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I'd assume it recharges along with your other stats like HP and Prayer, but I'm only saying this as I don't know exactly as I'm f2p. :P I agree on your point about making it more like the free-for-all areas, I think Jagex can make changes to that.

Clan Wars, as we all know is a good/great update in itself, and the updates that came to it were even better. But with the latter updates comes a flaw we'll all come to realize. You see, this is similar to that situation with the Duel Arena where you selected no movement, no ranged, and no arrows in the rules, both accepted and then the game would be fooled and the two players would stand there in a theoretical never ending battle. Thankfully, that has been fixed. Well, it's like that, Clan wars version. Most people I know, and myself, don't bother really reading the Overview before a Fight or what options were selected, they just accept. Well, earlier today I went in a clan and joined the fight (Non-Knockout, anyone could join in at anytime) and I saw before I joined the option that was selected under kills was "Most kills at the end". Now you see, this is where the flaw comes into play, with these two options enabled. My team of 3 people and I (89, 97, 90,90) were fighting two level 60 players in full rune. When one of them was getting to low health, he would exit through the Escape portal and come back in the fight unrestricted, and fully healed, and attack one of us while we were in the middle of clobbering the other person. When that person was reaching low health, he exited the portal and came back in healed, making it very hard for us to finish the fight even with 4 lvl 90s against 2 60s. One of my team said "I got 17K strength exp from this lol". So you see, they kept doing this to prolong their health, and ultimately, the fight. I see there are only two ways to prevent/finish this kind of scenario: 1) In-game, when you're in the fight, you have to kill the two/three/what have you opponents on the other side simultaneously/near simultaneously, because if you don't, the other opponent in question will have enough time to come back in unrestricted, full hp, and prolong the fight (which can potentially take HOURS to finish.) 2) Remove the "Knock Out" option so you don't run-in fully healed, OR Jagex can make it so when you exit and come back in you're in the position you were when you left the fight. I choose the latter idea. So you see this is Clan Wars major flaw. If you don't read the overview of the fight and these two options are enabled you are in for ONE HELL of a fight. Just a warning. Oh and if you're wondering, my team won, but it was really hard to get them both down at the same time >_< Our team won 77-29 (77 kills for us, 29 for them, because the other team had more people earlier but they gave up.) So, your opinions/thoughts?

Altars and mini-game locations could be possible safe spots. Wouldn't be annoying if you didn't have to protect from melee and you're fighting someone with 43+ prayer in an altar, they turn around and recharge their prayer? -.-

Try changing Toggle Mouse options? Go to that toolbar thing in the icon next to the Clan Chat and try changing it to 1 Mouse Button or 2 depending on hwat mouse button you have on right now. I had something like that happen to me and I so frustrated #-o

Similar thing happened to me. An IRL friend breached my account and got my Defense up by 2 levels. o_O

I went on a Bounty Hunter world and went to the Grand Exchange to stock up on some items before heading to Bounty Hunter. I was in the Forsakenmage chat a few days earlier and heard that someone else had a BH skull over their head themselves, and the person said she would report it to Jagex. If you want to see the glitch I saw myself, the picture is below: The skull is above the person in the camo suit, encased in a red circle. I'm thinking, how did this come about? I'm thinking of reporting it to Jagex as well, maybe they have some reports already besides the one from the girl in the Forsakenmage chat. Your thoughts?

Have you tried lvl 2 of the Stronghold of Security? When you enter go straight up a bit, you see a door, go left to the room where some more zombies are (lvl 44).

Actually the new chat is Forsakenmage, not Pope Skills. Whatever, I don't use lightning. Yeah, because Lightning's chat is disabled. :-/

Actually the new chat is Forsakenmage, not Pope Skills.

Lightning quit, she made a thread on the forums I think. Anyway she disabled her channel since then and the new channel is now Forsakenmage.

Lmfao. Get your facts straight, dude. -.- But the Cabbage Patch Teleport has definitely answered my prayers. I've always wanted a teleport that goes to Draynor. Getting there either from the Barbarian Village or Lumbridge was such a pain. >.< LMFAO. Why don't you. The explorer ring does have only 3 charges, he was referring to the run charges that the ring will replenish for you. Of course, you're too daft to see that.

All I can say about this update: AWESOME!!!! :thumbsup:

The thing about running is that it exists in real life and is seen everyday. That can be made to be realistic and rightly should look realistic. Fairy Rings and Spirit trees are known to be fictional. If a Runescape character ate a lobster by doing the Hokey Pokey and dancing around then i know people would want it to be more realistic. Thats just an example of course. edit:edited in a response to Geekguy. True, I suppose I was over-analyzing that one. :wall: #-o

LMAO, just like when Jagex tried to make the mining animation more realistic? I suppose Jagex will get rid of Lobsters and all those healing foods because those aren't realistic either, hell, let's even get rid of the fairy rings and spirit trees! That way it'll be realistic but we'll also have nothing to do! HOORAY!

