Obtaurian

Ah, I see what you're saying.

But the arcane has a higher accuracy bonus, which is far more important than defense. Furthermore, the farseer will only decrease damage in excess of 200 LP, and there aren't many situations where that would come in handy. Im speaking strictly between chaotic staff/farseer kite, that the kite is better between em. arcane may be better. But in order to compare the two, you have to take into account the alternatives. :huh: Chaotic staff is better than its alternative, the SoL; Farseer kite is worse than its alternative, the arcane spirit shield.

But the arcane has a higher accuracy bonus, which is far more important than defense. Furthermore, the farseer will only decrease damage in excess of 200 LP, and there aren't many situations where that would come in handy.

Whoa.

None of you have any idea what you're getting into. Turn back now or you'll regret it forever.

I say staff just because an arcane spirit shield is relatively cheap and is better than the farseer. The staff is the best staff for PVP, obviously. If you don't mind spending more money, the CS would be fun to use in PVM, too. I'd use it if I had it. @ the above poster, the shield degrades faster than the staff.

Okay, you got me. I'll give you ONE example: I mine granite with a BA horn using a lava titan, mousekeys, and the four rock formation (two sandstone and two granite rocks). If I had 77 mining, I would mine coal in the LRC with a BA horn. If I had 80 mining, I would mine and superheat gold in the LRC without the horn. OMFG SEE I BE EFFICIENT. I had to type all that to explain how I train a very simple skill. Hopefully you now understand why I'm not going to do it for every skill. I will now direct you to SixFootOne's post, as he just verbally raped all of your arguments.

Villandra is a horrible example and does nothing to support your argument. She made her various accounts specifically for the challenges, and she actually DID complete those challenges in efficient ways.

Much better. Taking your first statement, anyone can make that claim. One skill alone doesn't make anyone an efficient player. It would be reasonable to assume a player that claims efficiency would at least apply it to many game aspects. Otherwise we can all claim it. You claim to be an efficient player but have never defined why. I've asked you for examples time and again about what makes you efficient. You have given some snippets but its all combat. That alone does not make you an efficient player the same way I cannot claim to be efficient if I do one or two things efficiently either but the rest of time I might not be. I'm honest about what I do, that's all. You might want to remind your friends that if they stop falling over each other to post at me with their insults and bring something decent to the table, I'll give that a go too. Otherwise ignored. Actually, a player can be efficient if he only does one thing and does it efficiently. That is efficiency. We're back to square one. I will not give you "examples" of what makes me efficient because that constitutes writing you a guide, which I have already told you I will not do. If you don't want to believe that I'm efficient, that's your prerogative. FYI, of all the posters in the past three pages or so, I have only three added in-game (and two of them have only posted once or twice). You have a large opposition because you post nonsense, not because we're friends backing each other up.

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Oh, I see. You want Jagex to coddle you and hand you free stuff. Here, I'll do something similar: "JUBILEX IT'S NOT FAIR. Corpy beast won't drop a divine sigil for me, so raise the drop rate to 1/5. k thankz i'd hate 2 hav to grind 200 hours for one@@"

What if the player only does one thing and does it efficiently? That certainly makes him/her an efficient player. Anyway, I can claim to be an efficient player because I do just about everything in an efficient manner. When I kill stuff, I do it efficiently. When I skill (once in a blue moon), I do it efficiently. When I play minigames, I play them efficiently. That's the way I enjoy playing, so I do it.

Going from 70 to 90 is not building up to it. Yeah . . . obviously. What's your point?

lmfao at chat LOL. :thumbup:

Hi, I think you missed this:

:lol: I think I'll follow Troacctid's advice on this one.

10/10 for maxing out. Going for 120 I assume? :thumbup: 10/10 for being an Opeth fan. On these forums, my previous name was Morningrise333. ;)

I'm still alive. Got an interview at Disneyland. YAY! Feeling a bit better about everything. I'll probably start playing again this week. I've been pondering what I'll do after I max combat, so I'll let you guys know when I decide.

Absolutely love the construction, fletching, and runecrafting ideas.

To add my two cents: When overloads and turmoil were released, godswords were kicked in the crotch. When chaotic weapons were released, godswords were beheaded and thrown over a cliff.

Thank you to everyone who explained my argument much more clearly and eloquently than I have (especially Glove for providing examples in real mythology). Seeing as how the only argument left to dismantle seems to be "but they'd have to build up to it," I'll reiterate that, yes, they SHOULD build up to it. I've already said that. Multiple times.

100 eh? But it's not 120 IS IT BOY?! fail/10. gf u tried.

But I'm not arguing that high-level requirements should be slapped on for the sake of exclusivity. I'm arguing that elite quests should have elite content, puzzles, monsters, REQUIREMENTS, and rewards befitting of those requirements.

Depends what you consider high level. Most grandmaster quests, are in my opinion, tailored to high level players. They may not have elite requirements, but they have elite content (or should). I highly disagree. The upcoming quest will apparently have the highest requirements of any quest, and they're all in the 70s (and 80 magic). That's not even close to 99. High-level is at least 90. There are no quests with elite content, and I doubt this upcoming quest will change that.

LMaO I remember that