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OMG! Insane new theory - dragon dragons!!! i think that would be dragonkin it self we would fight(or clones) Well if you see mithril dragons as dragons infused or plated with the metal mithril, then logically you could infuse a dragon with the metal Dragon, so that it would be a dragon dragon, and still not be a Dragonkin. Unless Dragonkin produce the metal Dragon themselves, then you have a chance the dragon dragon will be a bit like the Dragonkin themselves. Oh and btw, the whole 'z0mgbbq dr4gon dragonz!' suggestion has been made before ;). [/hide] as far as i know it was the mahjarrat(the zaros army(i been to long away from runescape)) that got dragon weapons and Armour to runescape through a portal from another dimension ;) so dragonkin didn't know of dragon equipment. Well we aren't sure about who created the dragon weapons. Some evidence says the Dragonkin made it, some npc's say the Necrosyrtes made it (note that Necrosyrte is a genus of vultures, and the Dragonkin kinda resemble vultures). And yes, there are clues too pointing towards the Mahjarrat, although I think there are but a few of those. What NPCs say that? I'll get chat screenies and post them. Maybe you really DO deserve the title Tip.it historian... Maybe It is Fairy Aeryka who flies around in Zanaris who tells players about how the Necrosyrtes discovered/used the Dragon metal and weapons. She can be found in the wheat field at the crop circle to Puro Puro.

Dang, I can acctualy see it being a road through a forest. :lol: Cant wait to find out if its just artwork or if its in the quest. Hmm, now you mention it, yes it does look like a road through a forest =D>

[hide=quote train] oh right, someone with 45 hp easily kills a lvl 47 rev? and some guy telling him about he going to kbd with a dragonfire shield and his spawn point was cammy? 1. he is pure+the other guy types uber fast 2. he fails 3. he is teh epic phail I agree with you, that whole story is a huge steaming load of fertilizer! He used the d long on the thing...? How could he tell how much HP it had? And how the D long would just spawn there in his feet and be un-wearable? At 45 hp I bet he was too weak to wield it... Anyway I bet its a hoax, if not at least this part of the story is. I am at the legends guild a lot recharging my skills necklace, i'm sure I would have seen something. I am also going by the moss giants all the time so I also would have seen the 'running ghost' by now. Nice try but... uberphailatrism. [/hide] I don't know what to make of it... It could be a joke, a glitch or a teaser. One thing to note though, about that dragon longs hurt it or whatever: there are several signs (from BTS too) that the Dragonkin are involved with the Grandmaster Quest, and one dragon in the Postbag said that 'The very weapons that make you strong bring Kin's return ever closer'. So the dragon weapons may have a powerlink with the Dragonkin... :?

I haven't found the proof yet, but I remember reading it somewhere. In the meantime, notice the quotation marks around "pleasentry, order, and wisdom". None can be seen at the other god articles (as far as I've checked).

OMG! Insane new theory - dragon dragons!!! i think that would be dragonkin it self we would fight(or clones) Well if you see mithril dragons as dragons infused or plated with the metal mithril, then logically you could infuse a dragon with the metal Dragon, so that it would be a dragon dragon, and still not be a Dragonkin. Unless Dragonkin produce the metal Dragon themselves, then you have a chance the dragon dragon will be a bit like the Dragonkin themselves. Oh and btw, the whole 'z0mgbbq dr4gon dragonz!' suggestion has been made before ;). [/hide] as far as i know it was the mahjarrat(the zaros army(i been to long away from runescape)) that got dragon weapons and Armour to runescape through a portal from another dimension ;) so dragonkin didn't know of dragon equipment. Well we aren't sure about who created the dragon weapons. Some evidence says the Dragonkin made it, some npc's say the Necrosyrtes made it (note that Necrosyrte is a genus of vultures, and the Dragonkin kinda resemble vultures). And yes, there are clues too pointing towards the Mahjarrat, although I think there are but a few of those.

OMG! Insane new theory - dragon dragons!!! i think that would be dragonkin it self we would fight(or clones) Well if you see mithril dragons as dragons infused or plated with the metal mithril, then logically you could infuse a dragon with the metal Dragon, so that it would be a dragon dragon, and still not be a Dragonkin. Unless Dragonkin produce the metal Dragon themselves, then you have a chance the dragon dragon will be a bit like the Dragonkin themselves. Oh and btw, the whole 'z0mgbbq dr4gon dragonz!' suggestion has been made before ;).

