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The very vocal group of ranters on this forums don't have the opinion I have. For you this update WORKS for many other players this update is a hinderance to skilling as they can't get enough supplies. If you ever reach a high level in a skill you will know what I"m talking about. Buying supplies then selling them to other rs players who are FORCED to overpay for needed supplies... how nice of you. =D> And if you think it's PROFITABLE to run around to stores to buy items and then sell to other players you are a bigger noob then I expected. Wow I can earn gp like a level 3 does, good update. :thumbdown: NOTHING was preventing you from getting your own supplies with infinite stock. Also vials were being merched they have been dumped. Many rs players have much better and more FUN things to do then run around to shops to make a few gp profit. There won't be enough of a supply.

I stand by my post about shop updates. When you are unable to buy what you need, I bet you will come whining and crying to forums complaining. Miniclip DID change the RS community, for the worse. Are you so touchy about this because both of you are from miniclip? The only idiot I see here is you Jaffy.

I stand by my post about shop updates. When you are unable to buy what you need, I bet you will come whining and crying to forums complaining. Miniclip DID change the RS community, for the worse. Are you so touchy about this because both of you are from miniclip? The only idiot I see here is you Jaffy.

Irks is one of my favorite words.

The community was much better before the invasion of younger mini-clip players.

Agreed, what kind of banks were they dealing with. Also there is MASSIVE fraud in the CC industry, why would they only hassle Jagex. I found it strange that you can never gift your friend with a RS subscription. WHy would that have mattered so much. I bet if they had allowed that they would have had more subscribers. It also irked me that they never had a sign-up for a year payment option. The one time a year CC transaction cost for them would also have been lower. We just don't know the truth or the full picture. Jagex says one thing, and partial truths and players rush to make sense out of their bland marketing statements. Take this "upgrade" year for example. Silly me to think they would actively upgrade skills, unused areas of the map, unused minigames and tweak rewards and monster drops. This would be too logical. Instead they are making updates NO ONE requested such as limiting stocks to the point that buying anything wastes time and involves running around to gather basic supplies and at the end of it you don't even have enough supplies. I suspect the real reason for RWT changes was because jagex simply gave up on fighting bots. Their randoms weren't dynamic. And for every bot they banned 10 more were created in their place. Also jagex are greedy and shortsighted and hated that other people were making money off their mmorgp. I wish they had simply kept the game as it was and just opened their own shop selling gold to players. Sometimes the simpliest solutions are the best.

Have you tried this update before saying things like there is actually more stock prior to infinite stores : because there actually isn't more stock. Also now you can't world hop in the hopes of getting an item. The stock levels are not generous, and the amounts for sale are bizarre. 10 bone bolts :thumbdown: I don't see one player who would do the quest, make the trek to purchase 10 bone bolts and then make their way back to sell it at GE. Also with the way the GE works and price updates soon everything will rise in price on the GE harming the everyday player. Under the old system some higher levels overpaying didn't mean that all prices were set at that level there were always deals to be had if you were patient. This isn't seven years ago the game and context is different, with the GE we will see hyper-inflation. I don't see how this helps skilling by forcing us to run around to gather resources from various stores. Maybe it does help runecraft, but runecraft was already a lucrative skill before once it hit 91. It harms other skills though. Also without buy-x there is more wasted time doing chores before you can even skill to gain experience. So I have your assurance that new items introduced from the game from now on will not be based on luck? It's easier to say oh just go there and get a drop yourself. How long should I wait years? Because there are plenty of "unlucky" players.

Oh and before certain F2P players gasp at how generous Jagex is with runes, these runes won't last long if someone is ancienting. Oh and Langer, I must not be adapting, silly me not wanting to do lvl 1-13 strike spells.

Andrew himself did state that he wasn't anti-junk. The way you played the game, junk wasn't a factor and you can care less that it's not stable. Junk did create stablility though, and now that is gone. When new items come into the game and are underpriced by Jagex, junk trades is the main way to accquire these items. Pre-trade restrictions these items were easy to purchase as players set the price. You are missing something crucial here, if players set the price than they can accept pure GP. Currently the way trade is set up even player to player the price cannot be set, its fixed GE prices. Also even if prices [bleep]e the demand will still be higher than the supply, and it's frustrating trying to purchase items on the GE that never sell or trickle in slowly. Why would someone go out of their way to sell an item to you if it sells instantly for them at max price on the GE? I just don't think it was neccessary to add another layer of pure frustration to the game. What is the point of me running around all of these stores just to get a fairly small stock of runes that won't even last one hour and this is assuming that you have done the quests to access some of these shops. :wall: It's like a twisted joke. No wonder they did the agility and sitting update now that you do have to run all over RUNescape to get necessary items.

