Dirkmetal

So what if you, pick up some bones/take your own, then drop them in a good spot that has fewer spawns. Would it work? If it works well then you would never have the problem of someone being in your spot.

Well, just Google it, but you'll have to be VERY careful. I would virus scan them if your getting them of a non-official site.

Add me to "The list" 360. I main a Medic,but I will change to fit the situation. I can't wait for the 360 update! Well, yeah I can. I'm afraid about what I hear about the Sandman.

Well I meant the window refreshes not the page (this happens in all games most refresh 60 time a second) Hmm, I might make a vid. Have you tried waiting a few seconds to see if it returns to normal? Because mine used to. Also do you still have the Java tray Icon?

I don't know why I'm posting this when I know it will get 5 views, and 0 replies :wall:, but I have no were else to go so *crosses fingers*. This problem started during December of last year after a Java update (I had the time of the pegged down to the hour, but its been so long I forgot). I believe it is a Java issue because I have tried to run RS in several browsers (Firefox, IE, Netscape), and the problem happens the same in all of them. Okay here is what happens: After playing a wile I experience memory [bleep]es (I saw this addressed in another thread), but there was no problem other then lag for a very brief period. The cruiser would change into a hourglass then the browser window would become white for a second then refresh, and I was back to playing... that was until after the Java update. Now When the screen refreshes the banner add (if I'm in F2P, I had this start 3 days before I lost mem it happened when I was a mem also), and Jagex header are all that remains active. The game window is either all white or is frozen (if its frozen I can scroll up and down and cause the image to smear in the Java window) also if I mouse over the Java tray icon it will vanish. Also there is no error reports of any kind. Oh and some times it happens with no lag at all, just a quick white flash, then crash. I was hoping that a Java update would fix this because one seemed to cause this, but no. I have updated both Java and my browser. I have tried several browsers I have tried all the various Java settings on the Java settings page on RS, I have cleared all cookies, I have cleared my Java cache, I have turned off all plug ins, and I have turned on/off various Java versions. All did NOTHING :evil: I play in Low detail by the way. [hide=My comps specs]I'm running on a laptop Comp: Compaq Presario 2100, OS: Microsoft Windows XP, Home edition, Version 2002, Service Pack 3. CPU: Mobile Intel Celeron 2Hz (I heard in another thread these blow) Mem: 192MB OpenGL Renderer: Radeon 7000 DDR x86/SSE2 OpenGL Version: 1.3.3224 WinXP Release[/hide] Please help!

What how come no one has ever said this to me before? Is it some well kept PKing secret? Sadly though, it could be nerfed but if not then :thumbsup:. Oh, and Compfreak, not everyone on the internet is stubborn, and lies about things they say they will do. I read every post, lol. Your right about magic being overpowered in PvP. Magic is king in PvP, but for us who have to blow our budget just to get to 99, I wish there were more economic spells to use in PvM since I don't PK. The price tag on Ancients makes sense but, why not have something non-PvPs can use? :pray: The only places that I know of that you can make money with magic are metal dragons (I break even there, range works almost as good with more gain), and Barrows (fun minus being 2 hit by DH), and bLue/green dragons which are good money and exp. My idea about the God spells was to make the modern spell book a viable choice over ancients. I still have a beef with a mage holding a bow or sword can do more damage then a mage carrying a staff. I see the god spells as a possible answer to that. :(

Well you did make some very good points, gave a lot of great PvP advice, and explained how magic can wreck in PvP, but you have never once said how you get this 62 max. All I can gather is this: You cast Ice, then Miasmic barrages back to back hitting in a time frame to short to eat in. Am I wrong?

I'll repost when I'm done reading.