Words cannot describe how wrong these definitions are, not to mention the spelling errors! #-o :wall: -Saradomin = the god of order, not wisdom -Zamorak = god of chaos, not evil -guthix = Balance -armadyl = we don't know, but speculated to be Law -zaros = we don't know, at least not... Chaous or something... -bandos = He is the god of War, and Goblins and ogers are his followers -Marimbo = Patron God of Monkeys, not god of monkeys, there's a difference -Tumeken = I'm not even sure it is the god of the Sun, show some proof please. -Elidnis = Growth & Fertility -Amascut = used to be Rebirth, but now is Destruction -Seren = She is crystal and revered by Elves, but that's not what she represents. -The Kendal isn't even a God, just a man in a suit!! -Fossegrimen = She is just a spirit, not a God! Gods aren't allowed to be on Gielenor. And where did you even get the Trollheim part? 3. Semi gods -Ikov = Is not the Son of Saradomin, he isn't a demigod at all, just a human. -Iban = Proclaimed Son of zamorak, he's just a powerful undead sorcerer -Icthlarim = Demigod of the Dead

true true very true. Thou fact the fist dips down and the stone is round more likely fist is somewhere the stone has been hit down or dropped. But equally all we know the stone and the fist are the same thing Can't remember where I heard it (somewhere on tif, cba to find the quote), but supposedly FoG is the site of a Saradominist camp that had the Stone of Jas in its possession during the Godwars (which in turn, was supposedly for control of this powerful relic). After Guthix stopped the war, he tried and failed to destroy the stone (but in the process he obliterated the camp). Instead, an imprint of the stone's power and some of Guthix's remained; which is the fist itself. If all of that is true then if anything the pattern of the FoG only serves to prove that the stone showed in the cutscene is, in fact, the Stone of Jas. Hmm, I've heard of this theory before, but this is the first time it contained a 'Saradomin camp'. Would make sense though... :-k ... Yes, that explains the numerous Saradomin symbols on the pillars in the Fog cave! I never really figured that one out... And yes, I think the Godwars (partly/mostly) revolved around the Stone of Jas, as the Oracle said: 'The god wars are over...as long as the thing they were fighting over remains hidden'. Some think the Oracle talks about the Godsword here, but I'm not sure... Can't the Saradominist Icyene just destroy it (and maybe secretly make another one)? No, I think the item they were fighting over was much more that a sword, even as powerful as this. You don't mobilise entire races and destroy continents for just one weapon. they fought over something bigger, more powerful. Something which had the power to create (and destroy...) the very elements of this world; magic, life, the Anima Mundi... Hey, maybe Lucien wants the Stone of Jas so that Zamorak can finish off Zaros once and for all! Zamorak lives in constant fear of Zaros, because he isn't gone for real, only banished. Even the mention of his name could give him enough power to break free and chase Zamorak the Betrayer to the end of the Cosmos. What great ideas a topic like this can give me :) .

Wth!? :shock: As you can see, I already made a valuable contribution to this topic, and I'm about to do so again. Watch and learn! ;) That got me doubting my whole dragonkin castle time line! So I took a second look at the Morytania books, and I see that nowhere did it actually say that the queen was the first ruler of Morytania, but it seems fairly likely, since the book screenshots currently up there say that the region, Hallowvale, was named for her. It could be that the city was renamed after her, however. I suppose it doesn't matter really. It would appear at this point that the dragonkin vacated the castle around the 1st or possibly 2nd age, leaving it empty for whoever stumbled upon it. Either the dragonkin left the place a mess and it recovered by the time the area was settled by humans, or the dragonkin never made it a bad place and lived in it with out corrupting the area. There was a succession of various rulers before the queen, an Iycene (that's "iycene".... the capital I looks exactly like an L)according to a passage in the books, took command. At this point, Morytania was a very busy settlement, Burgh de Rott and Mort'ton being bustling towns and centers of commerce. That all changed when Drakan deposed and imprisoned the queen and began corrupting the land. I tried to look up what "Iycene" is, but I couldn't find anything. Near as I can figure it was the name of a tribe or something. *Ahem* The Icyene were a race of winged humanoid creatures, which probably came from the Eastern Lands (I remember reading this somewhere, but that could've been a speculation topic). They were good, and were friendly rulers of Hallowvale. As the age of an Icyene is unknown (we don't even know they die of old age at all, like vampyres) it could be that Queen Efaritay was the kingdom's ruler together with King Ascertes from the beginning till the end. It has been calculated they've ruled for at least some 820 years. When lord Drakan invaded Hallowvale, Efaritay fought him valiantly, until Drakan took Ascertes hostage and forced her into submission. It is unknown what became of them. Queen Efaritay and Safalaan (the leader of the Sanguinesti Myreque) share the same last name, Hallow, and together with his height, unusual blue eyes and weird powerblast-vyrewatch-emergency-mechanism it is speculated he is related to her. Also, there exists a theory of the Vyrewatch being corrupted Icyene, as they're similar in appearance. As said before, Commander Zilyana is an Icyene, and both the Godsword blade and Saradomin Sword were made by them. ... It's my title... :(

