Jehosaphat

Is there anything more pointless than a fletching potion? And why the need for a new herb? Seriously harralander and a cadantine would have worked fine. Why waste another 2 bank spaces for no real reason (seed and herb). Yes herblore needs a boost but here's two suggestions: 1. Make summoning pots take you over your max by 2 levels. 2. Make a super prayer potion from Torstol and Snape Grass. That's off the bat without really thinking about it. Hey, I didn't say that I think the new herb is good. I just said what I knew about it.

I got a bit of info on the new herb.... You can get it from the Brimhaven Agility Arena, as well as from monsters and Winkin's Farm. The Fletching potion made from it gives a +3 boost to Fletching per dose. No other info right now, I'll try and get more to let you guys know!

In case you weren't on at the time, after the run energy update there was a rather large and well-known glitch with monsters not attacking you at all, not being able to bank by talking directly to bankers, as well as houses and Summoning not working at all. This glitch lasted for about 20 minutes. This topic is for discussing the glitch itself and possible repercussions, such as prices of boss monster loot going down.

Well, every game changes but no reason to quit over it. I've played since the period of RSC transfer to RS2 and i loved the change. But many others didn't but are still playing to this very day on their RSC accounts! So your saying because the new HP bar changed and people complain about it that they should quit? just giving some of my thoughts out there. nice thread. - harpz - Every game changes, AND THERE IS NO REASON TO QUIT OVER IT. WRONG. If you don't like a game, stop forcing yourself to play and whine about everything that is wrong with it. Why don't you go and play some other games that allow RWT? I never said they have to quit, I said they should quit IF THEY HATE A PARTICULAR UPDATE SO MUCH. Why force yourself and whine and make everyone unhappy? Seriously. Nice thread. Correction: FAIL THREAD. Pointless and stupid. I wonder why a mod hasn't removed it. Thanks. And also, the mods probably haven't gotten rid of it yet because contrary to what we have presented, it is still a legitimate "rant"..... just one that very few people agree with.

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So you seriously think that stealing from somebody just because they weren't taught any better is morally acceptable....? Or was the word "could" the operative word there. If it was, then the game needed to develop into the way it is, otherwise everyone would quit except the scammers, the veterans, and the people who knew how to avoid being scammed.And these three groups would most likely constantly be at war. Sound like fun?

I just reread the OP's post, and.... well..... I don't know what to say. But I'm still gonna say something. First of all, I will admit that all the younger players that came was partially Jagex's fault for not doing their homework. They should have known Miniclip was more of a children's site. And yes, children tend to have less common sense than adults. However, Jagex, at the time of the Miniclip ad, saw that they had a prosperous game - a prosperous source of revenue, in the case of member accounts - and wanted to expand it a little bit. As to disliking the trade & staking limits and loss of the Wildy, which would you have preferred? RWTers continuing to take over Runescape, selling to people (not just little kids!) stupid enough to buy the gold? Would you have preferred to let bots take over any resource gathering spot that would be even slightly profitable, ending up with essentially a Runescape version of an economic crash? Or would you prefer having the trade limit, etc.? These are not rhetorical questions, I want some answers. Jagex messed up with the Miniclip ad, and the trade limit and Wildy removal were their way of trying to fix it, because apparently, the rules weren't enough. I do agree that Runescape has become more childish and slightly more cheesy over recent years, but did it occur to you that maybe it wasn't little kiddies asking for the pathetic requirements and cheesy plotlines? After all, I know many people my age who still watch Spongebob, and to me, that's as childish as you can get, short of wearing a diaper and crying all the time. And as for the pathetic requirements, there are 2 probable reasons that I came up with: 1) They're trying to keep newer players in the game, thus raising the player base and eventually gaining more revenue, which they will most likely use for better updates, quests, etc. Remember back when you just got off Tutorial Island? You had to sell some cheap, pathetic stuff before you had enough resources to get the good armor, bars, etc. 2) They simply decided that they wanted to put more time into high-leveled content. After all, the higher levels have seen more of Runescape and of life in general, and so they would want more developed plotlines, more in-depth rewards, etc. and so, they've just been taking a while with high-lvl content because they're trying to make it as epic as possible. Or maybe I'm wrong, and Runescape is just going down the tubes. "OMGZ LYK EVERY1 IZ QUITING!!!!11!!11!11!!!" P.S. Yes, I enjoy mocking chatspeak/1337speak/whatever you want to call it. Excuse me for wanting digital text to be in a language that can be read without squinting. :-#