Some people think Void boosts max hit of magic, I was wrong to assume you did. I looked and there was no such spells named by you or anyone. Sarcasm, brilliant. So your saying your personal experience is greater then the compiled data of several persons? Your saying that the very Jagex game guid itseff is wrong? http://www.runescape.com/kbase/viewarticle.ws?article_id=2056. Nice Trolling btw

Okay you are either crazy, are playing some other version of Runescape, or there has been some recent update that I was unaware of. For starters you know nothing of Void mage, because it has NO effect on magics max hit, NOTHING does (save for castle wars brace). Unless the Void you have works differently then mine and EVERYONE elses. I quote the Tip.it Pest Control, guide "Full set with Mage helmet gives 30% more accuracy to magic spells" notice "accuracy" not damage. And what is this spell that hits 41s at level 70? What is this spell that hits a woping 62? Really I would love to know! The spells I was referencing to where Miasmic Barrage, level 97, Exp 54+, max hit 32 and, Iban Blast, level 50, Exp 42.5+, Max hit 25. You did not confuse the exp with the damage did you? No wonder your concept of magic is so askew.

Mages are messed-over big time. We lose a lot of runes, why does rangers get the Accumulator which saves bolts that are dirt cheap in the first place, and we get robes (Fog robes) that in the time it takes to fix them we could have just made the runes we would have lost without the robes? Or even better, bought more runes with the loads of money that you could have made by not wasting time in FoG. Why do rangers get a quiver slot so they can carry more food in there inv, but mages have to carry loads of pricey runes that they will just lose on death. Melee and range both get very powerful or useful weapon specials, and magic gets nothing? Now don't go and say magic is a special itself, melee has poison, range has ench gem tipped bolts, and mage has nothing. The only special a mage can do that helps is Excalibur (after a quest :|) Level 70 range can hit 30+, 70 strength can hit 30+, but level 70 magic only hits 25 (After a hard quest)(all attacks are done without using special attack or gem bolts) Only thing magic can so is freeze its target so you can range them :@. Melee can KO in PvP but magic can not, nor can Range. However many say Range CAN KO all you need to do is cast Ice Barrege then D-bow spec. This is just using magic as a support skill with Range. Melee can KO on its own, AND it can double up with magic. God spells are to weak, I suggest make a special on the god staffs that Koldian unlocks for you at 99 magic that when you do it it boosts the power of the charge spell to a new max of 45, or it will make you cast two spells instantly giving a max hit of specing a 60. Why do the god staffs NEED a special? Because we need some benefit to using only magic in combat, I mean you if you are forced to use a melee weapon to melee, and a ranged weapon in Range, then why don't you even need a mage weapon to mage well?. All this does is encourage it to be used as a support skill, and hybrids should not benefit from magic completely. Someone who is focusing there combat on magic has very stat bonuses to those who are not. Mainly this will help take out out of the 'support' category without making those hybrids wine that they have been nerfed. Lets look at more of why Magic is merely a support skill and does not fit into the combat triangle. The Modern spell book is based on stat damage. Filled with curse, and other stat lowering spells. Even the so called 'god spells' are merely support magic, Claw of Guthix damages def(Not very useful to a pure mage) Saradomin Strike damages prayer, and Flames of Zammorak damages Magic(the best of the god spells). But all of this is merely setting up the foe for a PK not an actual PK (i.e. supporting the actual PK). The Lunar spell book, is non-disputed as support magic. Lets just move on here. The Ancient Spell book, which is the backbone of all offensive magic. Its max hit is 32 which is absolutely pathetic compared to melees, 72 or ranges, 96. But 'no no its not about max hit' you say. Fine I can take other routes to. The first effect is poison, and its not even the best of the poisons. this is still not a KO, and is just support to help things along. The second effect is lowering the targets attack, this can be treated in the same way as many of the Modern spell book, spells are. The third is health absorption, not bad I can't argue much against this. The fourth is decreasing your targets attack rate. Now any player in there right mind would pound sharks and run after take a hit from this, which would not result in a PK most of the time (Maybe using it after you bleed some of there food would work better the using it straight off the bat?). Again this is a support spell you would switch to a better style like melee or range. The last most used effect is binding. It has be two uses; to keep your target from running, and to keep them from attacking you. But if you splash you fail, you get KOed. People don't realize they the freezer can be froze themselves countering the whole far-casting tactic. Magic is a very very powerful support skill, but is is absolute GARBAGE by itself. We have prayer, and summoning now, so we have enough support skills. Now I will say the end all statement of why magic is indisputably very underpowered: Player Versus Monster. The combat triangle is like a movie where melee is Chuck Norris, Range is Jakie Chan, and magic is the guy they go to get tips on what the bad guy is doing. /thread