In my eyes if you have the GP but can't BUY the items you need to play, it makes GP worthless. Give it a week or a month for supplies to dry up, then come talk to me when you can't buy basics. It's tedious to DIY or have items trickle in slowly in miniscule quantities through the GE. Loosening price floors means that now junk is not stable, so junk trading to overpay for items you need is out the door. The only thing left is to barter and hope and pray that you have items other players want in exchange for what you need. This is much worse than what existed pre-trade restrictions. Pre-trade restrictions it was one step to buying what you needed, post on forums and overpay with GP.

I saw that. However I don't believe in jagex's smoke and mirror illusions any longer. The bottom line for me is that I play a game for fun.

I think personalized shops have just changed the game as much as restricting free trade and eliminating the wildy did. I think the personalized shops update would have been a good idea IF the amount people could buy was realistic, or even generous. I don't see the point of rationing items to such an extreme level. I wonder what jagex are thinking when they change the gameplay so much. I don't think the game needs this upheavel or chaos. Also it seems with each update the player interaction is just being taken away. I liked seeing what others sold to shops. I predict that buying items in large quantities will be a pain. In one move jagex has effectively made GP worthless. Items will be bartered for other scarce items. Welcome to the frustrating age of bartering. I think that the worst part is all of these RS changes are related to mechscape, we are just being the guinea pigs for it. Things like runetek 5 is probably what mechscape will run on. Also it seems that they've lost another round of players recently. Less people are logging in that normal. ^This will probably cause another knee-jerk reaction from jagex as they will scramble to get more players. I know nothing about business but even I can see that going from 200k+ players in 2007 to hovering around 140k at peak times in 2009 is not moving in the right direction. Most companies try to grow their business, jagex does the opposite. My two cents is that I am tired of the gameplay changing drastically. I am tired of HD being shoved down our throats when so many players requested SD. Shiny new graphics are great but I just don't play rs for graphics and I don't even notice the graphics after looking at them once. Yes I can choose to turn everything off, however why should I waste my time doing this. All of the extra's should be optional, instead of the default setting. I wish jagex would stop copying other mmorpg's the new cursor buttons remind me of Free Realms. I am tired of broken promises and a laggy, buggy unplayable game. So at summer's end I find that I can't play RS anymore thanks to the changes Jagex made. Oh and if Jagex is even ever looking at fan sites, I was going to make my pure member's as I was tired of my main. Glad I didn't and I cancelled members on my main. I'm dusting off my skillcapes and hanging them in my poh closet. It was fun while it lasted but I'm done. Thanks jagex for breaking my addiction. Oh and no one could pay me to play mechscape after what i've put up with for runescape, that would just be torturing myself more.

I Gerbil, gives him 10k

This was a slow summer. The personalized shops with limited stock is probably a bigger change to gameplay dynamics then runetek 5. Just as this game is dealing with the aftershocks of GE/trade restrictions/removal of wildy/new PVP jagex has introduced another new element. Personally I'm tired of the game shifting under my feet so much, I'm sitting this out and avoiding the chaos.

Pie no thread is complete without your witty remarks. :roll:

----------------- I'm the hypocrite? You must be joking. Everyone knows you on these forums quelmot and not in a good way. Actually if you could READ you would know that I don't say only that. So DON'T put words in my mouth. What I said is fact, the bulk of your posts concern your defending Jagex and then bringing in credit card things. WE DON'T CARE. We've heard this from Jagex why would we need to hear it from you. Trust me, I try to ignore you, I never read your posts as you are someone who's opinion I don't care to even know. However when you start to pick on new poster's like Gerbil than yes I will post calling you on your crap. Notice how since the post YOU made every other post has been related to it, as you are stupid and people have to comment on your stupidity. So when you stop making threads go off on tangents for your own personal crusade for defending jagex's actions then it's when I will stop attacking your posts. And don't sit there saying that all you ever say is "facts" you make up things that are meaningless like there wasn't anyone even giving 40k out to friends when others point out that in their experience this wasn't right, you just backtrack. You are the hypocrite.

