Inuashakent

This guide is pretty basic. Where and how. You could definetely use more bulk, such as more options for inventory, familiars, locations, equipment, prayers, etc. Your charm drops off by a bit. 32.16% crimsons, .96% blue, 3.92% green, 7.42% gold by my rates. You could quote this if you want... Your "1 trip's loot" seems to be one of the better runs, you should add a more realistic value, as the only way to get an average loot is by adding a fraction of a whip. :XD: This was funny :lol: Your equipment is a bit vague and doesn't really reflect the true uses of each. For example, Proselyte is a specialty item and should be used while praying so you can't really compare it with a d chain. And in some cases, Barrows>Bandos if you need the defense, no bunyip, etc. For the weapon, D scim is so obsolete now that nobody with 70 attack should use it. Try the SS. And about the recommended stats, I think anybody with 85 Slayer is high lv enough to kill them. 68 Summoning is definetely not a requirement, by the way. Theres a lot I didn't cover, as I think this is only in it's rough draft. (?) Good luck on finishing/adding to it.

res. Good luck, will add C/C later :lol:

Cfalcon sucks because of his slow attacks, and low priority mainly. And he plays like a combo characters, which worked in Brawl, but because there is no combos in brawl...

A) Being a PMod is a huge hassle, trust me. B) Asking for pmod status makes you immedietely a non candidate. C) There is no benefit for being a pmod, so the only reason you would possibly want it would be to show off, completely opposite of the whole point.

Honestly, there are not that many skills that are "useful" Farming, Runecraft and Mining for cash (possibly), Agility, all combat, and Construction. Everything else just fails due to low money/you could buy the end results instead for less cash. Now if you just want 2000 total, that's really easy. Thieve, Hunt, and combat.

Duradel has great cannoning tasks too. For example, Black demons in Tavelry give great xp per hour with RANGE, but Chaos tunnels is always better due to the charms. If you're just ranging, Sumona may be do-able, but I'd take Duradel's large tasks, cash, and charms any day.

True, but with 40 defense and 1 Prayer, I'd say it'll be far too much of a hassle to even stay that long to make them unagressive. Meh it's only about 10 minutes or so... after that he can stay there forever theoretically That's not the best option, as Range pots helps a lot... It would still be the fastest option, though... It really would be a huge hassle :XD: It's just hard for a Pure to train Summoning, because Waterfiends is meh and Rock lobsters are impossible. If you're leaning more towards xp and little Summoning xp, you could go to Black demons. They're easy to range as a pure...

Yeah, if you don't want to Burst Lobs, don't burst at all. I don't see why you couldn't burst with limited time though...

Just use Duradel. You make a lot more money from tasks, you lose much less cash from cannon, tasks are much larger, more Slayer points, and Duradel has great tasks if you properly block/skip certain tasks. Most importantly, SUMMONING. Never ignore that. Overall, Duradel is by far better. Sell your cannonballs and buy Prayer potions for Piety.

Basically, a whip is superior even if you do not have a Fury or a Salve. A glory would still overcome the Obby.

Funny, I am going crazy about how much I want to play FFTA2 before I read this thread. I'm buying it mailed. :XD:

I have to agree with this guy. DFS isn't made for Slayer. Zarfot is the most reliable source out there, follow him. Honestly, SS isn't really required. Z spear could do the job at Waterfiends. Remember, equipment such as Bandos are... not that great. Piety and the like would get you far farther, although you won't have people saying that you look nice or rich.

Ahhh how could I have forgotten that... And Sakurai stated in an interview Captain falcon was his favorite. I was searching for it, when I found this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWXDbL07yv4 It's an interesting video.

True, but with 40 defense and 1 Prayer, I'd say it'll be far too much of a hassle to even stay that long to make them unagressive.

I use default gamecube controller: L = Special (Might fix back to shield) R = Shield A = Attack Z = Grab B = Special X + Y = Jump/special C stick = Smash Analog = Walk D-Pad = Taunt. Sakurai made Kirby but he sucked in Melee... Sakurai didn't put DDD/MK in Melee... Captain falcon is his favorite character, but he sucks.

