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I would like to point out something. Adding Dragon smithing will only lower the prices by a TINY amount, maybe like 5k. 864 weapons a day isn't anything, it would take five years for the amount of dragon weapons in the game to double. And of course, many weapons will be lost. I also doubt that the number would reach 864, it would probably be around 200. If Rune wasn't smithable, the price for, say, rune platelegs would rise about... 3k, 5k at the most. The reason? It's available in stores! Just like all the dragon weapons that I listed.

You mean "they", not "he". Jagex is a 300-employee company. Kharazi sounds good.

If 200 mm armor is considered medium, then what's considered heavy? Nice installation. However, it would be helpful if you kept the all the parts in one thread.

I support. It's a brilliant idea.

Ignoring the fact that it takes much less effort to make an MSB than to smith a Rune Platebody, I would like to point out that 40 isn't 50. Imagine all the people with millions because it's so easy to fletch yew bows. Imagine all the people with millions because it's so easy to merchant. Imagine all the people with millions because it only takes 75 wc, a very easy-to-train skill, to chop mages. Imagine the thousands of die-hard mining fans that faithfully trained for hours upon end so they could smith the legendary rune, only to find that they had wasted their time, only to find that Smithing is practically useless now.

Tell me how hard 3mish xp is to get? for both of the skill it's around 3.2M to smith rune which is not hard to get. Also rune is the best f2p armour and is wildy used in memeber too. So why not make it a bit hard to get? What i ment was dragon was supposed to be hard to get not make some smither get it. It'd ruin those select dragon items. If your too lazy to get the level for the rewards that it gets you need to be a little more determined :). 1-92 smithing is the same for 92-99. Your about cutting rune plate requirments in half. Thats totally insane. Ok listen to this. Making rune plates at 92 is like wearing barrows at lvl 1 which is only cutting the XP by about 1m which 1/6th of the xp you wanted to cut for smithing. Lets out this into something with 6M xp perspective here Ice Barrage at Level 70 Mage how would u like that 1? Thats about 6M cut in xp. If we're to cut requirments for 1 skill cut them for all. What if Jagex lowered the max hit of Ice Barrage to 18? What if Jagex lowered the defence bonuses of Barrows so that they're equivalent to Addy? That's what Smithing is right now. It makes sense to lower the requirements. If you asked any player which would be more drastic: making Barrows level 1 or making Rune Plates level 93, what do think they would say? Yet you are saying that the latter would be 6 times as drastic. Also, about the dragon. I'd think that forcing the smither to do an incredibly long and difficult quest and have to spend a long time mining in a extremely remote and dangerous location to get enough ores for a couple of weapons would be enough. Also, I highly doubt that it would affect the prices AT ALL.

Good idea, but... Lower the amount of coins. Maybe 1/2 of the monster's level to five times the monster's level.

This is the only way it could work is if it required: 80 Magic. Member's only. Can only deposit 28 items at a time, including stackables. For example, you could only deposit 28 arrows at a time. 5 law runes. Some extremely expensive staff that you need to do a quest to use.

This is useless because Jagex has announced MANY times that they plan on giving players the ability to craft bloods, but I guess I support.

Okay. *Rune takes 40 defence to wear. Why should it take 85 mining to mine it? Or 85 smithing to smelt it? **If you actually read my suggestion carefully, you would know that I excluded all dragon items that can only be obtained through drops, leaving only the store-bought items. ***That's like saying "Don't make Firemaking actually be useful just because you're too lazy to train it"

As I recall, the other games have a lot of grinding too, often more than Runescape.

