I was wondering when this was going to make it to TIF. In a perfect world all skills would be valued equally, and I welcome this change which allows Runecrafting to be trained in a greater variety of ways. To call it the worst update ever is absurd hyperbole. People do love a good rant about anything that makes anything remotely easier! Yet compared to some alterations this kinda thing is nothing (Thinking cook-x, fletch-x, smith-x smelt-x). The irony is I'm sure half the people who rant about it being easier and losing respect for the skill if they had been there way back when would've been ranting to the moon and back about how hard cooking, smithing and fletching were; all 3 went from skills that were probably the slowest and hardest to do in game due to clicking amounts to the no big deal buyable 99s you can do in a week or 2 overnight (well smithing is still a little better off due to high costs but still); proud to say I got cooking and fletching to 99 before x came and tbh normal rc was far more painful to do so this is a welcome change! At this place the best rates are still only around 50k xp:hr, so still 260+ hours for 1-99, assuming an average player does around 5 hours a day tops that still 2 whole months. Tbh I find most 'easier' rants are thinly veiled greed since most easier methods are less profitable, after all consider how many rants about this easier profit free rc existing compared to how many rants there were about double speed cballs. Also totally agree about you dismissal of people saying it shouldn't be called runecrafting because you're not making runes because it's quite clear you are making runes. Like you said you still use essence and make it into runes, only alterations are you don't keep the runes and rather than holding ess to an altar stone you hold it to an energy node/monster. I was kind of suprised that i was the first one to rant about this in this topic, after 10 pages of chit-chat about xp rates. But my main point was not the xp rates . The whole concept of the runespan is just terribly bland. They could have done so much more with the runes you are making in the runespan. Now all you can do with them is give them to a wizard or exchange them for points. The whole thing seems rushed. I expected a fun new way to train runecrafting, but siphoning runes from a creature hour after hour is all but fun. The graphics are nice, yes. But the gameplay is bland and boring, and that is what matters the most. I might have made the impression that i am against any update that makes a skill easier/more probitable/faster to train. That is not true. I love diversity in runescape, and i'm sure we all do. But everything falls or stands (is this even english) with the concept. GOP was great, a fun minigame and cool rewards. The abyss was great, to make remote altars more accesible. But this just seems rushed and uncreative. Edit: about the runespan being the worst update ever: everyone is allowed to have an opinion about this. That's not me being hyperbolic, that's me and you having a different opinion.