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Better armor wouldnt do the trick, cause as of right now there are really few people who actually even wear barrows armor. A lot of pvp seems to be people who are ready to die, running around in rune, and prot-iteming their AGS

To live to be 100 and still bench press more than my grandkids.

Cool. Great to at least hear from you. It is natural to fall off the fitness plan. After all, we live in a society where most of our time is spent sitting (computer, TV, work, school, driving). Its hard to motivate yourself to actually build muscle (expecially if you arent a superficial person). You only fail if you never try again. If you ever want to start trying for some muscle mass again, maybe it would help going for a different kind of goal. I personally like to set goals based around lifts. For example, this week I want to add 5 pounds to my bench that I did two weeks ago. If you keep just focused on that number, it is much easier to see progress than trying to monitor your weight (which can vary as much as 3-4 pounds through the day). This method is slightly more oriented toward strength training than bodybuilding, but as long as you still keep high calories and protien youll build mass. Its hard to find motivation to bodybuild unless you are entering a beauty pagent. I think it is a lot easier to set strength goals, so then I can focus on something that everyone would probably like (to be stronger).

So the OP wants to know how our computers are set up. His is set up for multi-tasking. Mine is set up for comfort and health. How is this off topic? If anything, all of you guys are being more off topic by trying to scrutinize me for being off topic. I dont remember the OP saying "In this thread, discuss whether or not people are staying on topic!"

I'm not sure where I said to get a 5 euro mouse. Maybe you are referring to where I told people to get a mouse PAD. Also thank you yet again for restating the obvious that the word "risk" has a meaning to it that means it isn't going to happen to everyone at sometime in their life.

What I was referring to was how godswords and D claws are already so tremendously powerful, that some people are arguing that there is no practical need for any new equipment. I was just drawing a comparison between this and when dragon was the highest and people had the same feelings. But new bosses and stuff came along and the new weapons ended up being pretty properly powerful. The only problem I see, and I am pretty sure everyone agrees with this, is that the current 70ish weapons/armor are already borderline too powerful vs players. If 99 weapons, hell even if 80 weapons, were released, there would need to be some type of innovation that we havent seen thus far which would make the new weapons not ridiculously incredibly OP in pvp. Perhaps this is what theyve been figuring out.

