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Probably your friend was thinking of its holier counterpart, the Saradomin Sword, which does indeed have a strength option and is the best weapon for strength training. It has the same strength & slash and attack speed as a whip, but it's two-handed. It's also very expensive, but if you can't afford it and you still want something better than a d scimmy, you can try an obby sword with a zerker necklace, which is better than the d scimmy and under a mil.

It's not something worth saving for, and not something worth destroying most of your cash reserves for. But if you've got 20m in the bank already, then you don't need to feel bad about getting it. It is by no means a necessity--consider it a luxury. Most places you can just use a ring of wealth and not feel bad about it.

Sharks, swordfish, and lobsters are all very slow moneymakers, so it shouldn't be surprising you've gotten so little output. 1.2m in 2 days is actually a lot more than the average player would get--you need to play five or six hours a day to get that kind of money out of lobsters and swordfish.

Anyone with 92 firemaking is unlikely to be too poor to afford a dragon axe. But if you really did have an adze and couldn't afford a d axe for whatever reason, I'd recommend simply playing to your strengths and chopping teaks. You can make money with a different skill.

Well again, assuming you play 3 hours a day, all you need to do is make about 130k gp/hr and you can get a whip in under 10 hours. Making that much should be a cinch for any member. Collecting white berry or snape grass spawns, mining pure essence, making oak planks, tanning green d'hides, killing green dragons, buying water-filled vials from Ardougne or Shilo Village (or other similiarly profitable shop items), and killing cave slimes are all methods that can make more than that with very few requirements, just off the top of my head. But I don't like giving moneymaking advice, because I don't have good numbers for any of the best methods, and I always feel like I'm forgetting something.

Wrong. Marrentills actually have the best profit margin. The herb is worth more than 25 times as much as the seed. That makes it about a 15,170% profit, which is more than twice that of avantoe. Just goes to show you shouldn't judge by the percentage. The real most profitable herb today is ranarr; kwuarms and snaps went down today enough for ranarrs to take the lead.

Like I said, there's really no need to debate on which is the second best. You can just use the best.

You can use a whip for regular enemies, and an Ivandis Flail will serve well as an alternate weapon for Juvinates and Vyrewatch. If you haven't done Legacy of Seergaze (which is fine, since the Vyrewatch event is probably the hardest combat event in the minigame) then you can either use a Rod of Ivandis with some Guthix Balance, or else just use Darklight, which happens to be made of silver.

That would be nice, but I'm a few million firemaking experience short of that right now. :oops: Anyway, even if the rune axe can bank more logs in the same amount of time, it doesn't matter much, does it? The dragon axe is already better, so I don't think there's much need to study the rune axe. It would be like testing chop rates with an addy axe.

I don't like that the percentage bar stops at 100%, especially since it only works for level goals and not experience goals. I want to know how far past my goal I am, too. Right now I'm going for 200% in fishing and woodcutting, and I'm not using the Tip.It goal sigs because they don't represent that.

Nope, teaks are far better. They're about 15k exp/hr faster than willows, which is a lot--that's more than 30 hours saved over the 13m exp to 99 woodcutting if you drop your teaks! If you burn your teaks as you chop them, it could be maybe 35-50 hours longer than willows...but that doesn't take into account the extra time you'd spend burning the willow logs, which takes about 115-130 hours for 13m exp. So chopping teaks ends up saving you almost 100 hours of training. You can look in my woodcutting guide if you're interested in other methods of training the skill. The whip shouldn't be too hard to get. Assuming you play 3 hours a day, you ought to be able to afford it within only 2-4 days.

I don't know if you realize the ambiguity of your question, but Berserker could refer to the helmet, the ring, or the necklace. If you mean the ring, then fury. If you mean the helmet, you should be able to get both of those anyway. If you mean the necklace, then obviously you only need the zerker necklace if you're using an obsidian weapon, so if you're not then get a fury. And be a little more clear next time. ;)

Definitely no need to wait. You should go right into monkfish from level 62. They're easily the best option. The only real competitor doesn't come until level 70 when you can catch leaping sturgeon.

You don't need a silver sickle unless you run out of charges in your druid pouch, so you can just stock it up nicely beforehand and you'll be fine. You do need the druid pouch though, since you're carrying those baskets of strawberries that will rot if a ghast attacks you. (Which by the way are probably the best food for temple trekking, because they can also feed all 5 starving travellers in the Birth of a Ghast event with only one inventory slot, but also heal 30 hp if you need to heal yourself.) You can do without a woodcutting axe because they're provided in all the events where you need one.

