You want to throw a great fully-functional device against a wall because of a pre-held grudge against Apple? :???: I admit, I never was an apple fanboy. It meant at most I'd poke fun at mac users, Apple never really did anything to wrong me. I was completely turned off when I learned that a week after I got my iPod OS3 came out, but I had to pay $20 to upgrade it. What the hell, I just got the damn thing and now I have to pay for a software upgrade... one of the *features* was cut and paste... Cut and paste isn't a feature, its expected. It also meant that all the new apps wouldn't be compatible for my iPod, which is complete bull. Luckily they didn't charge for OS4, otherwise I would've been really ticked off and probably actually chucked it against the wall.