Well, every game changes but no reason to quit over it. I've played since the period of RSC transfer to RS2 and i loved the change. But many others didn't but are still playing to this very day on their RSC accounts! So your saying because the new HP bar changed and people complain about it that they should quit? just giving some of my thoughts out there. nice thread. - harpz - Regarding the HP bar: Seriously, does it even matter that much? I mean, people are STILL ranting about it to no end, and asking Jagex to "change it back plz omgomg i h8 this is sux im quiting!!!!1!!!!11!!!!". So much for the government pretense that people over 13 can handle more mature situations and free Internet speech. :wall: Seriously, that's one of the reasons Runescape is supposed to be for 13 and over. Ah well. Did you ever think that maybe they changed it so it wouldn't look like - actually, I think it actually was - drawn in MS Paint? My little say on everyone ranting about the new HP bar. Now, as to the changes before '05, and from summer '06 to summer '07 or '08, I am unaware of those due to having lost my old f2p account. (RIP Kowabunga11) I can see your (the OP's) point that Jagex has made multiple updates that are highly looked down on by higher leveled and/or veteran players. But if you think about it, Runescape is still a pretty darn good game. It still has all the essential elements that it had back in the day - multiple skills, simple but yet complex layout, even a great community (granted, it takes some digging to find, but there are still great player communities out there!). As to the lack of "COMMON SENSE," you'll find that common sense actually isn't all that common. Jagex realized this as their customer base grew, and thus made sneaky (and somewhat cruel) methods of gaining money against the rules, and helped players out a bit that had a lack of common sense. Remember that a great deal of their customer base is made up of teenagers with maturity the size of the head of a pin. I do grieve the death of the Wildy, but there's a point where you just get over it and move on. You'll find that the crowds that gathered at the Wildy borders now gather in Falador and Lumbridge on PvP worlds, or actually still in the Wildy on Bounty Worlds. And the GE did not hurt veteran players or even merchants - they jsut had to learn a new type of merchanting. And scamming someone because they couldn't find an item's price was history, as was waiting for hours in Varrock trying to get someone to buy 400 coal. (If you miss that, then you are the most patient yet persistent person I know or have even heard of.) And that's my 2 cents on the updates of years past. Ask any questions, I'll answer to the best of my ability. Flame me all you want, but it's not gonna hurt me whatsoever.

While F2P players who hit 99 deserve recognition for that achievement, the skillcape in itself was made as a member feature as a powerful cape for those who earned that power. Jagex will probably keep the power (stat boosts) in the P2P area. But what if they made a less powerful, but still flashy and epic version of the capes for F2P? Do you think this would satisfy high levels, or would they want more?

First, you need to know a bit about the mole's drops. It always drops either mole claws, mole skin, or a combination of both. These can be traded to Wyson the Gardener for bird's nests. Seeds from the nest can yield more than 100k if you're lucky. :thumbsup: If you think that's worth it, go ahead.