All evils must be lived with to some extent, I would hardly call it a contradiction. The majority of players do not buy their gold, and so while a threat to the game, I would hardly see it policed to this extent since its major fallout is player QQ. My account is currently f2p until I re-activate my membership, but 30k is still a trade cap, and is innappropriate to force on members. The quickchat issue is that my account was used without my knowledge, and whoever was using it had racked up many Rule 1 offenses, my account is currently locked while i appeal. PvP is constricted, it doesnt have the same feel it used too, just feels.....wrong. 1) I'll give you that one for the most part, but the fact is Jagex wouldn't be able to financially live with RWT-it sapped hundreds of thousands of dollars from them because Jagex had to pay for stolen credit cards. Which is the majority that people use to pay for membership (their main income). Therefore the 3-30K trade cap is not inappropriate to place on members because the cap is used to prevent goldfarmers from giving all their farmed gold to their customers in large amounts at a time, members have nothing to do with at all besides the fact they both use credit cards with some method. Second, it doesn't matter if RWT has a small consumer base from RuneScape when farming their gold. The $5 that some players use to buy a million gold can cost a lot more for Jagex to replace in stolen credit cards. You admit RWT is a threat, so it doesn't rely on a number from a consumer base to be one. The fact is that RWT had to be policed to that extent or else Jagex would be bankrupt, it says that in their Articles archived from Dec. 10 And if PvP doesn't feel the same to you,you're just going to have to adjust to it. :-/ I'll leave the quick chat part alone, you are the only one that can justify your situation there since no one knows about what goes on in your account except you and Jagex.

Well i can somewhat agree. I guess it depends on where you look for those opinions. I personally see that more people like than hate the updates. But nevertheless, it is useless to rant about them. Jagex spent a long time on this update and they won't change it back even if half the people in rs don't like it. One thing that they should do is bring back the old graphics in the form of a new detail level. Although i'm sure there are complications that could arise from doing that. I agree with you bringing back the old graphics, I am somewhat of a veteran (Almost 3 years of playing) and I have gotten just so used to the old graphics. But like you say, it is useless to rant now. The best sort of "ranting" people can do is to give suggestions on how Jagex can improve the new HD update in the RSOF. :-/

@Robin Actually I'd say the amount of people that dislike the changing of the graphics are comparable with the people that do like them. What is so attractive about your character walking like a wet noodle/constipated idiot? I can see my character run with his hands flailing behind him....like some specially challenged person. But I fully agree with your other points. To add to them: @ Chaos: Browse the news archived dated to December 10, 2007 and you'll see more in depth why they made those changes to the game. Btw, the 3000 gold cap fluctuates, over a 15 minute period depending if you traded any items resulting in a wealth gain/loss. You can increase the cap up yo 30,000gp by doing more quests if you are P2P but for F2P it is always 3,000. I take it since you don't know much about the cap it seems you are F2p. You say RWT is a "dreaded evil" but then you say we can live with it. Erm, no that is a contradiction, we wouldn't be able to live with it because if RWT was prolonged beyond Dec. 10 2007 Jagex would be bankrupt, which is worse than the game changes that they implemented to stop RWT. Quick-chat: As Robin says if you are under 13 you won't be able to speak freely for online safety reasons. This is also if you are in a QC world. And for the record, PK'ing still does exist. Just not the way you knew it. It has been altered for reasons against RWT. The ranters from RSOF and the like complain that the Wildy was removed when in fact to this day the Wilderness ditch is still clearly visible on the RuneScape World Map.

And if he doesn't, think of what an [wagon] you're making of yourself. =D> If they were to make sailing a skill, I will quit. If they were to make sailing a skill I would say "Don't bump your head on the way out." =D> Guitar God's post made sense, yours doesn't.