.. ... ........ :shock: Aaargh I'm blind!! #-o And you sir, are a freaking genius! =D>

Now I can see that you might interpret this as the Stone of Jas, but there are some things I don't get. Why does he call the Stone 'hornless'? And what are these 'setmates' he is referring to? I think (and with me many others, looking at the replies) that you read this, got an idea and now you present this idea as if it was undenieable truth, the only logical outcome. Let me tell you, it is not. This sentence right here sums it all up nicely: You don't have any proof it's the right colour, now do you? You don't have any proof at all it's the right shape, do you? You don't have any proof at all it has the right look, do you? Well? Do you? To me it looks like a Runecrafting Altar, because it's round like a Runecrafting altar, the same size as an ingame Runecrafting Altar and in a cave like multiple Runecrafting Altars. And that, my friend, was a good point I made with solid proof. [/hide] Oh, right, thats the Ancient page. I agree that it doesn't look very convincing :oops: But there was a thread made by a forum mod on the RSOF where it didn't seem like there were much doubt about the colour of the Stone being crimson. He had other sources than just the Ancient page, but I cant remember them right now. But I thought we knew the Stone was circular? I thought that was kind of a given.... oh well, don't wanna go up against Hippodo :o I have seen enough of your posts to know that you are much more knowledgeable about this than I am :lol: But about the RC altar theory, it doesn't really look like it has a flat top like the other altars. And it looks red/crimson, and most other altars have grey as the main colour. And I don't think a soul altar would be crimson... but you never know. Might be the light that is playing tricks on us :) Well first of all thanks for the compliment :), finally some recognition :lol: . And I apologise if I was a bit harsh the last time. Your first few posts made me think I was talking to a headstrong kind of person, but that doesn't seem to be the case. About the Forum Mod and his arguments, I honestly can't remember one book, text or tome in which the Stone of Jas was described crimson, but that doesn't mean I am right. I've done Meeting History as well, and I too have seen the strange rock floating in the middle of the screen. To me it seems logical that it is the Stone of Jas, looking at the context of the cutscene, but remember that this is still an assumption. Many assumptions are presented as facts, but facts can be proven, while assumptions are only thoughts made by one mind. You can see here that other people do not share your vision and some don't even see the rock at all! Finally, regarding 'my' altar theory. Looking at it the right way I AM able to discover at least somewhat the same shape as an altar, including the flat top, but again that's just me. And furthermore, you must not confuse real colour with added colour. The picture is probably edited to make it more 'medieval-like', and so it blends in better with the rest of the site. It's all about the same brown/beige/gold kind of thing. So the object itself can be any colour in the world. Anyway, this topic turned out quite nicely, and I enjoy reading it :

Hmm, as a certified historian *cough* I must say Amundogus, that you jump to conclusions way too fast. The Ancient Page you were referring to is this one: Now I can see that you might interpret this as the Stone of Jas, but there are some things I don't get. Why does he call the Stone 'hornless'? And what are these 'setmates' he is referring to? I think (and with me many others, looking at the replies) that you read this, got an idea and now you present this idea as if it was undenieable truth, the only logical outcome. Let me tell you, it is not. This sentence right here sums it all up nicely: You don't have any proof it's the right colour, now do you? You don't have any proof at all it's the right shape, do you? You don't have any proof at all it has the right look, do you? Well? Do you? To me it looks like a Runecrafting Altar, because it's round like a Runecrafting altar, the same size as an ingame Runecrafting Altar and in a cave like multiple Runecrafting Altars. And that, my friend, was a good point I made with solid proof.

