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But great crimsons, decent prayer exp and almost free. It's more efficient then skeletons at most incomes.

There are better ways to make money but it is okay I guess.

Friends grow apart, that's life. Once you can tell yourself that you've done everything you can to preserve both your dignity and your friendship then if you still experience problems it might be time to let go for a while. Dignity needs to come first though. Do you want to be friends because you don't think it's possible to be involved on a higher level or are you just not interested? It sounds like you might be interested in more with her even if you deny it. Either way the same applies, just keep your dignity intact and whatever happens you can take the moral high ground in your own mind and in the minds of others.

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Yep. The flotilla in which Israeli soldiers were attacked on for no reason. You just showed me how one sided you are just from that 1 sentence. Well done. It was in international waters. Israelis boarded and killed 9 activists including one American. Whatever, UNHCR and other international organizations found after investigating the incident that it violated international law. Not that international law ever mattered to the Israelis. In fact according to maritime law the blockade on Gaza is illegal but that's a whole different story and not one I think you want to bring up. Edit: Ninja'd. And thanks for posting Michel, nice to hear one more voice of reason on this thread.

Ohhhhh that flotilla of aid to Gaza that Israeli special forces shot up. Cool. Thanks for making the show possible. :thumbup:

10% of the people in the King David hotel were military, it was also full of innocents. The Zionists used the same tactics as the Palestinians currently use. Stop denying it, it's a fact. I don't use the term Zionist as an insult, like I said earlier, I support a Jewish state, just not in an area where it displaces millions of innocents. I use the term Zionist because it accurately describes what the invaders are. A bunch of people have posted music videos in this tread, this is a beautiful song about the Palestinian people striving for freedom in Gaza. Enjoy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFqSJ-M4qds

Chinning nechs is the best (sum exp and prayer exp). Chinning skeles is most afk. You choose.

The deference between the Jews and the Palestinians is, the Jews they went after British soldiers which is basic war fare take down the enemy's army. The Palestinians have gone onto Israel blowing themselves up to cause civilian deaths, that is not basic warfare. Sounds ironic if you leave we won't fight you, if you don't we will fight you, If you leave we can't fight you because you aren't there to fight. Okay, stop referring to the Zionists as the Jews. Not all Jews support the state of Israel so it is very incorrect to refer to the Zionists as "the Jews." The Zionists did not only kill British and did not only kill Soliders. I refer again to the blowing up of the King David Hotel in Jerusalem. Ninety-two persons lost their lives in the stealthy attack, 45 were injured, among whom there were many high officials, junior officers and office personnel, both men and women. The King David Hotel was used as an office housing the Secretariat of the Palestine Government and British Army Headquarters. The attack was made on 22 July at about 12 o’clock noon when offices are usually in full swing. The attackers, disguised as milkmen, carried the explosives in milk containers, placed them in the basement of the Hotel and ran away. British, Arabs, Jews, Greeks, Armenians; senior officers, police, my orderly, my chauffeur, messengers, guards, men and women-- young and old-- were killed when the hotel was bombed. They were not only British soldiers. It remains the single deadliest bombing made by any party within the area of occupied Palestine. Ironic that the Zionists are responsible for the deadliest attack when they condemn the Palestinians so much. @ The_Gabe, I'm sure the Palestinians in camps behind barbed wire find the Israeli government to be cruel and oppressive. So would those behind the infamous Israeli wall. Thus that would qualify the Israelis as being tyrannical to towards the Palestinians.

Ezkaton, I have to ask because it isn't entirely clear. What do you want from her? A friend? A girlfriend? Once you know what you want then you can figure out what to do.

The Americans defended themselves from the tyranny of the British. Palestinians are defending themselves from the tyranny of Jewish occupation [see what I did there?] Well done. =D>

@Isreal63 on the previous page The Zionists used terror tactics in order to force the British to give up Palestine to them. My point is the 'terrorism' is a very loose conflict. Currently it seems that it is what superpowers label any aggression towards them. But lets face it, the Americans uses terror tactics to gain independence, the Zionists used them to form their states, and the Palestinians use them to defend their homes. Being a terrorist isn't inherently bad. Not all demolishings are for those reasons. That is the problem. And the ones that aren't are not within international law. Multiple international organizations agree on this including the UN, Red Cross, Amnesty International and the Human Rights Watch. Are they all wrong? Edit: @ The above. The Palestinians have made it pretty clear that if the Zionists left Palestine they would cease their aggression. The Zionists don't so they are justified in their aggression. Isn't that the same thing?