[quote name='Maulmachine' date='31 March 2010 - 09:27 PM' timestamp='1270085230' post='4190338'] You sound like one of the damned Jehovah's witness who come to my door every year and tell me about all the things I could be doing right, they care about me too, but I don't convert to their religion. The reason you are off-topic is you are attempting to facilitate a discussion that is different from what the OP had originally intended. Your intentions do not matter, this is not the intended place for a discussion on ergonomics. I highly doubt that you're in graduate school, and if you are I doubt the school is accredited. My set-up is quite ergonomic, and I'm not acting out of a psychological defense( this is high school psychology here, which is why I doubt that you are in grad school). What I am acting out of is anger. I get angry when people who have absolutely zero knowledge on a topic pretend to be quite well-versed in it. Furthermore, if you are in grad school then I trust you're smart enough to realize that your post would be quite controversial. Your original post was far from congenial, and it seemed quite condescending. Since the college you graduated from seems to have failed to educate you in basic vocabulary, I'll enlighten you on how you were being condescending. Since your first post you have told us what we are doing wrong, and how we are basically hurting our health, you did not point this out in a nice way AT ALL. More than one person added that they wanted to live their live the way they wanted, your response was this "I, however, enjoy my health and put full effort into respecting my body and cherishing my time on this world." That's being condescending mate, you're speaking in a patronizing manner assuming a form of superiority. You actually go on to call those with high-end set-ups "sad". What do you call that if not condescending? Now, let's address a number of topics which you seemed to have deflected from. Your first argument bordered on being medical, but as I pointed out earler, you lack a basis of medical knowledge. Your argument is what you feel you've gleaned from hearsay and CNN. You've since dropped this argument. Now you seem generally intent on just arguing for the point of arguing. Any constructive point is made in such a harsh tone that nobody will listen to you. You'll get a lot farther if you just spoke in a nicer tone. I don't know if you intended this to be a nice rational argument on ergonomics, but this has turned purely in a flame-war, which is why I recommended that you start your own thread, instead of disrupting what truly was a good post. First of all, I have not dropped any "arguments". I say "arguments" in quotes, because I am not trying to argue with anyone (except for you. you are the only person who still doesnt understand that this thread is a place for discussion, and we just are discussing the two sides of the position. you are the only one who is now, for some reason, trying to undermine my right to even post in this thread). Secondly, if you want to talk about deflecting, lets talk about the questions I have asked in my posts, none of which you have answered: 1. The OP is talking about computer setups. He says nothing about his specifications of his system. He shows a picture of how he sets up his multiple monitors. I make a post about how I set up my system. HOW is this off topic? 2. By your definition of condescending, you are criticizing me for thinking my way is the best. Why would I do something if I didnt think it was the best? If you cant give me a post that clearly answers my specific questions, dont bother making a follow up post, because honestly a lot of your responses have just been purely illogical arguments and bashing. I make logical stances, supported by my reasoning, and you just illogically bash me in return, trying to insult me, my univeristy (University of Pittsburgh, undergraduate degree in Physics, attending the same school for a one year graduate program for a Master of Arts in Teaching), and making useless conjectures to flat out deny my claims based on no evidence. I have tried to make counter-arguments to you with logic, and you retaliate with name calling. Assuming that you can answer my questions above, I'll throw you a bone and answer you: This is not condescending. This is me stating my philosophy, and asserting what is important to me. This doesnt mean people cant live their live not giving a care about their health. What did I say that is inaccurate? Are you saying that people who take unnecessary health risks still "put full effort into respecting their body"? If somebody doesn't live as healthily as possible, are they trying their best to increase their time on this world? I didnt say its what you need to do. I said its what I do. As in, "Not everybody does this" Also you compare me to a Jahovah's witness. I accept this comparison. If I come to your door and try to talk to you (i.e. post in this thread) then you either respond to me, or you shut the door and dont say anything. You dont go up to a Jahovahs witness at your door and start telling him he has absolutely no right in the world to be going around telling people what he thinks. EDIT: Also, to return to the arguments I have "dropped", I cant possible construct an argument to show you why I think ergonomics are important. As evidence to support my claims, I posted a link to CNN, and also invited you to use the wonderful world of Google to find thousands of other sources that talk about ergonomics. You simply discredit the research that has been done. You cant argue with someone when they take your evidence and just say "Nope. I dont think so." Its impossible to build an argument that way. If I were to argue with you the same way that you are arguing with me, I would say "NOPE. Sorry. Not condescending. EDIT 2: I posted this yesterday, and I was sitting around today thinking about this thread. I really don't want to argue with you or anyone else about such ridiculous crap anymore. The intentions of my remarks were merely to inform people of my point of view on this subject, and also to maybe help someone who didn't know that they could be putting themselves at risk. One posted even asked what he could do to alleviate wrist pain (though maybe it was just a troll..?) But anyway, if you still think I am being mean or condescending, I'd just like to offer an apology. I dont see why I hurt anyones feelings, but all that matters is that it happened and it isnt what I wanted.

Back in RSC, people had a similar tone. When "members" RS came out they added a landslide of content. Then updates were coming, things were getting added, the KBD was a fancy new thing called a "boss monster". But people were wondering "Where in the world can we even go from here? These fancy new dragon weapons are extremely powerful. Hell, speaking of RSC, we used to have to trade things in for "certificates" if we wanted to trade more than 12 items at a time (I think 12). And people just did NOT imagine runescape any other way. Maybe something new and "unimaginable" needs to come along? I dont know. Clearly if we add stuff to the game with the current development process, we are shooting ourselves in the foot. If new stuff comes out for level 99 skillers, this is great for them. But how good is it for the game as a whole? Do new players ever think they will even get a 99? It surely takes around a year to even max out melees, and this is quite a long time in comparison to how long it takes to max out your character in other online games. Hell, in WoW, it takes maybe 1 day to max a profession if you are level 80. Honestly, maybe we should just put the level cap down to 80 in all skills. I mean the only reason 99 seems significant is because they decided to extend it that far in you being able to "level" from the exp you are getting. Hell, I guess when you look at it, theres 187 million exp remaining after you hit 99, but nobody is saying these people need rewarded. Whats so special about the levels 90-99 anyway? Its just the area where they seemingly arbitrarily decided to stop counting exp towards level ups. Maybe we are supposed to see the level 90-95ish area as an invisible wall where getting new things stops and you now start playing for high scores. Its hard to say what to do. If the updates are aimed too low, only new players enjoy them. If they are aimed at the middle, then new players see them, work for them, achieve them, then their skills are too high and the updates no longer cater to them. If updates are too high, it is seemingly a little ridiculous to expect someone new to the game to look at something and be like "its gonna take me a year to even get the newest armor?". But how can we continue to update the game without giving new things to the people who have been around the longest? Does Jagex not want us to play for more than a year or two? Are we supposed to "beat" Runescape, and then focus on the Hiscores table? I would really like to hear Jagex's opinion on whether they will ever really give a sizeable portion of updates to level 90+ players, or if there is a certain range of skills where it is honestly supposed to be more about hiscores.