Congratulations to creating such a fine thread Psycho Robot! Indeed, every piece of Dragonkin-related information can be found here and your conclusion sounds very plausible =D> . Maybe you can add that the Dragonkin's Castle in the flashback looks like Castle Drakan, and therefore could mean that the Dragonkin are hiding underneath Morytania. Keep up the good work! :

Saradomin is the God of order. hmm and Saradomin is Armadyls successor ... usually the successor of something represents that thing. (you are right about zaros , but i am still sure that if they call him god of pure evil he is not representing that) A Jagex mod stated that Zaros isn't the God of pure evil, so we got nothing on him, except that he had a big empire and really really really powerful guards. Kind of what every guy wants who isn't 100% benign. Also, I don't really know for sure that Armadyl is the God of Law. It sounds familiar, but maybe it does because everybody has assumed it. I do seem to recall Saradomin calling himself Armadyl's successor in one of the godletters or something... And for everybody here shouting to their monitors out of frustration, here is a list of FACTS: Saradomin = God or Order, not God of Good. Not of wisdom either, although he has been given that title by the people and he likes it. Zamorak = God of Chaos, not God of Evil. He has been given the title of God of Evil because he is a selfish brat (okay that peice isn't a fact, but it's close enough). Armadyl = I'm not sure what God it is. Some people say it's Law, but I can't recall any proof of that. One thing that is true is that Armadyl's and Saradomin's philosophies only differ on miniscule points. Armadyl takes a more peaceful aproach to things though, while Saradomin is prepared to kill for his cause, bringing order in the world. Zaros = Unknown what he represents. Isn't the God of Pure Evil.

Basics of Magics kind of contradicts that: [hide=Image][/hide] Apparently, it was brought to the realm by someone with a name starting with a V. No, you've got that wrong. 'V' was a Fremennik Seer who discovered the Stone of Jas and the Rune Essence Rock. The Stone was instantly removed, as you can read, but V took the Essence and with that the ability for humans to use Magic. Magic itself, together with all the Runecrafting Altar and Rune Essence Rocks, was created using the Stone of Jas. I'm not contradicting it was used to create runes/runecrafting (as with all the clues, it's basically confirmed). I'm just wondering whether it was Guthix or 'V' that used it to create all those things. The cutscene in Meeting History suggests Guthix created it (as seen in Jack's cutscene), while Basics of Magic of Lunar Isle suggested 'V' created it. Thats what I'm trying to say: Basics of Magic doesn't suggest V created it, the book says that V stumbled upon it, and that was it. V is just a human who found the resources for mortal magic. I don't think any mortal can wield the Stone and create that stuff. And just so you know, V is a human, he isn't some kind of god.

Zaros and Armadyl aren't good and evil, LCooL had it right. -.- And Sara and Zammy aren't either. You have good and bad Zamorakians, and good and bad Saradominists. Some followers of Saradomin are extremists who want to murder anyone following a different god :? . Saradomin wants order, and he and his followers are prepared to kill for it... He is considered good because most of the civilised people living in RuneScape are being told he is the good guy. It's just that Zamorak is a stupid powerhungry egocentric brat who likes to see people in pain that he's considered evil. Oh and btw, Saradomin isn't the god of wisdom. He likes to present himself that way, but the knowledge you get from Saradominists has to be checked twice before you may believe it.

Basics of Magics kind of contradicts that: [hide=Image][/hide] Apparently, it was brought to the realm by someone with a name starting with a V. No, you've got that wrong. 'V' was a Fremennik Seer who discovered the Stone of Jas and the Rune Essence Rock. The Stone was instantly removed, as you can read, but V took the Essence and with that the ability for humans to use Magic. Magic itself, together with all the Runecrafting Altar and Rune Essence Rocks, was created using the Stone of Jas.