You really don't get it, do you? They could of had their cake and ate it too. If they had of left the old graphics as an option, and also included the new graphics too. This way, new people would still come, and older players wouldn't leave. But you see thats the thing. MOST of the older players aren't leaving either!More people are happy with these updates than mad at them. People like me were losing interest in Runescape and this update gave me and older players that sense of exploration again. The majority of people aren't leaving. Hell, some renewed their membership another few months because of this, and some even came back after quitting! They still had their cake and ate it. Just a few seniors got mad that the cake wasn't their favorite flavor. Through all the glitches and whatnot we have with this new graphic introduction you actually think that? The way your character walks like a constipated penguin. The way you can't tell your character's gender because the male chest are forward. Our over-sized heads, the wrong colors on some pieces of armor, and other over-sized/undersized objects, and numerous glitches. Takes some getting used too if Jagex fixes this, but you think the bad side of this update is going to attract and yet keep players at the same time? Ha. @ Highlanders- Thank you, you represent the minority (or at least Robin claims) of people who don't appreciate the generic aspects of this update. And btw I'm siding with you Highlanders, I feel the same way as you do.

Robin, are you talking about the new High Detail Graphics or the generic one? Because if you're talking about HD read my above post. If you're talking about overall you have a point and it stands- but that does not change where I stand. As I said in my above post I don't mind the introduction of a new high detail, I just don't want the old detail to be altered. You talk about early RS@ graphics. Well, when RS2 was released RS1 became RuneScape "Classic" and it is preserved, unchanged, left alone with. But in this case, you have the new HD graphics, but lo and behold, the original detail settings are changed as well. It's like this "out with the old in with the new" mentality, you know? And Robin, you raise another good point with your "RS isn't about graphics". That's true. That's one of the things that made RS stand out, it was different from its competitors. But now, I don't want to get used to the altering of the old details. I don't care about the HD because like I said before, it's a good update for most but please Jagex, leave the old details alone. >.> @ Craven_Range-Thank you for backing up myself and other players who feel the same. Jagex could attract more players with the HD update and prevent older players from leaving by leaving the old settings alone. I bet if a thread with these points was made in the RSOF Jagex could reverse their decision, but then again with Jagex you never know. It happened with luring, but what about old LD and HD?

Yeah, and it's not only that. It's almost like they're pressuring us to become member, they raise the prices and you don't want the "improved" bloated graphics and the new HD looks so much better than the old low and high detail modes that they altered...the only other thing to do is to either wait 'till the HD graphics are mainstream, or quit. And, I don't have anything against HD, I think by itself it's a great update, I just hate it when they say it's optional and they won't change any old detail modes. Great, I can play as it is before. Oh, nope. They had to go change those settings too!

@Robin They said it would be exactly the same actually. http://news.runescape.com/newsitem.ws?id=1218 Second Paragraph, last sentence "This will be in addition to the existing detail modes, as they will remain unchanged." And where does it say that it wouldn't be the same? They did not give us any warnings. It's assumed the Low and High Detail modes would be left alone because they said High Detail was OPTIONAL, they never said anything about changing the old Low and High detail too, as in the above quote from the article, from the RuneScape Site ITSELF. When you have their word, or what you think it is, and then poof, Low and High Detail modes ARE changed, it means they mislead you. Enough of that "I assumed" crap, they gave us their word that the existing modes wouldn't be changed, and the opposite happens.

LOL This is exactly the reason why I'm quitting. On male characters our chests are so forward it looks like we have melons upstairs if you know what I mean. And Jagex misleaded us-By Low Detail I thought they meant the good old one like you said?- and what do we get? A diluted version of the new HD? WTF is that? And to tie in with your last point-Our heads are disproportioned to the rest of our bodies-it's just ridiculous. It is a beta update, but I don't think the complete version will do any better than this. I want the old detail, but Jagex misleaded us and now we're stuck with this. That's why I'm quitting. Read the bolded parts. Jagex didn't mislead you, you decided to go with your own assumption and just think that the old graphics would stay. The never said it would all be exactly the same. And even if they did (which they didn't), these graphics update(note the "up" part) are more loved than hated.For every one of you bitter people willing to quit because of graphics, there are 20 more people that love the update. And even MORE people that came back to the game because of new graphics. It's misleading when Jagex says something and then later it's not true. I understand about HD being optional- so we can play back on our old detail. But where is it? Why are we stuck with this generic version of HD for low detail?

LOL This is exactly the reason why I'm quitting. On male characters our chests are so forward it looks like we have melons upstairs if you know what I mean. And Jagex misleaded us-By Low Detail I thought they meant the good old one like you said?- and what do we get? A diluted version of the new HD? WTF is that? And to tie in with your last point-Our heads are disproportioned to the rest of our bodies-it's just ridiculous. It is a beta update, but I don't think the complete version will do any better than this. I want the old detail, but Jagex misleaded us and now we're stuck with this. That's why I'm quitting.

Well, Jagex hasn't shown those State of Play announcement in about 3 months. :-/ I really do hope they come out with at least that to tell us how it's going to give us an idea of when it'll be released. Obviously July, but when in?