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These guys can obliterate F2P in one second. The Revenants can ice barrage you, tele-block you, use protect prayers, team on you, rot your food,drain your prayer, keep hitting 20+ constantly on you, heal from 10%hp to 100%hp in one "bite", and cure themselves from poison, and not only that, they use all the protect prayers and all the attack styles, they can recharge their prayer at an altar, they can attack from a range far beyond that of long-range distance when ranging, teleport you when you're 1 square away from them, and they can chase you all the way through the wilderness and walk through doors and walls. For F2P, that's GOD power, not even the highest level F2P player can defeat a Revenant considering they can't use Tele-Block or Ice Barrage. And not to mention with A Wind Blast like attack they can hit 25, range, 25, and melee 30+. -.-

How do you know all this?

i got some stuff that can make you see rainbows get with me :twisted: Is it called crack?

BH and CW do not replace wildy. :(

Great idea! I am going to send this URL to Jagex through CS and hope they consider it. I'll tell you what they reply with. :D :mrgreen:

He thought it out clearly. The problem is, it would still be possible to drop things like whips and dragon items. Even if they're not what the customer asked for, they can still work out a system. The seller sells some rs gold for a whip or d item. he goes to the wild. his customer kills him. the customer gets the loot, and leaves. sells his items, gets his cash. will take a bit more time with the selling and buying, but where there's a will there's a way. It would open a window for the RWT business, they're not gonna sit there and examine it. they'll take advantage. They'll make it so "obvious" RWT will not be possible. A Revenant can appear between the seller and customer and kill them both, upon which both of them are banned upon death, and the Revenant tele-grabs all the items and dissapears. :twisted:

He thought it out clearly.

NO, you wouldn't be able to bring items worth more than 3k into the wild. READ his post.

I don't know why Jagex couldn't have implemented this before. :D

Wow, including your own mom? You must be emo. Kidding.

I was near the graveyard where the zombies are and I see a mage attack hitting my guy with a 19. I know zombies can't hit that hard. Then 2 more cape and it was an 18 and a 17, so I know it was a renevant. Then I tried to run and teleport but of course the renavent TBed me. I didn't even see the damn renavent. Luckily, I kept my r2h, scimmy and addy plateboddy when I died and I only had 2 lobs on me so I really didn't lose much. :lol:

+1. =D> Simply put, you need to take a break from complaining about all of Jagex's crappy updates and RuneScape, take a big deep breath, step away from the computer, and go outside, and then exhale, and do something constructive, instead of trying to get a weak point across in a way that makes your point weaker and pointless. All in all, basically, your post is basically spam and you need to get a life. :lol:

We're talking about the ingame economy, not the choice or real-life implications of playing. Chris is correct. Many players quit because they didn't like the staking updates Jagex did in an effort to rid RWT. If Jagex loses paying members, they're losing a potential $5. If 100 people leave because of that update, it's at least $500, and so on. It's Jagex's fault, not the players. that they are leaving because of Jagex's fruitless updates. The economy will be effected in this way, because many people depended on stakers for certain goods and commodities, and because a good amount of stakers left, the demand for those goods have gone down, driving the price down, and this creates a ripple effect, affecting all of the goods end products and whatnot. Consider diamond bolts, which went down in price after stakers left the game, which affected the price of ores and gems, which also effected the F2P economy.

I agree with banning Chinese and Korean ranges from RS, but some people in North America can set up gold selling companies and still continue their work. I am pretty sure there are a couple of gold selling sites or so that are North American based. Considering how easy it is to change an IP address and your e-mail, this probably won't work. Most people with basic knowledge of computers could do a google search on how to change your IP, so they could theoretically get past the 2 accounts per IP a day limit, and considering how these companies are HUGE, and have lots of computers in their sweatshops, if they get IP banned, they probably use separate and not domain IP's, so basically just 1 IP per computer in that instance. I don't know what a CAPTCHA is, please Elaborate on that.... I agree with RWT being impossible on the exchange, so I am not going to worry about that point. I am going to research on the gravestone idea and come back for you on that. Overall though, I agree that most of your points may be effective in holding back bots and are valid and perhaps easy to implement, considering Jagex's coding experience and whatnot. :)

Be nice.

Yes, but they ARE predictable in that they do first and foremost what is necessary to increase their bottom line. And that sure wouldn't be this. They could solve a lot of problems also by creating a custom client rather than working through browsers.. but they don't, and for much the same reason. You have seen them destroy RWT. Pretty much no one could've predicted this, and Jagex's bottom line was predictable in this way? November was all about limiting RWT, but it was overall fruitless, ineffective, and futile, and only caused more players to leave. Considering how those stakers were members, Jagex probably lost a lot more than $5 trying to fight a problem that always slips past them. Bannings won't work. Random Events won't work. New methods won't actually work until you are actually strict with them. Even if it is punishing RuneScape economically and socially, Jagex might have to disable creating new accounts. In fact, I'm pretty sure they'll try to do something of that magnitude pretty soon.