Lets add in another triangle breaking factor: The ZGS, that ruins about 70% of the arguments saying that magics hold spells are powerful, now they are NOTHING. There is not one thing if your in a non-PvP world that magic can do that can't be nullified, and that's why it needs a Ko. Lowering stats; restore pot, Poison; Anti-poison, Hold; ZGS spec. Its just a bunch of fluff. Lets look at the crafting skills behind each combat skill. Melee has Smithing; Hard and costly but once you have the finished product there no need to make more, no risk. Range has Fletching; Considered the easiest skill in the game, you can mass produce thousands of arrows in a short time with out ever leaving the bank, no risk. Magic has Runecrafting; Considered the second hardest skill in the game, medium risk of dying because you have to run through the wild AND the abyss wile skulled. So magic has the hardest resource skill, oh boy lucky us. Also magic is still useless in monster hunting. High price + no Ko + weak armor + all effects can be nullified (ono pvp worlds) + no weapon to use (better for hybreds then normal players) + hard to unlock (hard quests) = Epic eail

Now I'm glad dragon weapons are slowly becoming obsolete! Good read.

:thumbdown: I'm sorry to say but i completely disagree, the write makes good points but......Where is everyone getting mage is weak?!?!?!?! #-o This i kinda annoying to me mage is not weak at all period mage isn't weak an average magicks user can easily take almost any player down in 5 -7 hits i'm not very experienced with mage but i fight magers enough and heres what happens i get frozen take a few hits get hit another time while running towards them and normally dead before i get to them and by the time i reach them i MAYBE get one or 2 hits on them and then i'm dead mage for p2p is not weak A person with a god sword can't kill a mage without hitting them..... and range is supposed to beat magers -cb triangle- #-o Sorry i just exposed my own ignorance a little bit there :wall: I do not completely disagree with the article just....about the parts about mage being weak it is true actual damage is weak but you can still kill easily before getting hit I believe the term is quantity over quality in this case Futher on in that thread what you say is disscused, and the final point was one can out eat and pot to heal any damage that magic can do to Hit points or stats. Wile its very unlikely to out eat melee or range.

All I have to say about magic is this: http://[Please Use QuickFind Code].com/c=1565f489/[Please Use QuickFind Code]?76,77,404,57668032 Read it and learn! Oh and support if you agree :thumbsup:

I can relate. I've cut down my chores to just ToG, The circus (to help get 99 magic), and Miscellanea once a week, all on one day, I do clues then to.

Well all I have time to say is; Higher Hp will lead to a bigger max hit, which will make people want more Hp, which will lead to a bigger max hit ect...

This was my first Mssw in my 3½ years of playing (I did not even know of Tip.it until this year) I had fun there even though it was Non-tip genocide. I came because I wanted to see how many people where loyal to tip. I wanted to meet some of Tip's admins in game (see if I'm a high level :) ). I wanted to help other Tip.it'ers. The fighting was just a bonus. I stood in edge bank putting Str pots on the table, and giving away 39 capes (I gave away 20 lol), and I helped draw the attention away from pkers trying to kill us going to the prayer guild (Though my combat level was to high to help most of the time :( ) this was to only time I was killed by a tip member to. So I had a good time as I have already said. The one thing that would have made organizing for us non generals easier that I can think of is that if the generals wore something to stand out better, because when it came time to leave Elit9 was asking everyone to follow him, but I could not tell who he was so I spent 2 minutes right clicking players in steel armor till I found him. Once we jumped the wilderness ditch I lost him again, but Ts_Stormrage stood out amongst the crowd so I ended up following him.