I. Introduction In the early days of RSC, Mining/Smithing was the #1 way to make money. Players depended on smithers to get their armor. But sadly, after the release of dragon, Barrows, etc., smithing went from #1 to about... #3758394834349893847. So obviously there needs to be a solution. I do realize that smithing will never be near the top again, but it definitely needs to be a practical method of making money, which it isn't. II. Levels Way back in RSC, rune was the best armor. Therefore, it took a very high smithing level to make rune. Now, rune is considered noob armor. Consequently, the level requirements for rune (as well as other metals) should be lowered. Smelting Note: All bars not mentioned here will be at the same level as before. Lvl 1. Bronze. Same as always. Lvl 15. Iron. Same as always. Lvl 30. Steel. Same as always. Lvl 45. Mithril. Five levels lower than before. Lvl 60. Adamantite. Ten levels lower than before. Lvl 75. Runite. Ten levels lower than before. Lvl 95. Dragon :shock: Smithing Note: All items not mentioned here will be at the same level as before. Lvl 45. Mithril Dagger. Lvl 46. Steel Plateskirt, Steel Platelegs, Mithril axe Lvl 47. Mithril Mace. Lvl 48. Steel Platebody, Mithril Med Helm, Mithril Bolts. Lvl 49. Bulls eye Lantern, Mithril Dart Tips, Mithril Sword, Mithril nails. And so on. All smithing requirements for Mithril will be lowered by 5. Lvl 60. Adamant Dagger. Lvl 61. Adamant Axe, Mithril Plateskirt, Mithril Platelegs. Lvl 62. Adamant Mace. Lvl 63. Adamant Med Helm, Mithril Platebody, Adamant Bolts. And so on. All smithing requirements for Adamant will be lowered by 10. Lvl 75. Rune Dagger. Lvl 76. Rune axe, Adamant Plateskirt, Adamant Platelegs. Lvl 77. Rune Mace. Lvl 78. Rune Med Helm, Rune Bolts, Adamant Platebody. Lvl 88. Rune Claws. Lvl 89. Rune 2h. Lvl 91. Rune Plateskirt, Rune Platelegs. Lvl 93. Rune Platebody. And so on. All smithing requirements for Rune will be lowered by 10 (with the exception of Rune Plateskirts, Rune Platelegs, and Rune Platebodies. Their requirements have been listed above). Lvl 95. Dragon Dagger Lvl 96. Dragon Mace Lvl 98. Dragon Longsword, Dragon Scimitar. Lvl 99. Dragon Battleaxe. III. Dragon Smithing As mentioned above, my suggestion will include the introduction of smelting/smithing Dragonmetal. According to Runescape mythology, Dragon was used by the Dragonkin before the God Wars. Therefore, it would make sense that a player would have to kill a dragonkin before being able to smelt/smith Dragon. This is how it would work: There will be a quest, similar to Desert Treasure. In that quest, you will be searching for the dragon mine. Once you find it (through many complicated steps typical of Runescape's quests), you will have to face a Dragonkin before/upon entering. The quests's rewards would include access to the dragon mine, and a considerable amount of Mining and/or Smithing XP. The mine will have one or two dragon rocks, and some medium-level agressive monsters. IV. Dragon Pickaxe The release of the Dragon pickaxe is so certain that I feel the it is not nessacary to go any further. V. Keldagrim Keldagrim is supposed to be the main mining/smithing center for P2P Runescape. However, it is not. This is due to multiple reasons, including but not limited to: [*:3ic8cypq]Bad placement of bank. It is very far from the blast furnace. [*:3ic8cypq]Remote location. [*:3ic8cypq]Not enough ores Keldagrim needs to have an update adressing the above issues. VI. Conclusion This is my suggestion to Jagex as to how to remove Mining/Smithing from the "obsolete" pile. If you agree, post here, and I will add you to the Supporter's list. If you disagree, post here. DO NOT PM ME. It's really annoying. F.A.Q. Q: Are you just writing this because you're too lazy to get a high smithing level? A: No. I just feel that the rewards aren't worth the levels. Mining/Smithing makes much less than other skills, so why bother training it? Q: Mining and Smithing are fine as they are. Why change it? A: As mentioned earlier, Mining/Smithing make much less than other skills. The purpose of this suggestion is to rebalance the skills. Q: Wouldn't this make high-level smithers angry? A: No, they'll have dragon. Q: Dragon smithing will ruin the market. A: I doubt it. Only a handful of smithers will be able to make it. Anyways, the dragon items I mentioned are already available in stores. The stores will still supply the vast majority of dragon weapons, so the price would only drop slightly. [hide=Supporters (3)] 1. Srgnt Suited 2. Harrington 3. oglibrary2000 [/hide]

I feel as if this quest is revolutionary. Maybe from now on, quests will have better rewards... :-k

Very good, it sounds like something that belongs in a published book. So much raw emotion... *grabs knife and starts slashing at wrist*

Quintuple post! That's not something you see everyday... I haven't actually read the whole story, just skimmed through it. I'm reading it right now...

Please. Take a needle, and pop your inflated head. Who in the world starts a thread in General Discussion because you posted some dragons? Let's see how your vellum fares against that.

Wow, you are so ignorant. You can't even imagine what I went through. No point in arguing with you though, you're a stuck up idiot and you know it. What do you want us to do? Cry for you? OK: Read the rest of my message, you moron. Too bad YOU EDITED IT AFTER I posted (or clicked "quote") By the way, I'm still crying for you...if that makes you feel any better. [/hide] What Bubsa's saying is that social anxiety builds character. In Highlander's case, it probably wasn't a good thing, but it sometimes is good for you, if it is mild. Wow, you idiot, sure protect your favorite idiot and blame me. Read his message you illerate fool. He said it was "normal" for any child and that it was just growing up, basically saying all the pain I went through was "normal". What an ignorant statement. Believe me, I see you little "normal" people, your suffering is nothing. Mild pain is good, normal, and builds character. The pain you experienced is not good, nor is it normal, but in the end it built character anyway.

[hide] Wow, you are so ignorant. You can't even imagine what I went through. No point in arguing with you though, you're a stuck up idiot and you know it. What do you want us to do? Cry for you? OK: Read the rest of my message, you moron. Too bad YOU EDITED IT AFTER I posted (or clicked "quote") By the way, I'm still crying for you...if that makes you feel any better. [/hide] What Bubsa's saying is that social anxiety builds character. In Highlander's case, it probably wasn't a good thing, but it sometimes is good for you, if it is mild.

I notice that it says under your name that you are a girl... I think it's wrong that your parents are being so forceful about this. However, I think it's best that you try not to upset them, this issue is already putting a lot of stress on them.

I saw it in a movie... A British girl was in a spelling bee and spelled maneuver like that, and the judges said that that was how it was spelled in Britain.

oh snap :lol::lol: Make that five.

That's how it's spelled if you're British. Great story.

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Ugh, this quiz is all lies... 4/10.