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A item for each type will take bag space. And Charmchopa? I haven't read it and don't intend to, but if your gonna mention it, why not elaborate about it? As for the comment about the name, that's irelevant. 1. And? All useful items take up inventory space. That's how Runescape works. 2. You did read about it, so I guess that's now a moot point. 3. I didn't comment on the name of your item. I commented on the name of the charmchompa, but that's neither here nor there.

But who would use it? It's so much more effective to bind a prom plate and have excellent ranged and melee defense + magic prayer than just mediocre defense in everything so no prayer is going to be particularly helpful. See also: even with excellent mage def, high level mages in daemonheim absolutely tear through you. I've heard equally convincing arguments to the contrary. :-k

Oh no I think it's quite easy to get floors that are longer than 35 minutes with just two binds :P Yes, i was wrong about that. I forgot about classes for Ring of kinship. The rings help, yeah, but it's mostly the competency of the team that begets sub-30 minute floors.

Nah, I think it's appropriate that only the pro-est of the pros have access to the primal 2h and platebody. ;) I mean, I WANT THEM SO BADLY OMFG, but consistency comes first. The good news is that the Sagittarian body is probably going to be accessible at an "early" floor.

fml I wish I was as cool as m$trmonopoly. :/ So I'm officially f2p, LOL. I now have fractite binds and I'm just gonna DG and play FOG for the next two weeks. :ugeek:

How would I go about getting invited? :( And what worlds do I use in f2p? I tried w7 but all I could find were noobs doing f5 3:3s. <_<

Bring a pray pot in place of the wrench. I think you can do better than that. ;) :thumbup:

Grimy was talking about doing this on our perm team so we can get our skype feed too, I think its a great idea We should also somehow get a way to get multiple peoples' screens up at once -- there goes the secrecy haha I would LOVE to see this.

Your hide tags are broken for me. I can't read the guide unless I reply to it and read the quote. :mellow: I'm gonna be f2p for a few weeks, so I'm going to try and do a little dungeoneering during this time. What CC's should I use? The two you mentioned are inactive, apparently.

Since slayer was released.

Dungeoneering with a good team = tons of fun, especially when it's with friends. Dungeoneering with a bad team = want to logout irl. Article #2: Eh, was kinda the same thing I read every week.

You can use overloads for CT fiends. You just have to EEE spec as soon as you do it, and make sure you can heal with a brew or something while you're taking the damage. You'll only have trouble doing it once. The third time you overload, you'll only be dealing with one waterfiend at a time.

Yeah, and food isn't the only problem for non-hooded players. It only takes one emote room to slow a floor down if a single player isn't hooded. Altar rooms have to be cleared more thoroughly (if at all) for non-hooded players. Things like that. It's very definitive that having a hood > not having a hood.

An item for each type of drop DOES seem much more likely than some universal orb of whatever. There's already a suggestion for a Charmchompa (I still think that's a clever name). An Orb of Invisibility just seems . . . weird.

Yup, rapier > everything, basically. Like Lowc said, ranged is useful if you don't want to do as much clicking, and in that case the hand cannon is best.

yes please do not troll my blog with talk of money which i do not have thanks. :/

i am sorry psia kia kia kia but i cannot rate this higher than 1/10 because i ddon't know you. :/ sorry

yeah i tried it. it's okay.

I would expect 140-150, maybe slightly more. EDIT: fix'd barrows gloves LOL

Elite void fury dragon boots fire cape zerker (i) barrows gloves disregard that i'm an idiot chaotic maul use turmoil, overloads, unicorn (until 95 summoning, then use iron titan in CT), and EEE don't use protection prayers, just soul split flash when you need it. hard to say how many crims/h. i haven't been to cavern fiends in a while. switch for sw cape if you feel prayer is draining too fast

Psi u trollin'

wtf where was I? :( CONGRATULATIONS BUDDY@@@@

I'm gonna ragequit life if f60 doesn't come out next week.

Two things: 1. Like Bladewing said: inb4efficiencytrolls 2. I really don't think it's possible to get everyone on the same boat, but I think it's possible to make most people AWARE of good dungeoneering methods. Taking control of the wiki article and making a youtube channel are both good ideas, actually. I think most people (with ADD) would be far more inclined to sit through a video than read a guide, and I'm sure that even the lowliest of noobs use the wiki. Honestly, I think one of the biggest problems with dungeoneering teams are the personalities of the individuals. I've been on teams where I was able to explain rushing and have everyone follow directions without a problem. But, more often than not, people are going to ragequit when they die, hide keys when someone kills a cow ( :rolleyes: ), etc, etc. It must take those types of people ages to get dungeoneering experience if they're quitting every floor they're on. I'm really hoping that warped floors get people serious about dungeoneering. I'd like to see serious clans for all levels.

Mary Jane. ;) Prop 19 in California would legalize the distribution of it, basically. It would be taxable, which is reason enough for it to be legalized, as it would be a HUGE help to California's economy. at the cost of an arm and a leg, not worth to legalize if its gonna cost 10 times more to be honest. It's not about buying it personally, it's about helping the economy. If you'd like to debate this, I'm perfectly happy to comply.