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"affect a majority of the pop" would mean threads comparing rune and dragon armor comparing dragon longsword and scimitar comparing bolt and blast spells (maybe make a mention for wave) comparing mining iron to at best mith Why do topics have to compare 2 things? :unsure: @Last to know: I was pointing out the same

Are you saying even at current prayer potion prices, piety is not worth using? I don't use it. But can do it however you please, but it seems silly to me to have to go out of your way to make money just to do slayer which for most people is a fun skill that makes money. Nah, I'm giving he my usual horrible advice: Have fun while playing runescape it's not a job. :rolleyes: This. Is efficiency trolling. Purposely posting bad advice. This should be bannable. This is just trolling. Trolling other people because they don't like whips. And personal attacks, which were edited out by mods. This should be bannable. EDIT: @TheAncient, but you can also be efficient without being elitist. Why not try that?

You mean "nex hunters" and "dgsweepers" (now Dg sweepers) Yah. DG sweepers is great, doubt I'll be using it since i've pretty much alienated all the admins :lol: Kinda going offtopic but still I'd like to comment on such statistical threads like "Divine vs Elysian in a PvM setting". Not really helpful considering it doesn't affect a majority of the pop. Not saying it's wrong to make a topic like that though. I just went to read up that thread again, and didn't see it even making 2 pages. But @TheAncient, I'll admit you have created discussion worthy topics, like "Pro DG", but the first couple posts I read, it still emits that same Elitist attitude which makes me go :mellow: Blinded by hatred towards Elitism I am for sure.

Wooooohoooo go Oilers :lol: Get that #1 pick baby!

Just my opinion.

If I'm blinded by hatred, it's probably more towards Elitism than say you in specific. But I don't view comparing armour stats "Div vs Ely" or "Dg shields vs Div vs Ely" etc. much help for the community. Just saying.

I assume you're talking about his multiple guides, hundreds of posts in H&A, and all of those topics in GD that've bred legitimate discussion and results? Yeah, he obviously doesn't want to help improve anything. :rolleyes: Love, Obtaurian, an Efficiency Clown Yah that whole "Elitist view on crashing" bred a GREAT debate eh? Sure helped the community improve when alot of people, including me, came to the conclusion that crashing is a douchey thing to do. And all those calculations about Divines and Elys which probably affected a minority because those are end game items that not everyone has access to. And what guides? "l2Nex"? or that "L2DG" cc he started? Those are some great clan names that don't sound derogatory at all. Because personally, I've only seen "l2" used as a trollphrase between close friends or an insult.

If you want to do alloments, you should probably do separate trips for them considering juju farming pots only last just enough for 5 herb patches.

Revenents are crowded with clans, I went there twice and got specced out both times in less than 30 seconds. Maybe try the Chaos Elemental, I suppose it might have better rates considering it is a "boss", but isn't that difficult.

That makes me wonder if people felt that way why they even bother to help at all. It must get annoying seeing the same questions over and over, or someone obstinately saying their methods are correct when obviously wrong, but there's no need to pay them any heed. Because we genuinely like improving things and helping other people get better. Tip it moderations lack of support on the matter have made me and others give serious thought in leaving tip it. But you don't really show genuine desire to improve things. Especially that whole Elitism topic you created. Like where you basically said you were better than everyone else because of the way you played the game.

That I disagree with. What I'm saying is if someone suggests something that isn't the most efficient, they are not a moron, or mentally handicapped. They are merely TRYING to help. Unless a person has a track record of these posts, I don't think it's fair to just start jumping on them and flaming them to no end, which I've seen on more than a couple situations in H&A. You can suggest your more efficient method without putting down another person. And you can do it without adding witty sarcastic comments at the end of a post. So why not report it? You're not supposed to name users in a negative light, and it's against the spirit of the community to be derogatory to other people. Wouldn't something like that be removed? I remember that there was a thread specifically for that, and it was locked. Laughing at ways other people play the game is probably my primary reason for being against "efficiency clowns".

But what you can do is not call other users a moron or [developmentally delayed] for posting different advice. For example, if someone uses an SGS, they are not a moron. If someone doesn't want to spend 15m for a fury, they are not [developmentally delayed]ed.

