Krazi

I think that the examine just refers to the quality craftsmanship put into the statue.

BGS- 17-19m, I can't really see it being any cheaper. AGS- 50-60m. Arguably the best Godsword, and of course people ovverrate the special terribly. Whip- 1.5m-ish. Right back where it was. Dharok's- Haven't kept up with the prices. Dragon Claws- 25m? Just an estimate Dark Bow- See Dharok's.

I for one will not be changing my name. Thank you very much.

I stopped doing them just because of the quantity I had coming in. An average day of slaying would yield 5+ clue scrolls, and I'd much rather spend my time slaying than running to every corner of Gilenior just to make 10k.

I would definately buy it, $20 would be a steal. As for the bank space, I could care less, as I only use 50/4XX spaces that members get anyway. Its nice to see Jagex looking out for their players. Take that Hellslayer H (aka Timmy).

Those herblore gloves at Abberrant Spectres would be awesome money. :thumbsup: And I do like many of the other suggestions too. =D>

Around 6m atm, with another 8m or so in items. Its enough to get by.

Rat Catchers was obnoxious, but MEP2 takes the cake. I still have the 4 or so sheets of graph paper with my maps of the dungeon on them. -.-

Sorry, I couldn't resist. I found out about Runescape from a friend of mine, probably 4 or 5 years ago.

Vernacular? Thats a derby! Sorry I couldn't resist. (Lets see how many people know where that's from :lol: )

Im guessing the 2 open spots are for whatever you need them to be- armadyl pendant if using karils, a 1-click teleport, mith grapple, etc. Anyway great guide, I'll definately be using it once I get 90 ranged. :

Nachalo Judging by the number of people who didn't include "konets," I think there is a need for it. :wall: I personally like Jard's idea, the point of holiday items was FUN, not for a few people who happened to log on that day to be incredibly wealthy for the rest of their runescape career. Konets

Awesome guide. :thumbsup: Using it right now to get bones to peaches, only 1500 enchantment points left. \

Epic Poem: a long narrative poem which tells the adventures of a hero and shows the ideals/values of a group of people.

Well it seems like Jagex is doing a much better job of handling this than I thought they would. GF cheaters.

Well I just started slayer again today, and got a d skirt from irons, and a saradomin kite from a clue. So that puts my net worth at around 9m. :oops: 3.5-ish of that is cash. I hate being poor. :wall:

Agreed. Good debate. :P

This thread is simply claiming that the Torso is not worth the time it takes to get one. Now I realize that the chainbody is lacking in defence compared to torso. And the always-present strength bonus. But, even that can be made up for when you get an extra 8 hours of training instead of getting a Torso. In your last sentence, I assume you are talking about PvP. In this case, torso seems even more pointless. Snowball touched on this point- everybody dies in PvP at one time or another. Nobody is perfect. One death and torso is gone. Sure you can argue that that +1 max hit will KO the person that normally would have been red-barred, but in the time it takes to get torso, you could easily get a strength level which would raise your max hit and give xp. That frees up a spot for a better platebody, such as granite/guthans/whatever.

Torso beats all regular metal platebodies in slash defence, so in most pvp cases and against a fair amount of monsters it will give higher def. It also more often than 'rarely' increases your max. It looks a fair bit better imo than addy chain and most other regular metal plates. I don't get wqhy you say prosy plate, ofcourse that will beat almost all plates if your praying, but that isn't my point, the thread is about addy chain which clearly, unless you don't have torso and hate ba is better than addy chain, i will even say it is better than rune plate in a fair amount of cases. Even if torso is better than rune platebody in *one* defence stat and the +4 strength, is +4 strength and +5 defence really worth 8-10 hours of Barbarian Assault (took me about that btw, with a decent team too). Im sure during that time that you could train your strength level and get your max hit up at least 1 damage point, along with the xp along the way. If you still think it is better than rune platebody, then consider an Elite Black Platebody, which is currently at 225k in the G.E, and gives same slash defence as torso, with higher stab defence, albeit lower crush defence. Want me to go on? Granite Plate is less than 70k in G.E, and only gives one less slash defence than torso, not to mention better defence in everything else. So is +4 strength really worth 8 hours when you could just spend 70k and get a better product?

Wow... interesting thread, read the ENTIRE thing while training at Armoured Zombies (efficiency ftw?). Mathematically, getting a torso is just not worth it. Simple to understand based on what Compfreak said. I believe somebody made a small correction to his math around page 4 or 5 but it only raised the efficiency of torso to a little over 1%, still definately not worth getting for. Dan, Torso would only give faster xp if you are in a situation where the +4 strength actually raises your max hit, which it rarely does in my experience. You also say that "in almost ALL other aspects, torso beats other plates." What other aspects? It is obviously lacking in defence, and even a rune platebody blows it out of the water. Also, I don't see how it could beat a proselyte plate when it has 0 prayer bonus. So please define "other aspects." The whole point of this thread is that Torso just not worth it mathematically. Period. P.S. Who the hell had to make a "Adamant is NOT better than Torso" thread?

Rawr.

Heh, the Zammy dudes also drop rune scim. Excellent. 8-) I'm going to give it a try in karils and see how i do. The Zammy Warriors barely hit through proselyte, so I'm sure that a Bunyip would be plenty of healing. Great find! :thumbup:

To both of the above posters, it sounds to me like he is just recording hit/miss (red or blue).

Can your other arm watch my herbs in Port Phasmatys? :P Anyway great guide, I just need to do Ghosts Ahoy. #-o

c'bow doesn't reach very far and lags inbetween attacks. fighting jad is most people's problem rather than getting to him so they don't really need a shield/book Hm, I guess I'm so used to c'bow that I didn't really notice lack of range or lag. Maybe I'll go for my second fire cape with crystal bow and see if I notice any major improvement. I liked the youtube vid of you killing Jad with void + msb. What is the name of the song on it? I assume it's by Dream Theater. Also, what stats would you reccomend for using Void? The lowered prayer and ranged bonus must have some negative effects.