Poor Gerbil, your thread has been quelmoted. Basically anything you post, he will pick on the smallest portion of it because he lacks reading skills and then he will post something unrelated to it, causing the whole thread to go off-topic. You wrote: This is quelmot's response: At no point did poor gerbil say he was a RWT or that he missed RWT. At no point does he say he didn't understand the need for trade limits, he doesn't ask for NO trade limits but he does point out that trade limits could be more generous. Before trade limits friends and even strangers were generous to other players. Why am I not suprised no one ever gave you anything I doubt you have any friends. Also in typical quelmot fashion he picked on a tiny portion of your rant and doesn't even bother responding to your whole rant. It's like he can barely read.

Lol.

WHy bother typing anything out? Just copy and paste this as it's ALL you ever say.

To the above poster if there are people crashing other's playing 50-50 GOP this is the saddest thing I've ever heard. WHO CARES what other players are doing in a mini-game. And yet the saddest thing is that you probably think it's in the spirit of the game to crash other people's 50-50 games and ruin it for them. ALSO AFKING is a seperate issue from fixing cooperative games. People AFK on theme worlds. Don't automatically say that everyone playing cooperatively is AFKing most are being social players who want to play fair games for fun, where everyone takes a turn winning or tying and getting the maximum benefit from the minigame. Again it's bad game design if the minigame allows people to just freeload.

You can play how you want, not everyone wants to "compete" or spend endless hours on something. It doesn't make it wrong. And on merch clans, just because nothing has been done so far it doesn't mean nothing ever will be done. I'm hoping that Jagex will eventually crack down on them, but other than banning forum threads (which would do nothing, they'd just keep making threads or move cc's if the first cc is closed), they can't do any ingame action right away without first considering what effect it would have on the economy. ^ Yet you seem to think it's great that Jagex is taking in-game action to curb the actions of players rigging fair cooperative mini-games even though it is hurting NO ONE. While merch clans actually do directly negatively impact players. Jagex should stop trying to micromanage how players are playing RS especially if it doesn't do any harm. These minigame clans mean that people are actually using content that otherwise they may not have. Happy players should be more important.

customer abuse I real life LOL'd at this. Jagex does this so often it's not even funny. Probably because most players are kids, and they think they won't complain. I loved how we were told that now that the issues with RWT were resolved after trade limits that Jagex could provide better customer service to it's players, and then they basically shut down customer service by taking away a way to contact jagex. I loved how I finally thought Jagex was listening to it's players about stopping updates that are deserted the first week after release to fill in existing skills and tweak existing game game to make it useful and not deserted. But now it's almost September and we have barely seen any upgrades or updates, let alone good ones. I love how if you complain about the game, they just shrug and label you as one of the problem higher levels who are burnt out on the game, so your opinions are biased. Even though there actually is very meagre higher level content. And then they promise that high level content is just around the corner we may even see it by 2020. I love how they are all about social advertising through twitter, FB, youtube and then they turn around and lock threads where their players are interacting socially in the game to play minigames so that everyone benefits. They neglect player interaction and it's one of the main reasons anyone plays this.

They aren't overpriced. They will hit $1 billion plus easily there is so much cash flowing through RS from monster drops, merch and PVP. Longer-term higher level players are quitting, usually they sell everything and keep rares. Less rares will be buyable as fewer people will ever sell the one they already have. Whatever price it hits.

Nice assumption. You finished trolling on RSOF and moved to tipit to further vent your anger on how Jagex fails and this game sucks? Take a break, seriously. ^ Funny I find you to be the troll. 99% of people posting on this thread support it, and you are the ONLY one defending jagex. You are probably a Jagex employee in disguise.

Ravian what are you smoking. Banning fixed game threads from RSOF DOES NOT mean these clans won't just use other channels to communicate. This DOESN'T solve the problem that Jagex CONTINUALLY jumps the gun in banning something before fixing it. Also this issue is HIGH PRIORITY? Give me a break. It seems more like an April Fool's joke. It's almost as bad as when Jagex said players were abusing the Freemenick acheivement diaries when they used the reward before it was changed. Jagex has a history of blaming players for playing the game. When it's their game development that is lacking.;