Then - use - the - whip. If you're using a Salve ammy, you don't need a Fury. If you don't have a Salve ammy, you're not powertraining. Also, glory + whip > Obby

The start up on Ike's attacks are too long to combo anyways. Double the landing and starting lag of all of MK's attacks and make his priority lower and you have a not so broken MK. :XD:

Trust me, it's far too self explanitory to explain. You add their code. Brawl = join/make games. The other one to the right = see friend's info/join games. Kirby is actually really good...

Well... when you say the best xp, do you mean for Str? This is only partly true... A) Whip on controlled > all B) Now with SS (update after Salve, so muggi's right) obby weapons have no use. C) All good training spots now REQUIRE Salve amulet. Zombie monkies, Armoured zombies, and Ghost warriors (or whatever they're called)

Fire giants are actually good for Summoning xp. However, they are the ONLY gold droppers that's good. Gold's sucks, but if you calculate how often Fire giants drops golds... it still falls short to Crimsons, though.

The difference in price is irrelevant. Ok, so it's decent for people with 60 Attack. Is that what you're basing your argument off of? And as Philip said, my argument is hard proof. Xp rates is pretty much written in stone.

To add to IC's grab, remember... 1) Nana must be present. She is [developmentally delayed]ed. 2) Pathetic grab range. 3) Curved stage = no CG.

EDIT: AHHHH... you posted a second before me. :XD: will edit in a sec. Ike is NOT better than DDD if you know what you're doing. DDD has a good projectile, fast attacks, long reach, great recovery, huge power, the best grabber in the game. Combine those and he has a great edguarder. D tilt, F tilt, U tilt, D smash, U smash, grab, U air, dair, fair, and bair. All have a very long range, and are useful. (F smash is useless). Ike has good range too. How so? All of the moves listed above are very fast (PLUS all top tier material attacks) besides his Down and up smash, and his fair. (All 3 are extremely good at what they do, if you space them out well enough.) Ike's fast and strong attacks... hmm... Jab (bad reach), utilt (slow, short reach) and his bair? That's pretty much it. Pretty useless unless you manage to break someones guard... if you do, it really doesn't matter because DDD's Down-b or his fully charged Fsmash will do the trick just as well. But again, pretty insignificant :XD: Marths' recovery is definetely not bad... he has good horizontal recovery and it's not easily gimped... plus you can attack with it if they try to edgehog. Add to this marth's fast long ranged attacks makes for a decent recovery. (I think SA frames, too) Like you said, Ike's is one of the worst in the game to a player who knows how to counter it. There's no way you're coming back after you've been hit. He is NOT spammy. His dance is fast and does good damage... why is that spammy? You're forgetting a LOT, especially his CG. He can infinite 5 characters, he is a great edgeguarder, he's great out of a shield, he can KO very easily, he has many options, projectile (or anti, Waddle's scapegoat projectiles), etc... Basically, he can do everything. He's better in EVERY way except power, which is hard to hit. In fact, he is the character that "has nothing going for him." I'm surprised you knew about the metagame progress = # of people playing them. But, did you know that Ike reached his peak... after a week or two after Brawl came out? His metagame has improved... 0. He has no secret techs to be discovered, sadly. (Unless somebody does something amazing and finds one... but generally speaking, Ike isn't going to get better with 0987394081723908471293847 people playing him.) There is no more need to argue. If you think I'm wrong, go here. http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=139061

(What's with people thinking CC = Bashing now adays... remember, no good guide exists without CC.) Your guide seems... biased. Your ratings are not neccessary to be honest, all it does is makes your guide be more prone to be biased. Obsidian weapons may be underrated, but they are definetely worse than Whips and SS's. You are also forgetting the most important part, which is a closing. Are Obsidians weapons actually worth using? (The answer is sadly, no. The Whip is far superior...) It is superior to the Dragon scimitar, but that's about all. I'm sorry, this really does sound like flame. :ohnoes: This is a good attempt at a guide, but the content falls short. Try adding more to it, such as Obsidian pures.