I agree with you more than you think I do. I really don't feel that last year was abyssmal. I mean, it was for awhile, but then a lot of things came out pretty quickly that added some real challenge to the game. It just gets hard when they bunch up all the good updates like that instead of releasing them in a constant stream. Also, MY largest disappointment is just the lack of the GROWTH in updates. Say in 2005, they were "targeting" a certain group of players with the release of Barrows armor. Now it is 5 years from the release of that level 70 armor, and all we can be sure we are getting is something "80+". People are feeling concerned that "80+" is just going to mean one set of armor with a min level of 80. I mean, it could be that "80+" will mean 80 armor, 85, 90, 95 in one large glorious update. But lets just say they are going to release only one set, with a min requirement of 80. So 5 years ago, they wanted to please people with 70 defense? And now 5 years later they are going to target it at 80 defense? If Jagex wanted to please the same player base, they would give us something a little higher than gaining 10 defense levels over 5 years...Barrows release was catering to a certain crowd, now 80 armor is going to cater to a younger and newer crowd, while the veteran players get stuck with no updates anymore because theyve been playing too long. Its like they want us to quit and they just want to keep adding more and more stuff for new players, while the people who have been around long enough stop getting updates made for them. Also, to me, trying to prove that the updates are "just as good" as 5 years ago doesnt mean a thing. That shows me there IS a problem. I dont want same-size areas now as we were getting 5 years ago. I dont want same-difficulty same-length quests as we were getting 5 years ago. I want to see progress made in the type of update, size of update, and quality of update to match the growth of the game's company and their player base.

Because I never really like treading food in that place can anyone/you elaborate on your/this post please? What's going on on the RSOF? I thought you said "trading food"...I was like, what kind of new euphamism is this crap?

I would say that "Fur n' seek" which is a ripoff of an old quest is no comparison to the addition of a meaningful quest that leads to a lot of the whole desert area's development. Also comparing DKs to mobilising armies is definitely not a good comparison. One adds 2 items that are still very expensive and useful (zerker and d axe). The other is a mini game that got delayed for many months and was still not recieved as being popular (and really added nothing game-changing). DKs was something that was crazy dangerous and a new, challenging aspect of the game. I hate MA, and I see a lot of people dont like it either. Plus its a mini game. You also compare TCC to MEP2. The ability to craft new runes, vs the ability to do nothing of value. Also they released MEP2 casually. They released TCC like it was a godly, amazing, giant update, changing the website and making merchandise for it. And it really doesn't have anything of value to add to the game. Also comparing monkey madness (which was a long, challenging quest at the time, and added a whole new island) to the simpleness of Forgiveness of a Chaos Dwarf is yet still another silly comparison. The comparison between D pick and D scim is decent. Overall the main difference I see is that the quests used to give us new, exciting, useful areas. And completeing these quests (which were at the time, more challenging to the general population) you unlocked a new game-changing feature. In terms of level requirement, the average quest is still just as difficult as it was in 05. But in 5 years, we cant start getting more updates for the people who have been playing the game in those 5 years? We got one population-growth-appropriate quest (nomads requiem) in 2009. The rest of the 2009 quests were no more challenging or difficult than the ones that were being released in 2005. Honestly if you want to enjoy this game the most, stop leveling once you get like 80s in your stats. Someone could easily get 99 combats in like a year of playing the game, but yet in 5 years we seem to have made little progress in the average level requirement for stuff. Also I think what you just proved is that, in 4 years of the company's growth, they managed to release content that was about on-par with what they were doing in 2005. Minus the addition of two entire skills that were useful and executed well ON THE RELEASE DATE. They didnt fail and have to implement Slayer batch #2 or Farming #2 like they had to do with the most recently released skill. Half a decade of company experience and leveling of the players, and we get updates that are similar, or somewhat worse. Why?

Their reference to a 13 dimensional universe is pretty sweet. But, I am really sad that theres no park attractions featuring "sailboats" or "sailing" something.

Bit late to the thread but this basically. If you are not happy with the service, don''t pay? Nobody is forcing you really. I can see where the money is going to int multiple updates, it is just narrow minded imo if you cannot see them. So if you have been a part of something for a long time, and the service declines, you should just walk away and drop your hobby. ...yeah, pretty much since apparently the game is unbearable w/o a high-level update. First of all, most people arent saying the Runescape is unplayable without updates. But it definitely is a big piece of the puzzle for many people. Secondly, why? If someone has played the game for a long time, and only recently started to notice that its been a good year or two now where the upgrades have started to go downhill, why should that person leave the game, instead of rallying community support to get the game back to its former glory? I also dont understand why there is always such a conflict about this. There are people who love updates, and people who just take whatever updates they get, not really caring. If there is a lack of updates, the first group is unhappy with the game, and the second group is satisfied. If there are people who feel there should be more updates...why not? Is it going to hurt the anti-update people if more updates start coming out? No, you can just ignore the updates and play your old content that you are satisfied with. Then, people who thrive off new content also get what they want. So why do we argue about this every time an update is recieved poorly? What are you guys afraid of? That Jagex will release better updates? I just dont get it. It sounds to me like the opposing side of this argument is being whiney little brats "omg what SPAM! eww, I have to read other peoples OPINIONS more?? jesus! life is gonna end!"

I disagree. You are only thinking of the game in its current state, with its current style of update. Currently, when runescape gets updates, they either "top" the old stuff, or they dont. And they tend to render old items "useless" and hurt the economy. But, all it takes is some creativity. Right now, off the top of my head, I can come up with an idea. What if there is some type of new dungeon that gets released where items and levels of the monsters are scaled to the player who enters the dungeon? The system could also change its rewards based on your combat levels, and also maybe they could make this something you can enter with a group of friends and get rewards from. That way, players get new things to explore, no matter what their levels are, and we can give players "99 attack" weapons while still creating a new chunk of the game that isn't created explicitly for people with 99 attack. This is just a random idea I came up with quickly. With some effort, creativity, and determination, I am sure Jagex can find a way to add new useful things to the game that reward people who have 99s, but could also still be fun for the rest of the world. I'm not disputing that the style of update could change, nor that creative thinking is a solution to some of the problems development faces. My point is that it becomes more difficult (and thus more time consuming) to create and implement content because the game becomes more complex with every new piece of content that's added. Your example wouldn't necessarily save any development to implementation time because it calls for completely new code, it also has to be tested, lore has to be created to explain why it works the way it does given that it runs counter to the physics of the rest of Runescape; doing things in a completely new way that doesn't follow a set pattern that has already been developed can be just as time consuming an difficult as following the system they already have in place. All new content has to fit in with the rest of the game some how, some way. That's why the longer Runescape exists (and thus adds new content) the harder it's going to be to make and implement new content (or simply update old content) that works with the old content. Also, while your idea isn't necessarily geared solely towards players with level 99 attack, it still hits the same walls that all high level content hits; it has to reward players without giving them too much or too little. If the dungeon is basically too much a good thing for players with lvl 99 att (loot is excellent, monsters are not too difficult and give excellent exp/hour, etc.) it creates a disincentive to train anywhere else and can devalue the relative value of other monsters in the game (not to mention causing problems with crowding, having too many people training at once, unless the monsters spawn independently for each player; but that still could cause other problems). If the dungeon isn't enough of a good thing for players with high att then they won't use it and it'll be a failure. Whatever way you slice it, it's just simple and only becomes more complex the longer you want that content to be relevant to players. What I meant in my suggestion is not just one dungeon that will be new, but a style that will be new. They would have to come up with ideas for the first dungeon, and write the code for more of them. They could keep introducing new armor that boosts levels by more and more, so then people arent restricted by the level 99 cap and can keep getting harder dungeons provided they have some equipment. Some of this equipment could be specific to the "dungeon" system that they invent. Obviously there would be a lot of balancing to consider. But the main idea I was getting at is that they don't need to keep finding tricky ways to balance old things vs. new things if they just put some work in and make a bit of an overhaul to the way the game works. Maybe the Constitution change is a hat-tip towards working around the strange ways that RS levels work, and the fact that you have only 99 of them, 13 million experience across 99 levels, with half of the exp being past 92. That system honestly I feel is kind of restricting them from adding a lot of newer things, while still trying to worry about it being too close the the skill level cap. If we had like 200-300 levels to gain in runescape across the 13 mil exp, I think the game could be updated a lot smoother, and the "level requirements" would be a lot easier to determine. I mean honestly. The highest armor is level 70. This takes like 700k exp to achieve. And the difference between 93 and 94 is also 700k exp. How do we want rewards to work in runescape? While the average player stats were still well below 90, we were getting a decent pace of rewards for our training. But now in the 90s, we get no rewards for gaining the same ammount of exp that we gained from 1 to 70. 1-70 we get acess to tons of armor upgrades. 90-99 we do 9 times the work and get no rewards and get limited combat efectiveness increased. Its hard to say what the best course of action is.