[hide=reply stack of doom] The Rants section is not about venting. Only people who post a rant believe this. It's about fighting with the original poster tooth-and-nail on every issue he mentions, regardless of one's actual belief on the subject. Exactly this. Although i do have a problem with people calling others stupid, because they do not follow a convenient for the non-pker method, but the pker gets nothing or less than he would have before. The OPs view, is jaded and follows degrading logic paths. True, that is not a good reason to call people stupid. I'll admit it, he probably went a bit too far in his rant, with calling other people stupid and all, but he still makes something of a point - he is angry because people choose the method that is beneficial to them (PKers) only, instead of the method beneficial (or partially beneficial anyways) to both. While there is logic in that, there is also logic to the fact that PKers PK not for the loot, but for the fun, risk, and adrenaline rush you get after almost losing 2 mil. (I know what THAT's like....) Yes i understand that he only wants to make it beneficial for both players not just one, but this is a pking minigame, so it's kind of biased as to where the argument will end up. :? [/hide] Thank you for understanding. Yeah, it is a pking minigame, so any arguments anybody makes will probably be biased. The best way this will end :Everybody just says,"I'm not arguing with you anymore, goodbye." The worst way this will end: I don't really know, psychological warfare? Worldwide thermonuclear war? Pie eating contest?

So much for trying to make peace..... :wall:

The Rants section is not about venting. Only people who post a rant believe this. It's about fighting with the original poster tooth-and-nail on every issue he mentions, regardless of one's actual belief on the subject. Exactly this. Although i do have a problem with people calling others stupid, because they do not follow a convenient for the non-pker method, but the pker gets nothing or less than he would have before. The OPs view, is jaded and follows degrading logic paths. True, that is not a good reason to call people stupid. I'll admit it, he probably went a bit too far in his rant, with calling other people stupid and all, but he still makes something of a point - he is angry because people choose the method that is beneficial to them (PKers) only, instead of the method beneficial (or partially beneficial anyways) to both. While there is logic in that, there is also logic to the fact that PKers PK not for the loot, but for the fun, risk, and adrenaline rush you get after almost losing 2 mil. (I know what THAT's like....)

Ah. Thanks.

The Rants section is not about venting. Only people who post a rant believe this. It's about fighting with the original poster tooth-and-nail on every issue he mentions, regardless of one's actual belief on the subject. Exactly this. Although i do have a problem with people calling others stupid, because they do not follow a convenient for the non-pker method, but the pker gets nothing or less than he would have before. The OPs view, is jaded and follows degrading logic paths. Remind me what OP stands for again.....? :?

The Rants section is not about venting. Only people who post a rant believe this. It's about fighting with the original poster tooth-and-nail on every issue he mentions, regardless of one's actual belief on the subject. Were you being sarcastic....? At any rate, if you weren't, then you should probably see this: The forum itself was made for venting. So.... nice try.

That bugs me also, but I think it was merely a bad decision on title. And we've all made bad decisions before.... They have a forum for that. *points to the Debates forum* :thumbsup:

Okay, I've been following this forum for a while now, and I think it's time I put my two cents in. First, you BOTH have valid points. It would be expressing human kindness and a bit of intelligence to be using the retribution method. Also, some people prefer to PK not necessarily for the loot, but just because they want the thrill of it, are angry, etc. Secondly, this guy made this rant because he was tired of people disagreeing with him about using the retribution method. This forum was made for rants, and that's what he was doing. If you want to argue or disagree with him, then there's no need to do it here - make your own rant, for goodness' sake! Third, this really should be on the Player Behavior section of the Rants forum. There. Now, if you want to hate on me for trying to calm the waters a little bit, go ahead. I can take it.

I get rather annoyed with people who just want to argue over updates. {sarcasm}Seriously, how DARE Jagex change THEIR game! -.- {/sarcasm} It also bothers me when people decide that since you're an idiot in their mind, you're just wrong about everything. I once knew a guy whom I told that the Duel Arena (not the tournaments....) was one-on-one, and he wouldn't believe me just because my brother was a jerk to him. Oh, and the people in GoP who laugh at you when you lose. As if I didn't already know I had lost, you just have to go and make it worse for everybody. Congratulations, you just made 5 or so more people dislike you! :wall: Rant over.