to tell the developers that they like it). And unfortunately, someone has to deal with the troublemakers and that's why their demands are partially or fully fulfilled. It's not like you or me or someone else can change it or do it better: it was always like this and the faster you get rid of troublemakers, the better. About the second article - I couldn't agree more and that's exactly why I am retired. Since now I know how much my time is worth, I'd rather get paid for doing something interesting than waste both time and money to grind. Now I login occasionally, perhaps to do the circus (since ToG's requirements (I can earn 150k xp only in three weeks) are absurdly high), perhaps to play a minigame an activity. I just do what I find fun and that is exactly 'fun'. Unfortunately at my skill level distribution there's only grind left. And about runecrafting - we already had a skill which involves continuous running in circles to gain xp, so it could have been designed better. Currently, there's no reason to train it besides the quest requirements. Also, if someone is willing to argue that it is a good moneymaker, the answer is simple and undeniable by any means: if you would put all the time you would spend on rc to combat, you would gain tens of millions with combat instead of hundreds of thousands with rc.

Twice a year is too much IMHO. I would think that either once a year or (even better) before a new skill is released (that would roughly equal to once/1,5-3y). What would be better than Bonus XP weekends would be the Restricted XP weekdays, which would slowly[ (due to a mistake on Jagex part, fastly) degrade your XP gain from 1.0x to 0.1x (no effect on quests and some activities) over time.

Since 04:01 you get 1.5x. To put it blunt, that's marginally higher than 1.1x. I could say that everyone who was stupid enough to trust the graph and was going to train prayer lost a big deal. I voted that it was poorly done. No activities give bonus XP, but Circus and Pyramid Plunder does. The graph provided by authors was, in fact, wrong, and they decided to do nothing about it. Also, the fact that it was members-only, means it should have at least matched the description, but nooo... The quality of updates/releases is going down? What is more, the over-hyped release attracted even retired people (like me), just to show that the game, despite over 2x xp (even though you could enjoy that for a few hours max) is still incredibly boring when it comes to training skills. After training agility, magic and crafting a little bit, I decided to act like everyone else and train the fully afk-able (hence liked and boasted about by the everyday 'scaper) skill: slayer (constitution, attack, defense & strength included). Since it's fully afkable, it wasn't that awful to spend the multiplier on. P.S. I still haven't reached the 5-hour mark. Guess I just can't be bothered to play RS anymore.

Cossacking is still unavailable, so only old (pre-rs2?), but not permabanned accounts were made available. Shame on Jagex, I've even sent them several customer support queries stating that they can clear the banned char so I could take the name... ffs...

Autotyping: there are people that manage to hide their autotyping, and tbh I have nothing against them. However, the GE autotypers are PROUD to use macros. They don't even care to hide the fact that they ALWAYS manage to make the same spelling mistake, ALWAYS manage to type 10 different ads in the same order, ALWAYS using same colors each time a specific ad is typed. I would support banning such proud autoers, but, as we all know, mods don't have enough time for this, so they MIGHT (just MIGHT, which means rarely) ban an innocent player, who by luck is a community [bleep] whiner type. That will bring up the useless debate about "OMG mods always ban innocent people and now we have 50 times more autoers and no fair players!". Back to the point, I really think that the "proud" autoers deserve a permanent mute. At least every such autotyper above level 60. About the "hidden ads", I understand it as a COMPARISON between the gameplay/services offered. And I definitely agree that keeping them is a good idea, plus, it isn't wasting your time unless you are interested in the differences; unlike the lengthy video ads (actually, I wasn't playing by that time, so my comment may not reflect the actual experience).

FoG, since in P2P version you have a chance to win only if you are super-geared lvl 120+. Also, I like the fact you can make money (play in F2P or even being F2P, but exchange tokens when you are P2P) off it.

Erm... gratz on your potential mute anyways? and boo you for making people cry. Another misguided player... Half of the RuneScape players don't strive for player-interaction, but that doesn't mean you must ignore them just because they don't talk much. And you are thinking that everyone who plays runescape is taking random statements seriously and sensitively. That's exactly what large clans and people with full friend lists want you to think. However, my short test proved those illusions wrong. Not everyone in RS is acting as a little kid taking random words said by total strangers to heart. And about muting, potential is the keyword. I have never been muted and wont ever be.

The first article encouraged me to log on to f2p and throw some major insults (the ones that people are really sensitive about - racial, gender and age related) at random people. Nice work, Forsakenmage, I thought, you made me remember it's possible to kill people without leaving a trace. However, it was a total disappointment. Either RS players don't know english nowadays or all of them play with public chat off. Noone even noticed major insults thrown straight in their face. And basically that means the article was written without looking at the current situation. We have roughly a 50/50 situation, where 50% are the occasional RS players who always played RS because of it's strong (much better than in other MMOs) solo gameplay element. In solo games, if someone tells you something along the lines "**** *******? ****** ******* ********* ****** ****!", you don't really care about that. Hence such people don't take EVERY word, that a random PC (player controlled character in this context) says, personally. Even if that's said directly at them. However, the other 50% love teamplay (the aspect in which RuneScape is severely weak up to this very day), also like player interaction, chatting, making friends on-line, etc. They seem to CARE about what others say ALWAYS, even when they SHOULDN'T. Honestly, I don't give a [censored by author] about them, because it's better if a game teaches them not to listen to everything random strangers say (think insults, scamming, false accusations etc).

Yeah, I also had to do that. Just not for the poll, but this reply. 1500-2000, 1781.

About the second article, I agree with it. It's your decision, fun or hard work. However, you forgot that most people do not understand that GP is the ultimate goal in this game, that is if you have GP you can train skills fast. Instead of making GP (or having fun in minigames) these people tend to use efficient (fool's theory) methods to earn XP in skills. That's why they achieve all 60s way after a player that focuses on GP has 99 woodcutting, magic, ranged and hunter, while keeping other skills fairly high. I know, many people would consider me rich, although all I do is log in once a week to get free load of instant XP from circus and ToG (however, due to tog xp gain requirements I can do it only once per 3 weeks). Occasionally, like once per 6 weeks, I alch a few hundred air b staves, take a d axe, go to miscleannia, cut the maples back to 100% and top up the investment back to 7,5m, while stashing the leftover cash to the bank. I keep thinking that it's been over 3 months since I last collected produced items, but I really CBA to do that. I bought bgs just before it was expected to crash (it didn't.), and just by having it (I also kept lending it while it was still possible, when items had floor values, but I don't want to include that) I already earned over 6m. Money in this game comes with 0 effort, so it's really only the player's decision to be poor or to be rich.

Time Played: 58 days 10 hours 27717 xp / hour. I shouldn't have trained agility, then I'd have a much higher xp ratio.

contact is in lumby, house with the dungeon icon

Best of luck everyone! Should we include spaces? Oh, this has been answered already. No.

57 days, 2 hours. Luckily I'm quitting now.

So here's the problem. After I turn on my laptop and I don't move the mouse for a minute or two, it hibernates self. That hibernation takes like 2x time to complete than a normal one, so if I was in another room and came back, it always wastes my time. Is there a way to disable it (bear in mind, there's nothing like this set under power settings).

Pfft. Luckily I'm still boycotting quests, so didn't waste my time on this noob "master" (lol? bad joke.) quest. EDIT: once it was released it wasn't in Grandmaster category. Was it changed or just people are talking about something they know nothing about? I looked it up, it's NOT a grandmaster quest. In game if you sort quests by difficulty it is under Grand Master Indeed. However, that doesn't help jagex: http://www.runescape.com/kbase/guid/master_quests Either the game client or the kbase fails. I'd bet on the client.

Pfft. Luckily I'm still boycotting quests, so didn't waste my time on this noob "master" (lol? bad joke.) quest. EDIT: once it was released it wasn't in Grandmaster category. Was it changed or just people are talking about something they know nothing about? I looked it up, it's NOT a grandmaster quest.

Yes, the GE and trade limits really made RS a lot like a single player game. Money sinks do not fix inflation, they are more like a temporary solution. Also, the people who have billions just buy the skill (even summoning) and then turn back to warped money making methods (76king). Everyone who doesn't manage to finish training the money sinking skill before the "buyers" massively turn back to moneymaking, do get to enjoy the anti-inflation measures temporarily. Then the inflation gets back and the poorest people are still poor and with extra low money_sink_skill level, while billionaires who actually cause prices to go up buying stuff for max just because they can are still rich[er] and have maxed/high money_sink_skill level. Noone wins.

Lame quest requirements. My motivation to train agility is finally killed (There's still an ancient thread "Race to 99 agility", created by me here on TIF). I will never train it again, since there is no point (the clothes are just a bank space waster). They should have had at least 80 agility req for this quest and higher for following quests... Gonna do it and see what's the reward. Sorry, I'm still boycotting quests + there's no way to make junk now, so I'll just ignore this quest.

Up... And I'll also would like some f2p training advice. Any higher-leveled monsters (past lvl 12) are deadly due to my 1 defense. Any high-hp & low lvl monster suggestions?

It is possible: merch + PvP (yes still...), but D Pick will never keep on the 32m line without constant merching (as in not allowing to crash more that 2m at once). And once they will (yes, they will) fail at that, the next time D Pick crashes, they wont be able to hold it anymore. However, I do not know how strong and organized the merchers are to make sure the price will not fluctuate for an extended amount of time. Oh and if they wont try to keep it up for an extended amount of time... It will hit 10m before you could see it. And from 10m there's only one way to go: down (this statement is completely true if there is no inflation at all; if there is a high inflation, the price may even rise, but not more than other items of the same rarity and or price). Except for little merching now and then.

Both Addy and unenchanted diamond bolts are unbuyable for a long time now. I thought everyone knows that.