Bit late to the thread but this basically. If you are not happy with the service, don''t pay? Nobody is forcing you really. I can see where the money is going to int multiple updates, it is just narrow minded imo if you cannot see them. So if you have been a part of something for a long time, and the service declines, you should just walk away and drop your hobby. Also look at the list of updates in 2005 (I arbitrarily picked this year): You cant honestly say we are getting the same quality of gameplay. Also to the most recent post on this thread: I disagree. You are only thinking of the game in its current state, with its current style of update. Currently, when runescape gets updates, they either "top" the old stuff, or they dont. And they tend to render old items "useless" and hurt the economy. But, all it takes is some creativity. Right now, off the top of my head, I can come up with an idea. What if there is some type of new dungeon that gets released where items and levels of the monsters are scaled to the player who enters the dungeon? The system could also change its rewards based on your combat levels, and also maybe they could make this something you can enter with a group of friends and get rewards from. That way, players get new things to explore, no matter what their levels are, and we can give players "99 attack" weapons while still creating a new chunk of the game that isn't created explicitly for people with 99 attack. This is just a random idea I came up with quickly. With some effort, creativity, and determination, I am sure Jagex can find a way to add new useful things to the game that reward people who have 99s, but could also still be fun for the rest of the world.

I really wish there was some way that we could get an understanding of what exactly is going on at Jagex. I hope it is just something bigger than I could ever imagine. I mean the company has grown, and the game growth has slowed. I dont really understand what could be going on. I just REALLY REALLY hope that the new skill is going to be something huge and amazing. So then, maybe I will feel a little more validated at the "slowing" of updates just because they were focusing all their energy on one super ultra mega update that they dont want to reveal to us. But if this isn't the case, I want to know what happened to the Jagex philiosophy. This used to be a company of big dreams and inspiring creativity. Fortunately, the "great updates" still are nice, fun, and just as awesome. Its just that they come far less often despite the growth of the company.

Condescending? Wait, if my opinions are unimportant to you, how does it seem condescending? I am telling you what I think, you are telling me what you think, but yet I am the condescending one? If you think your opinion is better than mine, then I dont think I would sound condescending. Maybe I sound condescending because you know your health is more important, but are reluctant to make the change. I have never said that every person needs to be the same and put his health at utmost importance, and I dont think that my view is the only view that people should have. But, after all, it is MY opinion, so don't I have to think it is a good opinion? If I didnt think my opinion was good, why would I even have that opinion? I'm sorry but I just flat out disagree with your last statement. I like to serve people, help people, and save people. Its why I am in graduate school for education. I care about everybody, and I like to help people. I believe that everybody matters, and everyone deserves the right to be aware of unhealthy habits. I don't see it as their fault. If somebody is going to crush himself on the bench press, I dont say "Its his fault, he shouldnt be lifting that much." It would be my fault. It was my responsibility to help him. I help. I save. I'm sorry if you don't like to be helped. Fortunately, everyone can read my posts, and then have their own free will and decide if they want to agree or disagree.

Why are you insisting that anyone is fighting a battle? Or that its ME who is starting a conflict? I have posted my thoughts about health risks, and told you guys my setups. YOU are the one saying "Get outta here! Take your bull crap eslewhere" I have given you my philosophy on computer setup, and YOU are the one making it about a fight. I never said people need to change their lives around just because of unhealthy computer time. I just find it strange that in the year 2010 so many people can be ignoring all the knowledge that has been aquired about healthy lifestyles. Maybe you should ask yourself why you see my posts as argumentative, rude, or confrontational. All I did was compare the two ways of setting up your system, and tell you why I do it. Yet you think I am fighting. This "fight" is a figment of your imagination. My posts are intended for people who want to read them, think of them, and respond with something interesting. If this was a poll about "OMG whats ur specs?!?!?!" then it should be a questionaire, and not a discussion. Why the hell come on a discussion board then? You should go look for a board labeled "POST HERE IF YOU AGREE WITH ME!!!" Then, post after post, you can just say "Yeah!" or "Sweet!!!" That sounds so interesting.

Heres a summary of 2005: Jan 10: In search of the Myreque Jan 17: Karamja dungeon Jan 26: Slayer skill Feb 7: Roving elves (cbow) Feb 15: Ghosts ahoy (ectophial and ectofuntus) March 29: Monkey madness (d-scim...so huge in RS history) April 18: Desert Treasure (ANCIENTS) May 9: Barrows... May 31: Keldagrim July 11: Farming Aug 1: Waterbirth Island Aug 23: Blast Furnace Sep 12: Cook-X, paving the way for "Do-x" in all skills Sep 19: Tzharr area Oct 4: Fight caves Oct 17: Mournings End part 2 Nov 07: DKs Dec 05: Nardah released, Spirits of the Elid Dec 12: Champions Challenge + wyverns This was 5 years ago, and many of the changes that happened in '05 are still at the "top end" or "most used" features in the game today (fire cape? still top dawg. barrows armor? still most useful armor. tzharr area? alive and well. DKs? Still hugely profitable and the rings they drop are the best rings). We got monthly, game-changing updates. 5 years later these updates are still on top of the game. Oh, and I have left out the fact that nearly every week had an update, and there were tons of random improvements in bank space and things of that nature that were really important additions to the game. But those arent really content related. EDIT: Oh, and I just looked. The easter, halloween, and christmas updates all came on the same day as additional game content such as a real, non-holiday quest.

Did you find those months to display actual good months? Or do you think those werent good months? I thought you were saying they were good months, but this sentence: "Just seeing the names of those updates alone reminds me vividly of the complaints I saw back then. :???: " confused me.