The Zionists terrorized the British to get them to sign the Balfour declaration. One of the most notable terrorist acts committed by the Zionists was the King David Hotel bombing. Of course Zionists prefer to talk about the holocaust rather then their history as terrorists. With these 5 reason are there any problems? Well the issue is that whatever the IDF uses to justify house demolition, it remains that they demolish homes for reasons not cited there and that is a violation of international law.

I'm busy right now so I'll just reply to the video Gabe posted. It's propaganda, I checked the profile of the person who posted it. Here is a quote from his profile on youtube; "So for the sake of honesty, let's not use the word "Palestinian" any more to describe these delightful folks, who dance for joy at our defeats until someone points out they're being taped. Instead, let's call them what they are: "Other Arabs Who Can't Accomplish Anything In Life And Would Rather Wrap Themselves In The Seductive Melodrama Of Eternal Struggle And Death." You thought Iranians denying the holocaust and the existence of Israel are stupid? Meet the Israeli who denies the existence of the Palestinian people. I can't take this video seriously because I have no idea who made it, what their credentials are to say the types of things they said, or really anything that shows that the video is valid. I said before ignorance and blindness are the plagues of the Middle East. I think the person who uploaded the video and the video itself are very good examples of using a few minutes to categorize millions of people. I'll reply to the rest later, Das beat me to some of it.

I never claimed that they weren't officially declared a terrorist group. My point is that fighting Hezbollah is a bit of a bogus reason to target civilian areas. Hezbollah are not only a militant group. They also fund schools, hospitals, mosques, they run a judicial system. Hezbollah is a butcher, a doctor, a construction worker, a child. It's the same as any other political party only with a militant agenda. Fighting Hezbollah in a civilian area is wrong agree but just because terrorist hide behind civilians doesn't mean that Israel can't attack and kill the terrorist. Israel has a right to defend itself even if a terrorist is hiding in a civilian areas, it wasn't Israel who chose the battleground it was the terrorist organization called Hezbollah . It is a terrorist organization with a political agenda to destroy Israel. The fact that Hezbollah is a political party means of course they are going to be based in populated areas. It's not really an excuse. They are near civilians because they need to be to preform their primary role as a political organization. Like I said before, Hezbollah builds hospitals and schools for the Lebanese. Israel has a right to defend itself but not to kill innocent civilians. And while we are on the topic of human shields, there are many stories about Iaraeli use of human sheilds. Here is one such story. From the article... This is not an isolated incident, I can provide more examples if you want. Also, you still didn't refute any of what I said concerning house demolishing being against international law. Especially the quotes by Israelis themselves saying it is detrimental.

Made me lol, thanks for the article. :thumbup:

That's exactly the point I'm trying to make. Thanks for the great example. Edit: Can't wait for his next response. ;)

Exactly, the best use is for Jad or maybe Nex but I'm not sure as I don't have experience there.

At your levels you shouldn't be killing blues either for money. Try TDS or my new favorite, revs.