Wouldn't work, in my opinion. If it's like a random event, macros would be able to complete it. I myself saw a macro complete the sandwich lady random event when I was just browsing through Port Sarim. If I had a screenshot, it would offer more proof, but there are YouTube videos of Macros completing events.

But the programmers can just reprogram their bots to combat this. They already programmed them to respond to random events, so I doubt this would work.

And what about inviting friends to the game who don't have accounts??? Did you EVER think of this??? Or were you intent on shutting them out and leaving those who wish to invite them hanging??? :shock: ~Mr. Devnull Erm, inviting a friend to the game would fall into the category of "players not being able to create new accounts who don't already have one." :D I wasn't intent on shutting them out, I was only suggesting a hypothetical situation. If worse comes to worse as it is already in RuneScape, an update of this magnitude is possible.

You're half right there. Existing F2P players can still upgrade their accounts to P2P, don't forget that...

Well, Jagex can be a bit unpredictable. Jagex virtually killed off staking by decreasing to the worthless stake of 12k/hr just in a futile effort to combat one aspect of RWT...so we don't know. Surely nothing of this magnitude will probably ever show up, but if worse comes to worse, then maybe. :?

That would be inevitable, but skillers would be able to actually skill and sell their good and get rich, because macros have prevented us from doing so currently. Also, a new pro comes to mind. There wouldn't have to be a need for newbie updates, since no one would be able to create a new account if they didn't have one already.

OK, we all know about macros and how they're posing a problem to RuneScape, right? Well, how about I propose this hypothetical scenario: On the homepage, when you visit http://runescape.com, there is a news section. Jagex Staff posts a news entry about a mass auto ban. You, being a fellow Tip.iter and disliking bots and goldsellers, pique your interest by checking out the article. Within the article, Jagex says they did a global auto ban, hunting down and banning every macro from every server. This has been going on for just over two weeks, realistically. In the article, Jagex claims that they triple-checked before banning any suspected bot to avoid banning any real, honest players. Still, some true, honest plays might've been mistakenly banned but Jagex is offering free appeals for those players on the website. Because macro-owners wouldn't bother to appeal a couple o banned bots that they own, it seems unlikely any bot-owner would try to appeal themselves, the article claims. It then goes on to say that they have gotten rid of every bot, as mentioned earlier. The only cost, however, is that no one has the ability to create new accounts.. Overall it seems like a good idea, but not without its pros and cons. I'll just list a few here: Pros: No bots will infest and slow down the game No more gold selling Cons: Prices for various goods will shoot up Prizes from random events might not be attainable anymore because Jagex got rid of bots in a combative effort New people who want to play the game won't be able to create new accounts, as stated earlier. This might spur another con, people trying to buy existing accounts from other players, or account sharing trading, against rule#7. Existing players who get wrongfully banned won't be able to register a new account if their appeal fails, and we know how crappy our RSCS system can be at times. Here it is clear that the cons far outweigh the pros. How would you react if Jagex did do this? Would you beg Jagex to reverse this decision even knowing that macros and gold-sellers would come back to deflate the economy? You also may feel free to post more pros and cons here in-case I missed any.

Here is the topic of MSSW3 results from Zybez. We pwned their butts good! :thumbsup: http://www.zybez.net/community/index.ph ... pic=967028 Apparently, Tip.it had 900 people! Almost 1000 0mg0z0rz! :P :thumbsup:

LOL! I don't know whether I should pretend to feel sorry for you or laugh at you...oops, I already did! Listen, buddy, if you're playing at school with a bunch of other people in a computer lab or whatever and they see you playing runescape with good items of course they're gonna want to have your account and or items. It's your own fault that you got hacked. By the way, it's not really hacking, it's cracking and a poor example of security and lack of common sense. Why play on a shared computer and in an area where other people can just look over your shoulder when you're typing in your username and password? Lol? Bad luck? No, lack of common sense. PLay at home with a good security and firewall with virus protection. School computers won't protect you from viruses, and a school computer with crappy virus protection and a home computer with actual protection at two different places are different. Don't play at school, kid. You say you got 48m and bandos stolen. You must be a veteran enough player to have enough common sense NOT to play at school, even to show off. -.-, and if you got hacked 4 times because of your own lack of common sense, DON"T PLAY AT SCHOOL, AT YOUR FRIENDS HOUSE< ANYWHERE BUT AT HOME!!!! -.- basically what other people said, just wanted to repeat it to you because you got "hacked" 4 times....aha....yeah right....lol.