And I eat McDonalds regularly and am under weight. That doesn't mean that McDonalds is healthy for me, and it doesnt mean that, if someone is discussing food, I cant say "Yeah McDonalds is really unhealthy food to choose" Same thing in this thread. The setups posted all have desks that are too high, and monitors too close to the input devices. WILL these people have health problems? Nobody knows. Is it a RISK? Yes. Its just risks. Risks that I choose not to take, and I would like to encourage people to be concious of them. I never commanded anyone to do anything. :roll: What about seatbelts? Does wearing a seatbelt during a crash increase your chance of survival? Usually. If you dont wear your seatbelt, does that mean that some day, you WILL DIE in a car crash? No. But is it still a RISK to not wear your seatbelt? Yes. Is it unhealthy to not wear your seatbelt? Yes. Setting up your computer in a comfortable and natural position is analogous. Again I see this as a defense mechanism. You read about the things I am saying, and you know how true it is, but you just don't want to admit what a risk you put yourself in because you are stubborn and dont give a rat's [wagon] for safety. Your ignorance towards healthy behaviour is counter to your brain's subconcious instincts of self preservation. I am pointing out peoples unhealthy choices, and because they dont want to find the flaw in themselves, they try to point out the flaw in me. Unfortunately, I have not given orders to anybody and insisted that I am going to punish them if they don't change their behaviour. My messages have been purely benevolent warnings. But you percieve them as threatening and must interpret them as something different. Your statement is based on absolutely nothing. It is just NOT off the topic. Perhaps YOU should re-visit the original post and read it again. The OP posted his arrangement of monitors, showing his desk, keyboard, etc. And he didnt even say a damn word about his specs. The original intent was to show off his arrangement of multiple monitors, and he was curious what other types of arrangement people use. I am talking about my arrangement, whis uses a mousepad with a wrist support, a single monitor aligned in my FOV, a comfortable and supportive chair, and a comfortable keyboard and mouse placed at proper height and distance. Thats my arrangement, just like the OP's arrangement. If the "topic" was to discuss system specs then it seems the OP himself is off topic. :roll: Again I feel it is awesome to be called "off topic" when this misnomer isn't based on anything logical. I present a point of view that you feel threatened by, so in order to fend that threat you illogically dismiss my posts as being off the topic. When, in fact, all I am talking about is system arrangement, just like the OP.

I havent tried to solo any GWD lately...but, last time I went it was extremely overcrowded at all times. Have the conditions improved at all?

LOL that type of argument is so frustrating indeed. Thats like me saying "Why have a law against people defacating in public? If they dont want to watch me poop on the sidewalk they can just stay home!"

Even though I don't agree with some of the recent update styles to this game lately, I still enjoy the game as a whole. Just because I complain about many updates doesn't mean I don't like the game. I consider myself a lifelong member of RS. I've been with the game since I was in 9th grade (or earlier?) and it has been a somewhat hobby of mine for too long to ever abandon. I don't get the same joy from the game still, and my original friends have all quit (hell, the friends I made since then have also quit, leaving me in a position to make a 3rd wave of friends who I will see quit one by one). My attitude towards runescape is something that I enjoy watching grow, struggle, suceed, and start the cycle again. I think that Jagex has done a wonderful job building a game that is affordable, fun, creative, and acessible (browser based). The work theyve accomplished in the past is truly great, and the game serves as a testement that no matter how small or simple your idea is, you CAN make it work and you can make it a sucess. I still remember the times when adamantite armor was a display of how godly you were at marching your 2D paper-doll man around the tiny, poorly rendered world. It's kind of like the Truman Show.

Disappointing? Sure. Useless? No. I have no problem with someone saying they don't like a skill, but claiming it is useless when it isn't is just ignorant. I mean, I hate Runecrafting but I sure wouldn't say it was useless. And I don't see how Hunter is any more isolated than many other skills. Most non-combat skills are trained only in specific areas, so why does that bother you for Hunter more than say, Runecrafting, Fishing or Agility. Yes. You make good points (as always, honestly, you are one of the most intelligent posters on the boards). I was somewhat just trying to play devils advocate, somewhat, and maybe try to find where he was coming from. Maybe by "useless" someone means "unenjoyable". If he sees the only "use" of any skill as "recieving enjoyment" then an unenjoyable skill could be useless. Also, to compare it to RC, Fishing, and Agility-- In RC, you run to and from the banks, seeing people converse, fletch, alch, doing other things. Fishing, you might be banking at a bank like Shilo where you see slayers come and go, people alch, etc. Agility, you ARE restricted to an "agility" area just like hunter, but take a moment and consider how popular agility is. It is definitely one of the least trained skills. Also, for both Fishing and Agility, you can at least use the specific areas with no threat from other players. Fishing spots move independently of the number of fishers, and agility courses have no limit. You might be seeing nothing but an agility course, but at least you can see other people training agility. In Hunter, you are punished for being around others. If other people are trapping with you, it really hinders your training. The only other skill that requires this is Construction. (again though, one of the less popular skills to do for enjoyment's sake) It seems there is some type of correlation between popularity of the skill and the level of isolation you experience while training. If hunter wasn't quick, easy exp, I dont think many people would have it so high.