No they arent...just as treasure trails armour arent for f2p Hmmm. I'm thinking that someone should tell my F2P Def 10 hybrid that he can't wear all that Black (G) armor he has been wearing all these months :roll: I think the IMPORTANT question is "Is this armor tradeable in F2P?". That is, the shields and green drag armor as an example. If not, then the second question would be "Can my P2P character wear it EFFECTIVELY in F2P?" . That is, can my P2P character get the bonuses that the armor would give on a P2P world in a F2P world. Dragon weapons, for instance, can be carried on F2P but give no bonus. I am sure that the answers to these questions will be answered eventually(and yes I know the search button is my friend. I can't find the answer with it....YET :wink: ). It would seem a shame to have all of this low level stuff just for P2P as one would seem to grow out of it rather quickly. Lets be honest, a level 40 ranger probably does not have a lot of money to spend on Green (G) anyway. Just my 2 Gold Pieces, Daemos Magen A simple "Are they tradable on f2P?" would've sufficed.... the answer is no. They aren't tradable on f2p, they are members only. Meaning they have no stats on f2p either.