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The problem is not that F2P is suddenly bad. The essential problem is that it just has a lot more concurrence now. Just as an example, League of Legends got quite big. If Jagex wants to compete in the long run, they'll have to offer more stuff to attract new players. I can understand the sentiment, since there have been several articles on this recently. Also, as I've said - this is my opinion. This is what I believe, but alas, I don't have access to the statistics Jagex would have. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know. But I feel like Runescape is becoming increasingly unknown in those ages where they would probably get most of their members(So somewhere later in school). Two years ago or so, it would still get mentioned here and there(Though quietly of course, no one wants to have that overheard :P). Now, I can't remember having it heard in the last 6 months. My essential point is that F2P is not the represantative of the P2P game that it should be. I'm not asking for content to keep long-term f2pers playing. I merely think that making the game more engaging and interesting for new players would be smart. And not only stuff that is fun it itself - I still think most new players probably enjoy their first weeks a lot. I'm more talking about stuff that you could show off in an advertisement. Something that gets people playing. Like having a low-level boss that someone can show his friend and say: "You can access that boss in just 5 hours, isn't that awesome" or whatever instead of "yeah, this game is basically just clicking but you'll enjoy it". Do you know what I mean? One thing that I would have done for example, is making "A piercing note" f2p. Now THAT would be a piece of content to show off. And you can still keep the members activity and say "hey, if you subscribe you can train your prayer faster" for all that I care.

That's fine for you...but there are too many people out there who do that and then complain how bad the quest was or that they're stuck somewhere. Skipping dialogues is fast enough atm, no need to make it faster.

99.97% of bots being f2p is definitely a lie, or an intentionally misleading figure. Just think about...let's calculate 100k member bots, that would mean over 333 milion bot accounts in general. Ridiculous...

Well, he used to have some good videos in his reviews and his jokes were low, but at least not stale yet. But now, it's just...meh.

Huh? There was music in the abbey. It was just more of a background track compared to a song. When the second murder occurs, that music takes a turn in another direction. I'm surprised you didn't notice it. I don't know, I noticed several gaps in the music...maybe my music was too quiet, but I heard the choral singing and the troubadour stuff just right :/ Would be sound settings. Choir and troubadour was on ambient sounds, in between is filled by music. This area jsut has a slightly unique mechanic in that the ambient sounds mute/quieted the music when you go near them. (So you didn't get like u do in say karmja where jungle noises play over the music) I've checked again...I can't hear any of the regular music in the abbey. I have to manually click it and even then it takes several tries it will only play once and then stop again. Guess I'll submit a bug report.

It's not faster than repeatedly clicking "Click to continue"...and a good thing it is. Quests live through their storyline, I'm happy Jagex doesn't give an option to skip through all the dialogue. A lot of the people that I know who don't like quests never even tried to read the dialogue. I will be using the spacebar though, it will avoid some annoying misclicks :)

True, and the two classes can overlap a lot. But the way history is taught in my area at least stresses the MEMORIZE THE EXACT DATE THIS HAPPENNED AND THIS TOO AND THIS part far more than the examination and looking for bias parts of history. Which is totally backwards in my opinion. Since knowing the exact date of an occurance makes you look smart and does nothing else. Knowing why it happened and how and how it could again is how you avoid tragedy. I have to disagree with the dates. Knowing the year, you can understand what the event/person's world was like. With that you can understand some parts of the event. But you're still right though, generally understanding the event itself is the most important part. But yeah, history is taught with too much memorization of facts and not enough actual critical thinking. Sorta like my English class, where the teacher did most of the critical thinking... (all in high school, of course) This. Had history class today, will be writing a test soon. Our teacher literally told us to "learn all that useless stuff". It's only memorization and not a bit of thinking yourself. Makes me mad, history can be such an interesting subject, especially if you compare it to modern times or analyse the consequences of history for modern times. But no... I know that feeling...but it either means that your teacher or the author has done something wrong. If symbolism by a good author is analysed, it makes sense and it really helps you understand what the author wanted to express.

Probably has been posted before too, but I just love her :P Though I find her better in movies than on the photos...

I'm also looking forward to the Hunger Games movie, but i can't say i agree with the actors they've chosen. [spoiler=Spoiler]Of the actors that tried out to play Katniss, i would have either liked Hailee Steinfeld or Lindsy Fonseca. And that's not because i've ever heard of them before, but just by looking at their picture they are closer to the mental image i had of Katniss. Hey maybe Jennifer Lawrence won't do that badly, but from the trailer she didn't struck me as a Katniss. The trailer i saw first was linked on tip.it (can't find the thread nor the trailer i saw at first) but that's the one i really didn't like. The trailer with them going through the woods, saying stuff about the Capitol also didn't impress me much. I don't know exactly why, it's just wasn't the way i had pictures them. Neither Prim, Katniss, Peeta or others i've seen in the trailer struck me as even up to the characters in the book. They just hit me as wanna-be-cool pretty-boys, meh. Maybe it's just me. Well, actors never have bothered me that much, but I've already seen a few things that I didn't like in the trailer...so I kind of think that the movie won't really do the books honor. [spoiler=Spoiler] First thing I immediately noticed - why does Katniss have make up on even in district 12 and in the arena? What's the preparation before she goes to the arena if she already has make up an everything? It just doesn't make thing believable - they're dirt poor, and in the arena she hardly has time to check herself in a mirror either. If it's more important to make her look pretty than to portray the situation well, I kind of doubt that the rest of the film will do that job that good. The arena was also a bit strange - the starting circle was really small. What would stop the tributes from district 1 and 2 from setting after the others immediately and killing half of them already? I already am a bit concernced of how they'll deal with the brutal scenes. I assume the movies will be for ages 12 and above...so there might be some issues with including more brutal scenes. Not that they have to be in such a movie...but often cutting such stuff out is done badly and just feels wrong. And I hope there won't be "Team Peeta" and "Team Gale" being created :roll:

I'm also looking forward to the Hunger Games movie, but i can't say i agree with the actors they've chosen. [spoiler=Spoiler]Of the actors that tried out to play Katniss, i would have either liked Hailee Steinfeld or Lindsy Fonseca. And that's not because i've ever heard of them before, but just by looking at their picture they are closer to the mental image i had of Katniss. Hey maybe Jennifer Lawrence won't do that badly, but from the trailer she didn't struck me as a Katniss. The trailer i saw first was linked on tip.it (can't find the thread nor the trailer i saw at first) but that's the one i really didn't like. The trailer with them going through the woods, saying stuff about the Capitol also didn't impress me much. I don't know exactly why, it's just wasn't the way i had pictures them. Neither Prim, Katniss, Peeta or others i've seen in the trailer struck me as even up to the characters in the book. They just hit me as wanna-be-cool pretty-boys, meh. Maybe it's just me. Well, actors never have bothered me that much, but I've already seen a few things that I didn't like in the trailer...so I kind of think that the movi won't really do the books honor. [spoiler=Spoiler] First thing I immediately noticed - why does Katniss have make up on even in district 12 and in the arena? What's the preparation before she goes to the arena if she already has make up an everything? It just doesn't make thing believable - they're dirt poor, and in the arena she hardly has time to check herself in a mirror either. If it's more important to make her look pretty than to portray the situation well, I kind of doubt that the rest of the film will do that job that good. The arena was also a bit strange - the starting circle was really small. What would stop the tributes from district 1 and 2 from setting after the others immediately and killing half of them already? I already am a bit concernced of how they'll deal with the brutal scenes. I assume the movies will be for ages 12 and above...so there might be some issues with including more brutal scenes. Not that they have to be in such a movie...but often cutting such stuff out is done badly and just feels wrong. And I hope there won't be "Team Peeta" and "Team Gale" being created :roll:

Huh? There was music in the abbey. It was just more of a background track compared to a song. When the second murder occurs, that music takes a turn in another direction. I'm surprised you didn't notice it. I don't know, I noticed several gaps in the music...maybe my music was too quiet, but I heard the choral singing and the troubadour stuff just right :/

Loved the quest - but I think there are still some design issues that the audio team has to overcome. First of all, player names in voice acting. Having the account name is obviously not possible...but I felt being called adventurer the whole time was a real stretch. It didn't seem to be very realistic. Maybe a system such as the vyrelord names or fremmenik names could work - you can choose between a limited amount of names, all of which could be voice acted. Idk, but I feel something would have to be done there. Next question is voicing the characters themselves....though it didn't bother me that much that my character wasn't voiced. Not sure if there's a better solution available. One thing I really think they have to rework are the area triggers for the audio, and having places where there is no music. This was one of the biggest problems I had with ritual of the mahjarrat, and to an extent with this quest too, the complete lack of music in certain areas. Troubador camp, the choir - very good tracks. And in between, there's nothing. Really makes you feel that there's something missing.

Have we found another source for petroleum based plastics and other goods? We could probably live without oil as a fuel in a few years, but I'm not sure we could live without plastics. There are biobased alternatives for most kinds of plastics.(All the commonly used ones, PET, PE, PA etc.) They cannot replace all of the heavily specialed plastics, but they don't need to, since the volume of production of those plastics is so small that there will be enough oil available for centuries to come basically. There are already biobased plastics being sold, they're just still a bit more expensive, and there's the same problem associated as with bio-fuel, the destruction of food-producing farmland in favor of farmland producing raw materials for plastics, fuels etc.

I've been meaning to learn French, along with German for a long time now. My spanish used to be pretty great, I need to get back into it. And English is hard because it doesn't necessarily follow grammatical rules that it infers it follows. My spanish teacher in high school had a story of how when she was in a class in Puerto Rico learning English, they were teaching the vowel sounds. The instructor actually made a mistake I guess, and stated a "ee" word made an "i" sound. So when she came to America I guess she pronounced everything like that. Then she saw a sale at Linens and Things, for bed sheets. So she went, and but she couldn't find any, so she went to the counter and asked where they kept the shits. She said I know you have red shits, yellow shits, and the shits with the high thread count..... Where are the shits? She was asked to leave the store. English might have a lot more exceptions than other languages, but it also has simpler rules in general. I've learnt(well, tried to learn :P) both english and french and I've found english to be MUCH easier. In french, I constantly had to think about which order I had to put the words in that context etc. - in English, you used the few basic rules that you know and it would be mostly correct. Everything incorrect you would learn through trial&error and by getting a feel for the language, which proved to be impossible for me in french.

A common misconception - Most popular F2P game has nothing to do with the golden Joystick. It's a guinness world record, and only dependant on the number of free accounts(not sure if registered or active, too lazy to check)

Now now, we don't need to throw that stale argument around. :shame: F2Pers have a say in the game too, even if they don't pay. And while the article may not feel like feedback to some of us, it hopefully will give some insight on what some of the community is feeling right now. In the end we're all players of the game. Ya know, Id like to think that I am probably far more liberal than the average poster on these forums, although one never knows, but I am becoming literally sick and tired of listening to the welfare cases [bleep], beef and moan about the quality of the free hand outs that they are given -- time and again. Theyve been given a free game to play. It costs them nothing. They put nothing into it financially. They play it "irregularly" or "only occasionally" or they make up various reasons to otherwise not pay for it or claim that its more challenging to play a limited free game than it is to play an unlimited full game. Yeah yeah. Whatever their reason, they feel entitled to [bleep] about the game despite the fact that theyve contributed nothing to it financially. What they don't see is that theyve been leeching off the good intentions of the manufacturers for some 10 years now, and yet still cannot find it within themselves to pony up sufficient funds to pay for the service being provided to them. No instead theyd rather sit pretty and let things be given to them because theyve sat there, forever, making demands like spoiled children, expecting the world to doll out another hand out to them because screaming for one has always worked for them in the past -- and it should continue to work for them now. Frankly, I cannot understand why, ten years later, the free game even exists any more. It was originally offered through Newgrounds and other similar gaming sites as a means of getting attention for the game. Now that the game has been established, there is, IMO, no need for the free game whatsoever. Its time that people realized that this isnt "Andrew Gowers Runescape" anymore. Its no longer his labour of love. Its no longer his free game. Its a BUSINESS with employees and it is run by businessmen who have shareholders to answer to, and peoples jobs to pay for. The people playing the free game arent paying anyones salary. Theyre not adding to the coffers of the shareholders. What makes any of them think theyre more deserving of anything they've already received? What makes them think theyre so entitled? Its fine for them to free-load off the labours of others, I suppose but be fricken grateful for what they're being given. /rant I don't think F2Pers are entitled for anything. They can have their say, of course and personally, I am disappointed when they get messed with by Jagex, but I do agree that they don't deserve anything per se. That said, I still think that F2P is far more important to Runescape than one might think, and that the current updates are detrimental to the whole game. Simply because I don't think that Runescape is a game that can quickly charm people into paying membership. It's a game that has hidden values, but on the outside it looks bleak. I, personally, don't think Runescape would be able to survive very long without f2p.

Tbh, that's something I find incredibly stupid. Sure there are more derogatory words for women or black people, but what does it matter? It's something that is in indicator for history and society, but it's in no way the problem itself. Should we think of swearwords for men just so have the same amount of swearwords for both genders? The same thing for mankind - it's not derogatory to women today, only if you let it be. It's something that is that way because of history, so what does it matter today?

Yeah, the picture is too big, that's why I - mostly - agree with the article about F2P, it's something I've always believed in - but I'm not sure if it's also really true. Keep in mind that Jagex has access to a lot more statistics than we do - there might be a reason for them doing this. Also, the argument about the 99.97% bots in f2p was a bit skewed, as the main factor of the price rise for sharks after the bot update is how the ratio of players:bots fishing sharks is, not how many bots there are in f2p. The number is still a lie(Just imagine it - with only 100k member bots, that would mean 333 million f2p bots), but the argument wasn't that sound. Article about firemaking - I agree that firemaking would need a revamp that goes beyond just a new skilling method. The question however is how easy it is to do that with the whole skill already being in-game. The article about the favourite updates was an interesting read :)

What I find interesting is the fact that those who are upset about the demodding in a way actually support Jagex's argument for doing it. As several Jmods said, every Fmod is allowed to voice his opinion. Their guidelines only state that if it's extremely negative, they should post it on an alternate account. The fact that people are upset so much over fmods not being able to post negative criticism on their fmod account only shows that fmods are not perceived as absolutely regular players. They do represent Jagex, and (what I find more important) they also represent other Fmods. Now, the Jiblix affaire can be called controversial as he got demodded over a youtube video, and we don't know if that was made clear in the guidelines(Or at least, I don't know) The demodding of Ken genosis though, I don't see the issue. He was(or should have been) fully aware of the consequences, his thread was very negative and not really constructive.

I spend most of my time helping in my penguin hunting clan. I find it to be a really enjoyable activity, and the community is very friendly there, plus I've made a lot of friends there. Apart from that, I complete quests whenever they come out and ocasionally train a skill for something I'd like to have, but I get bored quickly. I can definitely say I would long have quit if not for penguins :P

No it would be 20k new members, if the HS is displaying properly. I wouldn't bet on that honestly :P Give it fourteen days, until all the accounts that had membership before the update are removed and then we'll see. About the topic of RWT companies using P2P bots because they're more efficient: You have to consider the fact that the gathering account may be banned for botting. If a free account is banned, you only lose the resources he's gathered, so you're back to zero. If a P2P account is banned, you lose the resources and the membership money, so you're in the negative. Especially with far fewer bots running(which hopefully should mean bots getting banned faster too) I think this is pretty relevant. I dislike a lot of the updates done to F2P, but I think this is a genuinely good one. It doesn't hurt F2Pers and reduces RWT.

Yes!! Finally someone who also thinks the final book is the best! I was reading a bit through comments on the trailer for the movie and everyone seemed to think the third one was horrible <_< I think Suzanne Collins has done an incredible job with describing katniss' psyche, much better than I would have expected to find in a youth fantasy novel. I'm generally a sucker for Fantasy, Wheel of Time and A song of Ice and fire being my favourites(although I found the last volume to be a bit lacking) Terry Pratchett is always awesome, and I've been reading some Stephen King too lately. Favourite book of all times would be The Gathering Storm in the wheel of time series(although that obviously only works if you read the previous ones ;)). The scene of Rand on Dragonmount was so incredibly touching and gripping.... When I have to be honest, I have to say I never really was able to understand the popularity of Harry Potter for Adults and older adolescents - sure, they're good books, and I liked them a lot when I read them as a child too - but then again, they'r simply childrens' books, and both story and language reflect that. Nothing against that of course, I just never was able to really understand why so many people like it ;)

I had the same problem. Either play in fixed mode or full screen; I switched to fixed. I've heard that using the RS client fixes the problems for resizeable, but I have yet to try it. Lol the client is not available in my area... That's some shit. :mellow: It's weird because even if I unmaximize my window with RS in it the tabs are still cut off in resizeable... Do you live in Texas? Apparently the official RS Client isn't available there due to them having difficulty securing their IP in that particular state. I've heard it was illegal in Texas for some strange reason >.> It's a bit of a bittersweet story, though. Many of us have invested lots of time and money into this game and company to see it turn out like...this. No one here in their wildest dreams thought that Jagex would go through with such a controversial change [to the high scores] after hearing tons of feedback against it...but that's what happens. You have a point. I realize that RS/Jagex isn't worth stressing over. However, that doesn't mean that I won't call them out every time they do something so eye-gouging stupid. Positives? The only handful of positives with the update may be the leprechaun's limits being relaxed and a "new" forum. Outside of that, there is a staggering amount of negatives. - Runehead and Runetracker, both of which make use of the high scores, cannot be used effectively anymore, unless clans are strictly P2P. - Dynamic signatures everywhere cease to operate on a huge chunk of the community. - Long-standing "pure F2P" players (one of which was acknowledged by MMG himself) can no longer display this amazing accomplishment. So you may have to forgive the community for a few days if it seems like the attitude is negative. I agree with Makoto here...especially since Jagex has shown some positive trends recently(Bot busting, finally doing something about dicing, increasing Jmod presence on the forums etc.), those moves make it all the more frustrating. Heck, I'm not F2P and I wouldn't play f2p even if I unsubscribed, but it still bothers me. But I guess with fewer than 600k subscribers and competition ever increasing, Jagex is getting desperate....

You should watch a live video of Children of Bodom - When he's talking to the crowd, the lead singer literally says "[bleep]ing" every 4 words or so >.>. I can't say I like swearing very much. Sure this might be prejudice a bit, but I find that those throwing around swear words are usually very immature, quick to insult other people and generally just annoying. It's not the swear words themselves, it's the context in which they're used* - but those who don't intend to use them in a derogatory sense usually don't use them at all or only very sparingly. Nothing wrong with saying [bleep] when you die, but it really shouldn't get over the top. I have to say I'm also quite happy for the filters within Runescape and also the tip.it forums - I know I'm free to occasionally use swear words when I want to emphasize something without having to worry about someone deeming it offensive. * I know a lot of examples here...I'm a rank in the penguin chats in w60, and we are relatively strict on language, simply because keeping it clean makes the time that much more enjoyable in the chats. Anyways, at times I had discussion over several dozens of pms why a "What the F" wasn't appropriate(He said something along the lines of "Why the F are so few people calling" or something like that). The guy kept saying that since he only said "f", it was not a swear and since it was not a swear word, I had no reason to tell him to tone down his language :rolleyes:

Exactly. Making arguments why that shouldn't be possible is easy enough(for a good physicist :P) but so far, there's been no explanation of the error, and therefore this hasn't been debunked yet. I'm also not quite why everyone thinks this will completely overthrow physics and be a headache to everyone...We're still doing a lot of stuff with Newton. If Einstein's theory is proven to be wrong, we'll still use his for most stuff, there just needs to be a new theory developed for the few exceptions. Of course this is huge news for scientiests, but it's not like it would overthrow[\i] a lot of things. Tbh, anyone who thought that Einstein was *correct* and that's it has a bit of a naive view anyway. We'll never know how exactly the world works, and every theory will eventually be replaced with a slightly more accurate one. We're just approximating to the raw truth :P