I get very tired of responding to you, but I figure it's a good demonstration to all the people here to do so. Like 1,400 views of this thread so far? If my posts manage to shift the viewpoint of even one person then it's worth it. So where shall I start... You are wrong a strait out lie here is a link to the Usa's list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations. Hezbollah is on that list so is Hamas, Hezbollah is part of the government in Lebanon but just because it is part of government doesn't mean its not a terrorist organization. You can't say that some can be terrorist in the organization and some can't be. Hezbollah started the 2006 Lebanon war, by the way don't say Israel started Hezbollah did by kidnapping Israeli soldiers. After proving that Hezbollah is a terrorist organization with the goal to destroy Israel, Israel has the right to defend itself so yes it is allowed to bomb the headquarters of a terrorist organization even if the built it in the city so if Israel were to attack it there would be civilian deaths. That wasn't Israel fault it is Hezbollah fault. By the when you bring up America they started the war against a country not a terrorist organization after the took control they had to fight the terrorist but when they invaded they were fighting a army that had on uniforms not civilian clothes like Hezbollah the terrorist organization I never claimed that they weren't officially declared a terrorist group. My point is that fighting Hezbollah is a bit of a bogus reason to target civilian areas. Hezbollah are not only a militant group. They also fund schools, hospitals, mosques, they run a judicial system. Hezbollah is a butcher, a doctor, a construction worker, a child. It's the same as any other political party only with a militant agenda. I never said that they didn't start the 2006 war. I did however claim that the Israeli response was disproportionate to the Lebanese aggression. You have offered no counter to this. Lebanon killed three Israeli soldiers and captured two. During the resulting conflict 1,200 Lebanese were killed and 160 Israelis were killed. Most Lebanese were civilians. Here is a link showing hundreds of cases of Israeli government agression towards civilians. I warn you, some of the stuff on that link is pretty graphic. Laser guided missiles and "smart bombs" are very precise. They rarely miss their target. When residential buildings, schools or hospitals are targeted, this means civilians will be killed. These actions, ordered by Israel's IDF are quite deliberate. They are carried out with meticulous accuracy. This is the Israeli government which allows and condones these types of actions. I strongly believe that this type of disproportionate aggression is morally wrong. More children were killed in the war then "terrorists," there is no way to justify that. You also argue with my assertions considering house demolitions. I have several rebuttals to this. The use of house demolition under international law is today governed by the Fourth Geneva Convention, enacted in 1949, which protects non-combatants in occupied territories. Article 53 provides that "Any destruction by the Occupying Power of real or personal property belonging individually or collectively to private persons ... is prohibited, except where such destruction is rendered absolutely necessary by military operations." Thus this shows that Israel is violating the Geneva conventions and international law through the destruction of homes. Furthermore, many Israelis have condemned the demolition of Palestinian homes. Israeli historian Yaacov Lozowick has stated "Demolishing the homes of civilians merely because a family member has committed a crime is immoral." This shows how even the Israelis themselves, or reasonable ones, often times find the actions immoral. In fact, even the Israeli government is starting to recognize how detrimental this policy is. On 17 February 2005, Shaul Mofaz, the former Israeli Minister of Defence, approved the recommendation of a military committee to end punitive demolitions of Palestinian houses. Moshe Yaalon, former IDF Chief of Staff, asked the committee to examine whether the practice accomplished its stated goal of deterring Palestinian involvement in attacks on Israelis. The committee found no proof of effective deterrence and concluded that the damage caused by the demolitions overrides its effectiveness. The conclusion was based on the understanding that the demolitions generate resistance within the Palestinian society towards Israel. Since the reasoning given by the Ministry for stopping the policy did not rely on international law, it opened the door for its reintroduction, as warned by the Ministry, in the event of an extreme change in circumstances. This has allowed the demolishing to continue even after it was shown by Israeli research to be detrimental. So this shows that while the Israeli establishment doesn't admit to breaking international law, a good portion of it understand that the destruction of homes is detrimental. However, intentional organizations such as Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and the Red Cross agree that it is in fact against international law as it breaks the Geneva conventions. So my problem with your 'justification' is that it still violates the human rights of the Palestinians and international law.

They are hard and have a much stronger flavor then wine gummies, they are like being punched in the mouth. In a good way. I do love wine gummies though, always pick them up when I pass through Europe.

Max cape/untrimmed capes are long term goals. If I keep playing this game I could see myself getting them in 3-4 years. However I suspect Runescape will die out before then.

What do people think of jolly ranchers? I always keep a bag stashed for when I smoke up, they taste explosive.

Hey Jaffy, I gave Siberia as an example of a place where no people would be displaced. I know it's extreme. I feel the morally best solution would be relocation of the Israelis, however the most realistic would be a two state solution. As for non-Muslims living in Muslim majority countries, I've been a Christian in Jordan for the past three years. Religion is simply not a factor people take into serious consideration here. Same goes for North Africa and the rest of the Middle East. You won't get turned down for a serious job based on religion. Nobody will treat you badly. The only place where it might be an issue is the gulf. People want peace first, they are more concerned with having democracy, stability and equality then religions persecution. One of the biggest youth movements in Egypt and Jordan is one for toleration of religion, I attended a few of their rallies and they are really something positive. The whole goal is political unity. Because before the different religious factions were divided and politicians would use the to their advantage. Mubarak was notorious for this sort of tactic. The new reformers want unity of religions and to use that to improve everybody's lives. If we contrast this to Israel, which is exclusively Jewish. Having gone there as a Christian people place blame on you for the holocaust, my father has gotten insults because he looks Palestinian. It's a different vibe, it's a different mindset. Before coming to the Middle East I was very pro-Israel. I thought they were a strong and good ally to America. After coming here I realized how much the American media, controlled largely by people who support Israel, misconstrue the facts. It's hard to explain because you need to experience it to understand what is going on over here.

Buy grimy herbs, clean them, sell them, repeat. You will profit too.