Willows are bad for training woodcutting and bad for training firemaking. If you plan on getting both, try teaks. If you burn them on the spot, you'll get both skills to 99 faster than if you chopped willows and burned them later. But I digress. At your stats, the best weapon for you is the abyssal whip--just train controlled with it. But if you must train your strength on its own (which I guess wouldn't be a bad idea, since it's 7 levels lower than your attack) then saradomin sword > obby sword & zerker necklace > d scimmy. However, since your defence is also behind your attack by a similar amount, I don't think you have much to lose by training on controlled, so get a whip. Verac's Flail and the Dragon Battleaxe are both sub-optimal weapons for training and you should generally not use them. The flail is only good under certain circumstances (mainly enemies with prayer or strong defence that are bad for training anyway) and only with the full set, and I can't really think of anywhere that a dbaxe would be the best or even second- or third-best choice of weapon.

It goes in the general guides subforum. Coincidentally, I happen to have a similar spreadsheet that omits some of the less profitable seeds such as irit and cadantine, and updates itself with the input of the most recent prices.

Thanks! No thanks! :lol: I don't really wanna test the rune axe, because I don't feel I need to prove the dragon axe is better. It just is, and you really can't argue with that. I mean after all, they've gone down tremendously in recent months, and you can always resell them for at worst a minimal loss.

Actually, a few hours of testing on the same logs at the same level and location for each axe ought to do the trick nicely.

Well if you're fueling firemaking and fletching, then there you go. It burns the logs for you automatically. Train your firemaking even faster. ;) Be careful though not to judge players by their combat level. After all, I am level 110...if a level 138 came along and told you willows are the fastest woodcutting experience, who would you believe? :shame: Mod-ness doesn't indicate any special knowledge of game mechanics either, just the rules of conduct. (Unless it's a Jagex mod, in which case they probably do know quite a bit about game mechanics. :geek:) You get the same experience you would have gotten if you lit it with a tinderbox. 25% is supposedly how often your logs are burnt, although I have yet to confirm that figure.

No, because you still get experience for the 25% of logs that get incinerated. So, the inferno adze gives faster experience. You shouldn't look at it from a money standpoint, because woodcutting isn't a good moneymaking skill anyway, and in any case you certainly wouldn't be using the inferno adze to chop magic or yew logs in the first place. If you're using it on teaks or willows, it means you're not in it for the profit anyway, so it doesn't matter. And if you have a source for that 10%, that would be nice too, because I don't.

Judging by the number of players I still see chopping willows or maples or magics, I guess people do need a guide. ;) I think I did mention that oaks are better for money, but they're not faster experience, at least not in my testing. You'd need to be able to chop them at 1.8x the speed of willows just to match the same speed, and I was unable to do that. But since that's twice now I've heard such good things about oaks, I guess it merits further testing in the future. Trouble is, I still don't know the best spots for oaks. -.- As for the adze, it chops at the same speed as a dragon axe, and the logs it incinerates still give you the full amount of experience. That means you can get the logs at the same speed, but spend less time banking/dropping/lighting/whatever...hence more time chopping, and therefore faster experience. You'd need a new pouch each time you dismissed it. That's kind of a pain. I don't think I'd recommend that. I was thinking time in hours, actually. #-o I have to agree about the randoms. I really hate ents. Another plus for the inferno adze. On the bright side, that means I'm getting a wide readership. And I already sold all of mine. \ Forgot to mention this, but probably the reason they're dropping is because they're really expensive now. They peaked at 418 gp, which I believe is an all-time high. So it's quite likely that it's only a cyclical thing...they made a pretty big jump a few weeks ago, so they're correcting back down again.

So uh, why not set your workers to fish, sell the fish, buy mahogany logs with the money, make them into planks, and get way more profit than if you had set them to mahoganies? Or y'know, just take the money you would have paid the workers and use it to buy the logs in the GE.

4th row, 7th from the right. :

On the bright side, that means I'm getting a wide readership. And I already sold all of mine. \

I have updated my guide with new information on dropping teaks with a new dropping method that can get really fast experience. : Pictures, yeah yeah, I know. :P "The check's in the mail," I assented. Anyway, glad you liked it! I hope this info can be helpful, this guide certainly was. ~Masky~ PS, W22 Fishy Team ftw I certainly appreciate the test, but I don't really know what to do with a timeframe of "a few months," so I don't think I can use it. :? I have heard of the Piscatoris spot before, and I gave it a look-see a while back. I thought it was a little too far from a bank for my taste, but since you put so much stock in it, I'll need to give it a second look the next time it crosses my mind. In my opinion, it sort of negates the only advantage yews have over eucs (that is, their accessibility) if you're gonna use this spot...after all, if you can do the Swan Song quest and you're willing to travel all the way out to remote Piscatoris, you should certainly be able to do As a First Resort and travel to Oo'glog. But then again, I could say the same of the Rimmington yews. So I'll check it out again. Gracias por la alabanza (thanks for the praise), and W22 Fishy Team is indeed ftw. :thumbsup: