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My stats are: 90 range 85 Def 70 Pray 68 summon 83 mage If you need anymore stats look in Sig. Are these good enough stats to go on a three man or 4 man trip? If not, what stats should I get up?

Very nice guide, maybe add some pics though?

Nice job man! 9/10

Some things that I think are overprices are zammy pages. I got em when they were like 250k ea max, and now I see them being sold for tons. They really don't make that much of a difference, and a damaged book does still have some stats. And maybe some of the PvP armor, but i'm not sure if the G.E. prices are accurate. If they are, I don't think 1 hour of wearing them is worth the price.

Yeah, I think it could. No arm is really for people with low def who can then gain advantage over people with higher def. In a no arm fight, i'm guessing someone with 1 def and higher att or str would have an advantage over someone with 40 def at the same combat. Really if I were to make a pure I don't think I would make it have much def, most fights I see are no arm anyway.

Well for lower defense monsters void is definitely better or comparable. I just tried this today on Yaks with full void vs full arma, and I found void to actually be pretty impressive, even seeming more accurate somehow. I haven't actually tested it on higher monsters, and I might try both at irons soon, but in general they seem pretty even even there, Arma coming on top by a little.

Nice lucky drop \ Now just learn how to go there properly and become rich :

But I don't think that anyone is really meant to just use mage by itself. It really is an extremely powerful support skill, with veng/barrage, it can make even a nooby warrior or ranger pretty formidable. If you just sit there like the guy you explain here and continually try to mage, well then yeah you'll fail, but it'll be your own fault. Mages who hybrid can easily defeat any of the other fighting classes.

In my opinion, for most stats anything above like 85+ can be high, but it really depends. I think 85 rc is more than just high, and 85 flech isn't.

The reason they aren't respected is because they really are pointless skills. There really isn't any point in training fleching ever, unless you want to make some bows to alch or something. Fm is useless other than as requirements for quests. And cooking is useless because it's cheaper to buy your food than cook it. But at least strength is useful, can take quite a bit more time, and usually comes with the training of other skills.

Yeah, that looks good and for helm, probably just iron full?

Well first of all, bring 50 diamond bolts (e) for him. And see how much extra suplies you tended to have near the end of the trips, and replace a couple of those with manta rays for easy healing at Jad. It would help if you could tell us how and why you messed up?

If you can't find one find on on the forums, you can just go to the Yannile house portal on the house party world, 31. There is always an open altar there.

Yeah, but if I were you honestly I would just try using p pots at first. You'll make all the money back you spent on them and more within 100 kills there. And after those kills, it's pure profit. I don't know how efficient it'll be with 65 def, especially since you can't wear barrows. You'll be fine either way, but it's so much easier especially for your first attempt to pray. If you tank, make sure to bring a Camelot if you have it, and use it's spec as often as you can to make sure you can keep your def high. Also in your inv, Bring 5 nats and some fire runes or a fire staff.

I dont think there really are too many of those. You could try chins like some one said, or maybe rune rocks in wildy. Maybe even the rouge cooking den, people might be down there, but you probably won't be getting any quality drops down there.

I know there are some crabs on waterbirth island I always see pures training at, and i'm 90% sure they are are aggressive without you having to run around.

Very nice guide, I'm gunna use this to help get my nooby hunter up \

Just use bronze, they are good enough and cheap.

Yeah, that'll work well, or if you don't care about cash, just go 40-80 at yaks. Wear full void if you have it, if not the best d hide and range bonus you can. Use bronze knives, and range pots would be nice too. Don't worry about food, they don't hit.

Oh no way, it'll definitely not be worth it. You won't be getting that much exp per chin like you can at higher levels, and it shouldn't be taking you that long to level up the old fashion way. You'll probably get like 800k exp with 5k chins? Not too sure.

Omg. Sell it all, and make 15 different markets crash simultaneously? You might need more restores to cover all those brews btw. And aren't all those hammers a little over the top? 10/10

Yeah, Veracs will be better than torags. If you have a bunyip, bring those as well with some summoning pots, but even without, you should be fine.

Yeah, I basically do the same, with level 4 if I can. Then i'll usually just make level 4 mage armor, and level 4 bow and arrows, and go own some mages. The mage armor has great mage def, and since almost everyone is on ancients, it helps alot. Then you can hide in the fog, and try to take their runes, which is amazing fun.

Yeah, but i'll only raise you a couple max, and with piety you'll be hitting harder. In my opinion, its definitely worth it.

77m exp vs 2m exp? You could easily be making more than 1.2m on your main, so if the only reason you'd pick your tank is fore that then your being silly.