I also want you to notice the bold and italicized part. That is what bothers me about "efficiency clowns". You're definately right that calling such people names isn't right, but from what I've seen over the past few years, it really was the "efficiency clowns" who brought it up on themselves. I won't name anyone, but there was a thread about killing CaveSlimes in the General Guides section, and it got trolled very hard, with the OP being insulted countless times by the people you look up to. From that point on, I started to notice more and more trolling by "efficiency clowns". And that's when I decided my stance on this situation. I'm not against efficiency by all means, but when these people have established themselves as [wagon], and even started trolling as a group of friends, I didn't really like it. I made some posts in the past couple years voicing my dislike towards "efficiency clowns", but I have toned myself down over the last while. Another user was way more vocal, but since the group of "efficiency clowns" were a close group of friends, you can guess what happened. Troll comments carried on from one thread to another as soon as said user decided to post something. Granted, this user did post trollish comments about efficiency. Some threads that has contributed majorly to this whole pro/anti efficiency "split", IMO, include the "Elitish view on crashing", and "CLS vs Rapier", etc. For example, as soon as someone says CLS > Rapier for something like Bandos, he gets flamed to hell, like "if you think CLS > Rapier, you're [developmentally delayed]ed". The CLS vs Rapier thread soon degraded to "efficiency clowns" talking about penis sizes... Just some of my observations. So @ JacTise, don't act like the "efficiency clowns" are the victims. Because to be completely honest, they sort of started alot of this. EDIT: I forgot to say that the 200m thread has alot of pro-efficiency players, and barring insults about nolifing, their advice and discussions are put forward in a much better way than some of the efficiency-trolls.

mod please ban him from help and advice ------------- op sell guthans and dharoks its useless get 70 prayer slay with piety and super pots, get extremes asap etc etc etc From what I've seen, you are no better. Invest your slayer points (after smoking kills quest obviously) on Slayer helm, then Slayer rings. Save some points to block tasks you don't like.

Well that's the same as TSN's pool. Damn I forgot my passwords to my accounts on TSN, and I ESPN won't validate my zip code :wall: :wall: I even used my real one.

How do pools work again?

Except he's right. Super attacks are cheaper, making those and super strs, defs can set you up for extremes. Although making some super energies to turn into spec restores later won't hurt either.

Is the 2.5k sara brews even real??!!! That's insane.

To derail the constant leaf bashing..... Here are my predictions: WSH vs NYR, Wsh in 6 PHI vs BUF, PHI in 5 BOS vs MTL, BOS in 7 PIT vs TB, TB in 6 VAN vs CHI, CHI in 7 SJ vs LA, SJ in 5 DET vs PHX, PHX in 7 ANA vs NSH, ANA in 6

Well, the posters have changed quite a lot compared to a while back. A lot of the old posters left who made it a great place to be and they were replaced by trolls and other people who don't exactly create the best atmosphere. The reason why these posts are seen at all shows the relaxed moderation of Tip it because all posts that are deemed offensive are split off/moved away to hidden areas of the boards. So, they would be hidden if so. If it got any more relaxed, then there would be even more problems tbh. I agree completely, it's different now, and I think the change happened a couple years ago. I also agree with Noxx on what he said about trolling, I've seen too much of that.

At 82 hunter, I did 1 hour of Draconics-Common. Using Scentless potions but no bear. 190 Draconics and 27 Commons caught. 1 Ugune 4 Argway 4 Samaden 3 Shengo 3 Erzille My question is are Ugune seeds rarer than others? Or was I just unlucky?

Hijacking thread for a question, Exactly how often do you get Ugune seeds when hunting Draconics? I just stayed there for 1 hr, and managed 190 draconic traps, yet I got 4 samaden and 3 each of shengo, argway, erzille, and only 1 ugune?

Dungeoneering because it actually takes skill.

The place I suggest will take a while to get to, so make sure to bring enough food to last a while. Basically, you want to kill ice warriors. A good spot is the near the ice queen you have to kill in Hero's Quest. You can even leave auto-retaliate on and look away for a while. Use super potions to kill faster and get hit less, they drop tons of golds and you can grab several hundred in no time. :shades:

That's an honest mistake though right? I thought DGS tolerated those. :mellow: