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Are you saying even at current prayer potion prices, piety is not worth using?

Do not do this - you have the correct approach with Karil's for camping as the melee attack from mithril dragons is the strongest.

Sell your Dharok's Buy 70 Prayer. Unlock Piety via King's Random quest Buy Prayer pots (which are Extremely low atm) Wear Proselyte Top & Verac skirt & Dragon Defender for all tasks. Try to unlock Super-antifires and extremes for Herblore sooner rather than later due to current prices. Piety all tasks & slay, for now you don't really need a cannon as long as you Piety. This will speed up your tasks by 20-25% which will generate a lot more profit & charms at very little cost.

The random items are used as separators. Dividing the effigies up into which skills are needed. 48 of those effigies I have logged & are from Slayer. Over 4.2m Xp - which is a 1/87500 ratio. If I were to omit tasks that I wouldn't normally do it would be a bit lower & around 1 effigy every 2 hours from Slayer.

I think perhaps the best analogy for this CC is: Think of it like University - It's further education, you're there because you want to learn more on the very basics you should already know(117,148), you also have to be willing to cope with the influx of information and make the effort to absorb it all and perhaps put up with a few harsh realities on the way. This is NOT like school - Where you are having an education forced upon you & have to/feel obliged to go (rapier, frosts) and where you don't necessarily care if you learn or not once you have finished. The Lecturers are not paid, they are not here to hold your hand, most are reasonable, most are tolerant. However nearly all share the same goal of trying to exact their knowledge on others in the hope they will develop an avid interest in advanced Dungeoneering & want to, at some point help share in distributing knowledge to others.

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Lol? That's a poor argument if I've ever heard one. The OP never asked us not to talk about fishing or herblore so should we talk about that? Honestly, just think about it. The op is definitely not "new" to this game. He has 99 in multiple stats and is pretty high up there for many other levels. It's a safe assumption that he knows what he's doing and he's choosing to do it that way. How is offering additional advice that cutting yews is a waste of his time at his stats a poor argument. Drawing a parallel to talking about fishing and herblore is even worse and is completely irrelevant. If he is adamant on DIY'ng then he can do so, I don't care, other people don't care. But now he has a choice if he already was unaware that it was a waste of his time. If he was aware, he can continue to waste his time, I don't care but the advice has been given either way.

OP didn't specify that he wanted no additional advice. It's better to try and post further h&a and for him to ignore/dismiss it if it's not relevant, than not post it all.

There is, it's called 200m all skills thread & this has been discussed heavily.

Nex Corp GWD DKS TD In order of importance Anywhere else you think you'd need to brew or invent space is an issue. They do not have a significant impact on slayer tasks. Ext potting every 5minutes is significantly cheaper and unless pressed for space (which you shouldn't be on slayer task). A lot of richer players use overloads on slayer just because they either: Value the herb xp and have the mentality that they are "free" because of the herblore xp, or are just rich enough not to care.

Fire Giants (Gold) Greater Demons (Crimson) Bloodveld (Green) Do these then, getting charms is slow, it is just something you have to deal with. There are fast ways to get charms but not at your combat levels or money.

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Don't ruin my cheap prayer pots prices please@@@@@@@

At your level Gold charms are a good option. At higher summoning levels Crimson charms become the best option. You should only do Slayer if you get bored at one spot. If you do not want to do Slayer, some monsters I can recommend you to train on for charms (and good combat xp for your level) Fire Giants (Gold) Greater Demons (Crimson) Bloodveld (Green) However all of these monsters you will get assigned to you anyway if you decide to do slayer. Also Saradomin Sword is a good option to train strength, you should not cannon at your levels and money. Do not ever trade this in for a bandos godsword. Remember for every strength level you gain - your attack and defence levels will be faster. Once you are 52+ summoning, crimson charms will start to be a lot better to get than the other charms. Once you have access to piety (70 prayer) and 80 combat stats, waterfiends become an excellent place to get charms.

"Teamsize: 6 players Main weapon: Chaotic longsword Special weapon: Elite Excalibur " Guyz I have revolutionary idea l0l, Let's bring the best defensive weapon for da bandos when the emphasis is on offence with our 5 steel titan p00naging sergeant for phat loot to split 6 wayz ey wtf why we not get drop to that guy with red handz I'm all for innovation and challenging the status quo but come on. Perhaps if this was mentioned as a duo or something, but SIX players, especially when you are limited by spawn timers >_>

Thank your for proving the OP's point. Also well done on undermining your fellow staffs judgement on where a thread should and shouldn't be. By all means go and hide this rant away from your innocent viewers, don't want it being a blight on your garden of eden here.

Wat

-17% level mod wtf, share floors plz

I did have a post to clarify my points and rebut yours but my auto-shutdown kicked in and it's gone now i'm mad. The microwave analogy was a reference to the attitude of being lazy and attitude toward automation & cheating to make life easier. Ofc it's got nothing to do with whether using a microwave is immoral it's to do with whether cheating to get something done quicker IS or isn't ethical. So it wasn't completely left wing although probably not clarified properly in relation to whether automation is moral/immoral and not cooking an egg. I'm also arguing that botting or automating is a process of saving time. The process does transcend between both worlds or scenarios. However the morality of doing so is vastly different between the 2 so does 1 decision have an impact on the other towards shaping your attitude toward automation? Whether saving time is immoral is obviously up for interpretation assuming the moral choice (not the rule that Jagex specifies) that led you to this conclusion transcends both scenarios. If you personally see it as saving time, then morally, it's not cheating. Cheating on a test does not save you time, it only helps you further yourself in a competition so the circumstance and justification used to approach this are not one in the same. As for their being a loosening of ethical standards. From mankinds founding ethics (be it the 10 commandments or whatever) society has evolved and societies morals have evolved. There is nothing standard about moral standards. Only a comparison of what came before. If you believe that people were less likely to "cheat" in the past and they only do so now because societies attitude toward cheating is loosening, then I believe that's wrong. Societies stance on cheating is becoming a lot firmer. If you take sport, which is perceived as a physical game not a virtual one. Look at the drugs testing and video technology used now. The fines & bans are getting larger to set moral examples to those who watch or participate in the game. There is a much greater attitude and emphasis on fair play and clean participation as the consequences have increased to coincide with the rewards increasing (and thus the increase of risk which is used as a deterrent). Anyway i've lost interest in this topic now as each time you post your original point apparently becomes more and more niche and changes.

Lest we Forget

"Players trying to justify botting by saying it doesn't harm anyone or that it's because botters have a better sense of priorities are just deluding themselves. I laugh at people who say that botters take real life more seriously than Runescape, so they're saving themselves time to focus on other, more "important" things. What you don't seem to realize is that this laissez-faire attitude also carries over to the other parts of your life as well." So by this logic the laissez-faire attitude applies to you if: You use any equipment designed by man so that man doesn't have to do all the work, despite the fact man COULD do it once upon a time, now he can do it more efficiently or do something else in parallel but achieving the same outcome. Using that oven? That transcends from laziness, get your sticks out an light a fire. Hell you'll still cook your food but at least you will keep your morality intact. So is someone who bots more likely to order take-away or a microwave meal because they are lazy? Or will they be more inclined to cook because they're character's busy chopping yews so that they can meet the requirements in order to do a quest later on that night, which is the one aspect of the game they really enjoy. I bet you drive or cycle to work. Why, when you can run or walk? Why use a machine to make life easier? What if you could spend an extra hour each day walking to work instead of driving & not actually lose any time in your virtual universe. You'll still be able to compete with said rival whom has spent an extra hour on the game. Yet you will have the moral high ground as you aren't supposedly killing the planet, and he is by driving. I mean it's logical to assume that preservation of humanity in this aspect is of a greater moral responsibility than perhaps the governance of morals of which man live under. We can still exist without morals but we cannot exist without a habitable planet. A virtual reality & a physical reality are 2 separate entities. However they are 2 separate entities governed by the limitation of time. Time is required to participate in both and as the 2 realities are controlled by 1 person they must always choose how they divide that time between the 2 realities. To spend time in one reality you must sacrifice time in the other. Now there are 2 scenarios depending on your moral situation you must choose between them. Option 1) Place greater emphasis on your virtual life by sacrificing your morals in your organic life. You opt to play your virtual life by choosing to microwave (a man made creation in order to automate your physical life) your dinner and eat in front of the computer while playing your digitized avatar of your moral self. Option 2) Place greater emphasis on your physical life by sacrificing your digital morals. You spend an hour cooking a dinner from scratch, pasta and all. You then sit down to eat this meal, your digital life is still running parallel to your organic one. However are you morally superior or inferior because you decided to not automate your dinner and instead elected to automate your digitized life. Using a microwave to heat meals is consider unethical and a form of cheating when it comes to the preparation of food. Using a script to automate your virtual character is also cheating and against the rules. Runescape is a virtual place, a creation. It is bound by a set of laws and not ethics. Ethics are a man-made fabrication that apply to how our physical lives are governed and how our society is ran. Ethics do not apply to Runescape (aside from social interaction as you are using Runescape as a device to communicate with another physical being, therefore social ethics apply when communicating between players.) Runescape has it's own laws. The laws of Runescape do not apply to the physical world, and the physical worlds laws do not apply to Runescapes laws. If laws are derived from ethics then how can these 2 separate entities share the same set of ethics, if they do not share the same set of laws. You are able to automate and simulate in the physical world and it not be deemed immoral. You are able to kill one another in Runescape and it not be deemed immoral nor against the law. This example may sound stupid, because it is. Using the same ethics and set of rules and applying both equally to both worlds doesn't work. Cheating in one world does not necessarily mean it is immoral in the other nor does it mean your actions will automatically transcend or have an impact on your decisions in either scenario.

OMG if you could make an RSMV with sagittarius raving in his boss room with that going. It would be the greatest creation ever.

So it was all a charade after all.