...Wasn't Korvak driven insane because he was told to go the Abyss to spy on the Zamorakian Disciple there and find out who it was that spilled the secret of rune essence to the Zamorakians (anyone who unlocked the abyss). Or was driven insane by whatever he saw in the abyss? And because it was the Disciple he spyed on, thats why he is able to repair pouches? Ordered/forced in there by the mages in the Wizard's tower, wasn't he? Yup, thats exactly how it went. Well we can say for sure that Juna is guarding the Tears of Guthix, a source of some power. But the Oracle said that 'Juna is guarding more than she knows', which implies that there is more happening there. Evidence for this is the fact that Movario and Darve, two treasure hunters employed by Lucien, are searching beneath Lumbridge for a strong magical artefact (believed to be the Stone of Jas). So maybe Juna is guarding the Stone too. The Staff of Armadyl probably serves as a conductor or amplifier for Magic, so mages like Lucien are very keen on having it. Besides that it also is a nice melee weapon, but far less powerful than the spells you could conjure with it. Evidence says that the Stone/Eye is an ancient magical artefact, used by Guthix to create runes, life, altars, rune essence and probably Magic. The Stone was created by the Elder God Jas, a god even more powerful than Guthix. Guthix knows about the Elder Gods, but they've all left this plane and moved on. Jagex implied in the Behind the Scenes that the 'dragon forge' will feature in the Grandmaster Quest. This Forge is believed to be the forge recently discovered in the Ancient Cavern.

I don't know if this topic is too similar to other topics, or is useless and has no discussion value, but tbh, I don't even care. I just want to vent my thought and theories and like to hear yours. Today I played a bit of Great Orb Project, and noticed something: there was a lot of annoyance because of glitches. People sometimes couldn't move, couldn't reach some areas and/or couldn't walk via certain routes. And okay, glitches happen, but during the game a thought formed in my mind: maybe this has something to do with updates ready to happen here. Like the places you can't stand on are already partially programmed to contain something else than a floor (Maybe this can't be true or something, I have no knowledge of such things). So then I got to thinking, what update? And then the Grandmaster Quest came in the picture. Wizard Elriss of the Runecrafting Guild revealed that she is busy calculating the exact place of the 'Eye of Saradomin', with info gathered from the traffic of GOPers through the portals. The Eye is believed to be another name for the Stone of Jas, a legendary divine relic Guthix used to create runes and Magic. And the Stone has some links with Lucien, the Mahjarrat. This evil magician is trying to find the Stone of Jas, and even employed a couple of treasurehunters to help in the search. Many hints in the game and on the site indicate that the new grandmaster Quest will revolve around Lucien's search for the Stone and his theft of the Staff of Armadyl. This is the weapon of the god Armadyl, and artifact Lucien tries to steal in the Temple of Ikov Quest. You can help Lucien and steal it, or you can side with the good guys and kill him (although he won't be dead). So what I'm saying is, maybe Jagex is already tinkering with the Great Orb Project, because it will be used in the Grandmaster Quest to find the Stone of Jas!

Hmm I think that that battle mage, Kolodion, just invented the spells. That if you cast Saradomin Strike, you recieve power from Saradomin because you use his spell and therefore support him. I don't think that Saradomin himself created the Strike. Furthermore, Zaros isn't the owner of the Ancient Spellbook. The Mahjarrat brought the Ancient Magicks with them from Freneskae, and later teached them to other mortals. Because Mahjarrat (eventually) worshipped Zaros, most people view Ancient Magicks as Zarosian, because you must support Zaros to be able to learn them, but it is in no way owned or invented by Zaros. Leeching life is therefore NOT one of his abilities/skills/hobbies. Furthermore, Druids are skilled in Herblore because they are in touch with nature. They are in touch with nature because they are guthixian. Guthix loves balance, and nature is a form and an example of balance, and therefore Guthix loves nature, and so do his followers. So being good with potions and such only is a logical result of supporting Guthix. Furthermore, Sarah from Meeting History invented Herblore, Guthix didn't. And finally, I think that all the Zamorakian dark creatures were at some point Zarosian, whether they knew it or not. Lord Drakan followed Zaros for a while together with all the other Vampyres as he is their leader. Vampyres themselves control a great of creatures, such as Werewolves. When Vampyres and some Mahjarrat became Zamorakian, all their followers began to support Zamorak too. Vampyres are currently Zamorakian because Drakan saw a good deal involving him getting Morytania if he screwed Zaros. EDIT: I read the link quoted above. There is much interesting info to read, but there also seem to be a couple of thing which aren't true (at least imo). For example, I have never heard of the Fremenniks worshipping Armadyl :? .