[hide=] That's f2p. Although this entire thread aside, I just can't fanthom why you would pray melee in f2p of all places, pvp is so painfully slow there already. Because it lets me win. People have lower Prayer in F2P. It got you one kill. Seriously if somebody gets owned by somebody with protect melee in f2p, they should quit RS, they're just that bad. I said earlier that no 14-16 spec through prayer will kill me in p2p. Well, I promise you, no 13 from an r2h would even dent me. If you got owned by a pure, you suck, end of discussion. Pures are so completely tame now it's not even funny. And like I said, no pure out there has sacrificed prayer so much that they don't have at the least protect melee. I'm going to quote myself. False argument I've dealt with again and again, please l2read. And honestly, most of the true pkers out there aren't even pure. I'm sure as hell not, and I find protect prayers [developmentally delayed]. No, they leveled the playing field by redesigning the combat system. You can't even use barrows so yes, your stats are so low that a decent pure might destroy you, but believe me, I'm no pure, and I NEVER had problems with pures because of two reasons; pking skills, and high magic. Deathmatch me in the duel arena with nothing but generic pking gear. Let's see if you'll have a chance of beating me before I simply run out of pots or food. If you get a ko on me, I'll give you 5m if you have the junk to trade for it. Sound good? Oh, and to make it more wilderness-like, forfeit is on, so let's see if you can drop me before I decide things are going bad and run for the forfeit/ditch. Oh, and I will record, just fyi. Hypotheticals are only going to go so far here, time to give people a hard dose of reality. I really, really will give you cash if you somehow are able to "dance on my grave", because I know without a shadow of a doubt it ain't gonna happen. I don't give a [cabbage] about a "code". It's always been a lame term. All I care about is common sense and logic, and that's what the average prayer nub doesn't seem to have. What spot did you pk at? I'm just curious... I am seriously going to invest in an oldschool broken record player. Who needs a keyboard when you can repeat the same stuff at 20 different clueless skillers because they didn't even take the time to read? [/hide] Umm, he said hes not a pure so he is arguing that he is better then pures and, average players. People seem to keep responding to his argument like hes a pure.

Notice that range hybrids always benefit more then a pure mage with every "magic update"? And this does not help magic training or boss fighting, you'll lose to much money.

There is something that I just don't get about people in all forums. Why do people say there name after a post? It makes no sense! I mean we have signatures put below every post AUTOMATICALLY so if you want to have the end of every post say you name you just put in in your sig, thats what its there for right? Just explain a logical reason why and I'll shut up. -Dirkmetal

I'm sick of hearing how the RuneScape economy is "bad" right now, and that pvp will make it "better". So what your all greedy and don't blink after throwing 20 million at herblore. If you think thats bad, then I hope you realize the YOU are the ones making the price of herbs go up and pots go down. You can say the the economy is bad, but I say how? Its just different. Is different bad?

Not surprising because there so few questers that no one has thought of combining this with that useless Lunar spell called Dream with 3* hit points regeneration.

I have seen someone in a pre-internet movie say "laugh out loud" so I guess its alright among most of you use the term, just not the abbreviation. However, if you are mature you will not care about something as trivial as some person speaking a common internet slang. An interesting thing to note is in the days before the web, when people wrote it was expected for there writing to be a more refined version of the way they would normally speak. How things have changed.

I agree with this solution EXCEPT for one thing. The immunity to ranged and magic. Ranged still has to use black armor, which lowers its stats, and black weaponry, i.e. the knives and darts. Magic also has to use black armor which DRASTICALLY lowers its stats. But a mage can use far more powerful spells such as ancients. Therefore, the Wraith should have boosted defenses against magic, but no immunity to any combat style. Edit: An easy solution to this, and all loot stealing, is to do what WoW does. The person, or team, who lands the first blow gets the loot. It doesn't matter how much damage you deal, if you weren't first, you get no loot. Umm, that's called single way combat in Runescape.