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So the killer needs to bring 75k, but what about the killed? Does he have to bring 75k? Should he bring more? Less?

How long should you wait to get "good" loot? Me and my friend are trying to see what happens if we kill eachother.

No, you can't fight back. It was changed a few weeks after release I guess. It was always like that.

Situational, not useless. And AGS is better for pvp, it's all about getting the k0, not burning out your opponents food.

This is why I bought out Pineapple pizzas...

Yeah, although he's saying that for himself, at 99 slayer and maxed melee, using piety and whatnot for the absolute fastest. Obviously someone with melee stats in the 80s-90s who wasn't praying (Not using piety alone would account for the drop in XP) wouldn't get anywhere near that - especially when very few players can 'click' at that 'level'. I've found him fairly reliable with numbers (although I generally can't go as fast as he does, courtesy of my bad internet connection). But I think the average XP of 50k is, if anything, a little high - bandits is around 60k, and that doesn't count banking\getting tasks. And to a poster who said that if I barely get 100k at zombie monkies then it isn't as good as the '120k' I am claiming, I'd like to bring up these two points: #1, my summon gets roughly 9-13k XP per hour for me by itself; I've gotten 113k XP in an hour with it. #2, I said 110k, not 120k, which is almost exactly what I get there, give or take 3k. I'm not actually talking about his what he actually does in game, but his playing habits. He's crazy, 100% attention, and hell, he even listens to RS music...

Is it true that a Gs is better then a whip? With maxed stats and a slayer helmet, of course.

I tested my experience per hour, and got at least 100k xp/hr here with the best equipment possible plus an SGS for speccing and using Piety. It is possible to hit, but you need 95+ offensive melee and the best equipment. I see... you are a reliable source, so maybe I messed up. I will have to restest.

At your low stats? That theoritically doesn't make sence. Considering a combat familiar brings in 10k+ xp/hour, Zombies monkies have lower defense, no need to go up ladders to recharge prayer/make unagressive, non multi combat which makes you lose an attack turn alot, need to pick up drops... and again, with your low stats. (Piety doesn't make all that up, or even close.) I'm guessing you messed up in your tests, as tests shouldn't differ 15k xp/hour.

Probably vambs + unholy book.

Remember this is just a small preview! Please give CC, so I can make my guide better before completion! Ultimate To-do quest guide! In this guide, you will find exactly which quest to do, and why. No, this is not your everyday guide where it will just tell you the reward, or sort out the xp rewards. I will tell you wether it is worth doing the quest for that certain aspect. There will be the best guide linked for each skill/activity. To use this guide, search the category you want. For example, you want a quest that will help Woodcutting. You see "As a First Resort..." click on it, and read it. You see that's it's worth doing the quest only if you cut Yews. So now, use the search function [ctrl+F] then search up As a First Resort... Read the other uses for the quest. You'll see that it helps in Runecrafting, money making, and much more. Make sure you read each of the uses, because sometimes I list a quest under a category just to prove that it's not useful. As a First Resort... is listed under God War Dungeon, when in fact it doesn't help at all, which is stated in the review. In the end, it's up to you to decide if you want to do the quest or not. General uses [hide=Animal Magnetism]Quest guide The Ava's accumilator picks up Steel arrows and equips them automatically if you don't have anything in your quiver. The Attractor, however, picks up Iron and steel arrowheads, which takes up inventory space, so it's pretty useless. If you're skilling, you'll want to wear an Accumilator to obtain free Steel arrows. Do this quest if you have 50 Ranging. [/hide] [hide=As a First Resort...]Quest guide Too many benefits from this quest. Energy restoration, a Hunter boost, a seller of raw meats, and 5 very nice pools all with very nice abilities. Honestly, do this quest ASAP [/hide] Location [hide=Another Slice of H.A.M]Quest guide You get access to Dorgesh-Kaan - Keldagrim train route. this allows you to travel to Keldagrim very fast, especially because you can teleport here using a Goblin Village Teleport Sphere. [/hide] [hide=As a First resort...]Quest guide You access a bank, which is a very nice location for Woodcutting teaks and Firemaking, or any other skill due to its isolation. Also, there are many spas which are very useful. [/hide] Transportation [hide=Another Slice of H.A.M.]Quest guide You obtain the Goblin Village teleport spere (which costs 2 Law runes and a Molten glass.) [/hide] [hide=As a First Resort...]Quest guide You obtain a pool which allows you to have infinite stamina, and for how long depends on your Agility level. It works great after you lose your energy in God wars dungeon, or when you are doing an skill or activity that requires energy. However, for some skills such as Runecrafting, it is more efficient to use a Super energy potion. Do this quest ASAP. [/hide] Making money [hide=As a First resort]Quest guideYou can buy raw meats from the bank which are secondary ingredients for Summoning. You can make 400k+ gp/hour doing this! (It depends on how much it's selling for, though. The best is usually Raw bird meat.) [/hide] God War Dungeon [hide=Another Slice of H.A.M. (Bandos)]Quest guideThis quest unlocks the Ancient mace, which restores prayer. However, the real use is of the Ancient hammer is that it is the only Bandos item that doesn't cost 1m+. However, you don't need it as you can kill hobgoblins instead, and use a Whip/godsword instead. Do not do this quest for Bandos God war dungeon. [/hide] [hide=As a First Resort... (Saradomin and Bandos)]Quest guideNo, energy restoration doesn't help for Saradomin. The kill count takes far too long, so by the time you are in Saradomin's room, your energy would have run out. For bandos, you can just get you kill count at Hobgoblins, negating the need for Bandos. Don't do this quest for GWD. [/hide] Combat (Attack, Strength, Defense, Prayer; training, not monster hunting.) [hide=Another Slice of H.A.M.]Quest guide You obtain the Ancient mace, which has a special attack that restores the equal amount of Prayer when used! It sounds good on paper, but it has extremely low stats. This is inferior to the Dragon dag (p++), so it's an optional weapon. It has some situational uses, unless you have a Saradomin godsword. I wouldn't do this quest just for the Ancient mace. There are other good rewards, however. If you go Bandos and you need a weapon, this is a possibility. [/hide] [hide=As a First Resort...]Quest guideThis quest is very useful for its spas. It gives hp above normal (depends on level), along with 8 prayer. The bandos pools allows you to go Bandos, and the energy can be useful for a variety of things. [/hide] Agility [hide=As a First resort]Quest guideThe infinite energy is extremely useful. I would use the spas, although you can just use Super energies. However, you don't really use that much energy while training Agility (not as much as say, Runecrafting) so I wouldn't use the spas as it takes a while to get there. If you don't make money that fast, stick with spas. [/hide] Firemaking [hide=All Fired Up]Quest guide You obtain the ability to fire Beacons, which is useless. However, the rewards you obtain are very useful. The Ring of Fire and the Flame gloves are extremely useful while Firemaking. Do this quest if you have 62 Firemaking. [/hide] Ranging [hide=Animal Magnetism]Quest guide You obtain the Ava's accumilator or attractor, which is currently the best Ranging cape in the game. It picks up most of your arrows if there is no obstacle in the way, and it has the highest range bonus in the game. Do this quest if you have 30 (50 is much better) Ranging. [/hide] Runecrafting [hide=As a First Resort...]Quest guideThe Salt spa gives infinite energy for a while, so it's extremely useful. However, if you can make money very fast it's more profitable to use the Super energy potion as it takes a while to get to the spa. [/hide] Summoning - Kent's guide to Summoning mastery! (AOW) [hide=As a First Resort...]Quest guideYou do alot of running while Summoning, so it is a good idea to use the spas. There shouldn't be much of a difference if you can make money very fast, though because you can use Super energies. [/hide]

Come to think about it, I think Slayer does give less then 70kxp/hour. Zarfot has a tendency to over exaggerate, and when he's not, nobody else can pay attention like he does. (Referring to 98% of the people who play)

4-6 more range pots.

Sorry for the nitpick, but your english fails. And I never said it made me max more. I said it just had the bonus, which made me hit a higher amount more often. It determines if you hit higher than a lower attack bonus. :roll: Which is exactly my point - it doesn't. It only determines if you hit a 0 or not.

You don't need broad bolts, use bronze! But you see my point. Trust me, bring more.

Accuracy doesn't determine how much times you hit your max hit. It just determines if you hit. Sorry for the nitpick, but it's always good to know these types of facts.

Much less antifires, much more range pots. As in much more, like 10 more range pots. Leave some spaceholders, at least 4.

Unless you are already pietying with a godsword?

Referring to the BoB potential, if you can recreate this with a Pack Yak, then very high xp rates are possible. I was actually referring to over 9000 steel titans.

I did the test. I was surprised by the results, this loation is a decent training spot, but definetely not as good as you make it out to be. * I didn't move to the second location, as agressiveness actually slows down xp rates because it steals your attack turn. Also, it saves time if you don't have to run back to the second room. More attention demanding, I know, but this is just for testing purposes for max xp. * I super potted when my stats were 4-6 away from normal. (Much more often than suggested) * I didn't afk. * I'm 133 combat, with 98 Attack and Strength. 186k gp and 92,316 xp/hour. This is very nice, but obviously not 100k+/hour. Zombie monkies are 110k xp/hour, so this location is very great. That location also costs 40k/hour in pots, but this location costs ~20k in items, so I would measure it 206k gp and 19k xp. If you take Zombies, you are sacrifising 206k gp for 19k xp. Thats 10.8 gp/xp. And since zombies are 110k/hour, if you can make over 1.2m/hour, go Zombies. BUT remember that my rates are unrealistic for any average player, and that would slow down the xp and cash rate by 10k xp and 20k gp... so this location is more around 82k xp and 166k gp/hour. (Which will bring down costs to 10k.) 196k gp for 28k xp. Thats 7 gp/xp. If you value your time 770k+/hour, I would use zombies. If not, stick here. Quote this if you want. EDIT: This location gives 6 Blue charms, 27 Gold charms, and 12 Green charms. (Not enough testing, sorry.) Thats 10k more Summoning xp; you can gain 40k easily at Waterfiends, with no cost. So thats an extra 1/4. I multiplied it by 125%, coming at 962,500. So if you can make over 962,500gp/hour and you care about Summoning, come here. (I could be wrong about the 125%, it depends really on how much you value Summoning. If you care enough to train it, then this is right.)

You can't balance Runescape's economy by math, honestly.

I'm also trying to avoid the flame, but try to do the test at Saradomin... it might be a little hard, but it should be do-able. And Verac's truely has lower defense. It could be a substitute, but I doubt it will replace it. The only proof we have is experience, yet you have none. So until you actually come with some evidence, I'll keep using a GS, and suggest to others to do so. Again, I'm trying to avoid flame. It's kinda hard on this thread though...

I wish them put them back in too, but it's not coming back. TIF took it back a while ago, because they didn't want quote pyramids or something... I don't know why they just don't allow up to put up to 1 or 2 extra hides...

Not exactly what you're saying here... better when Mach Tornado [bleep]es? Always try to recovery using shuffle loop, it's the best recovery in the game without an exaggeration. The way Mach tornado's priority and hitbox is set up doesn't make for the best recovery... it's vulnerable at the top, which is how you get [bleep]ed so... Not sure, I could be wrong. I havn't checked in the competetive scene for quite a while... Shuttle Loop is the best to get back to stage horizontal wise, but if MK gets [bleep]ed (Or is a decent distance down from the stage) it is better to Mach Tornado back up, I gimped Mac several times with my D-air because of that. He's not using it right. Autocancel it by grabbing the edge with the actual up-b, not the glide. If you edgehog, jump once or twice to stall, which forces you to get off, or die.

We should play sometimes, I know I can give you a few pointers.