[hide=] [/hide] I don't think that there can be a God of imbalance, because what is imbalance? Order is a form of imbalance, and so is chaos. Imbalance is everything except balance itself, so it would be hard to have a God of that imo. [hide=] Will, you have to remember that Balance keeps the world from collapsing. Without Balance we would all starve, nature would die out and either an Ice Age will occur or the world will be reduced to a blistering desert... :shock: Giant Wars would occur (What keeps a second Godwars from starting eh?) and much more bad things. I understand that you side with good, because humans are naturally good, and it's real hard for humans to embrace neutrality and balance. I try (in game) and I don't even always succeed. Saradomin + Zamorak - Guthix 0 I dont know if there is a -0 or +0 .. its just 0 .. chaos = imbalance ... btw ... and there isnt an opposite to the 0 (guthix is between zammy and sara in everything .. even colours) You musn't see Balance as a 'thing', like Order and Chaos, or Good and Evil. Balance is simply the state in which the world currently resides, caused by the actions of Saradomin- and Zamorakfollowers (etc.). Like you said, Balance is zero, and therefore nothing. It is positive minus negative. But at the same time it is everything, because it consists of every single particle of the multiverse. Guthix (and I) believe that Balance is the best for the whole world(s), because it is the only state in which things can exist without destroying themselves. For example, without dark there is no light, and therefore the concept 'light' does not exist. [/hide] While you are right that balance keeps the world from collapsing and is what is best for the world, it does not require its own god. All it requires are 2 gods of about equal power that oppose each other. They would cancel out, thus making balance without Guthix's intervention. Thus, Guthix can perish without much disaster on the balance front. Of course, now that I think about it, there is also the fact that he is a god of nature, but, as shown by Zamorak's rise to power, it is likely that elements of a god can be passed down, at least the relevent ones. Plus, there could be another god of nature in there, we just haven't been blessed with the knowledge of an old guy with reed pipes being followed by half-man/half-goats. Well you have a point there, but the problem here is that Saradomin and Zamorak aren't really equally powered. Only one of them needs to be a little bit more powerful, and the whole case escalates, causing the destruction of the world. If Guthix wouldn't be here to do the balancing, and Sara and Zammy would have to do it, they will destroy eachother and the world with them.

Will, you have to remember that Balance keeps the world from collapsing. Without Balance we would all starve, nature would die out and either an Ice Age will occur or the world will be reduced to a blistering desert... :shock: Giant Wars would occur (What keeps a second Godwars from starting eh?) and much more bad things. I understand that you side with good, because humans are naturally good, and it's real hard for humans to embrace neutrality and balance. I try (in game) and I don't even always succeed. Saradomin + Zamorak - Guthix 0 I dont know if there is a -0 or +0 .. its just 0 .. chaos = imbalance ... btw ... and there isnt an opposite to the 0 (guthix is between zammy and sara in everything .. even colours) You musn't see Balance as a 'thing', like Order and Chaos, or Good and Evil. Balance is simply the state in which the world currently resides, caused by the actions of Saradomin- and Zamorakfollowers (etc.). Like you said, Balance is zero, and therefore nothing. It is positive minus negative. But at the same time it is everything, because it consists of every single particle of the multiverse. Guthix (and I) believe that Balance is the best for the whole world(s), because it is the only state in which things can exist without destroying themselves. For example, without dark there is no light, and therefore the concept 'light' does not exist.

It's most likely to be Lucien, Zemouregal is not unique as a 'skull-faced' mahjarrat, they are shape shifters and it's possible that the skull-face is their 'true form'. Enahkra and another mahjarrat's whose name escapes me at the moment showed the ability to transform. Lucien sided with Zamorak against Zaros, however he probably has his own agenda, they are a war like race and probably thrive on trying to surpass one another. I tried zooming into the gem because I kinda think it looks like a saradomin symbol and could possibly be 'the eye of saradomin' or also possibly the stone of Jas. Whatever it is, that gem on the forehead must have a huge significance, especially if we go back to one of the first teasers of 'leave no stone unturned' :) Wow, that was actually one of the best posts I've ever seen! :shock: Nothing but logic and truth, except for one thing: The Eye of Saradomin probably IS the Stone of Jas. Wizard Elriss, the founder of the Runecrafting Guild, talks about the Eye of Saradomin and says that it created all magic and runes, and we know that the Stone did that.

Nice one about the article of the week =D> I agree that the banner hints at the new quest, but I'm not sure who it is... I'm thinking Lucien, because he's been after the Staff of Armadyl for a long time, but I hear from some people that Zemouregal is after it too. I can't be sure, as I'm F2P and can't do Defender of Varrock, and I hate spoilers... :-#

I think the "orbs" are the light beings flying across the chasm near Tears of Guthix. If it's the Light Creatures they're talking about, then what's the 'well'? Not the chasm, cause that thing doesn't sense anything.