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Well, I think it is quite relevant. What's the point of giving a punishment that can't be enforced? If it isn't enforced, the man would practically escape without punishment. Lol yeah. Bit of a silly point there insane. He is being thrown into a sex offender's program. The restriction on talking to women is in addition to that. He is being punished.

The punishment fits the crime. This man obviously has no respect for women, and no benefit will come of him coming into contact with them. Whether or not it is possible to enforce is irrelevant.

Yes, and the two men on the left appear to be kissing. Therefore the apostles were homosexual.

I don't really want to have a debate about circular reasoning on this thread. I'll reply with this: http://www.needhim.org/1/bible/bible4.shtml Thats still circular reasoning, and i quote the last paragraph "This is not circular reasoning. It is establishing certain facts and basing conclusions on the sound, logical outcome of these facts". All the facts they establish come from the Bible, and even if they establish facts like "Jesus was crucified" that doesn't logically conclude to his ressurection. That whole things seems very much like stretching beliefs into apparent facts. The only way for a christian to avoid circular reasoning ie. "I beleive in the Christian God because the Bible is true, and i believe in the Bible because the christian God is true" is by relying on other evidence to support the specific idea of God such as personal experiences of seeing Jesus telling you the christian God is correct or something. Which can not be proven, or may not be real and only ever counts as a proof to that person and sometimes to other followers of the religion already and no one else. It is not circular. We establish a basic belief (God exists), from which all other truths can logically flow. Everybody has beliefs that cannot be proven true that are the basis from which all other beliefs flow. For example, the belief that "my senses are reliable", or "I can reason my way towards truth" is a basic belief that (almost) everybody holds. And (almost) every other belief we have stems from our senses/reason. Are all of your beliefs/arguments circular in that your senses/reason define them? According to your logic, I guess they are.

You haven't exactly given us much to go on. Do you smoke? Drink alot? Over/underweight? Exercise? Eating habits? Etc.

That's a fairly general statement... can you back it up?

Go volunteer somewhere and make yourself useful.

Math. A TA can't look at a math paper and say "wow, this is the best math paper I have ever seen... 80%", like they can for pretty much any other subject. It's objective.

Did anyone else find it strange that the nutrition facts listed on the first page for a 4.5g piece of bacon said that it contained 7g of fat?

What do you mean? You think rapists are following the Bible? I don't think so. All your study shows is that some people that say they follow the Bible actually don't.

At my church the kids are the opposite? Maybe you just go to a dead church. I don't see how you could just tolerate his beliefs as they differ at the very core. Sure, beliefs like how to discipline kids and what your favourite food is can be reconciled, but the beliefs that determine who you live your life for, what you believe the point of life is, and the beliefs that determine your every priority? I don't see how you can reconcile that.

It's not Biblically founded, because the Papacy didn't exist in the time frame that the Bible references?

I run 30-40km/week.

A four minute mile is like... the litmus test for professional runners. I don't think you could run one... I can't run one (I'm in the 4:30 range), and I train upwards of 20km each time I run :P I would agree. Get an ergometer instead. It is a much more complete workout.

A positive post every once in a while wouldn't go amiss. It doesn't matter, he raises an interesting point.

Breakfast is the most important meal of the day. If you continue to live that way, not only will you be burning fat, but also muscle. Who says no one is eating breakfast? You're just running prior to eating breakfast. That's unhealthy. An average diet consists of 2000 calories a day. That means reducing your meal intake to 0.75 meals/day.

Is ceasing the evolutionary process immoral?

Watch what you drink. Lay off pop, beer, and sugary juices.

I think Stonehenge and Pyramids of Giza should have made it in...

I was only answering your question on how he came to the conclusion that that was a shallow analogy. I didn't feel the need to address your points because I think that we have already discussed the issue with each other on the previous thread.

May I ask how you have come to that conclusion? "You don't buy a car before you take a test drive". The only function of a car is to drive. Thus saying that you wouldn't marry someone before having sex by using that analogy implies that the only function of your spouse is to sexually satisfy you. Hence the shallow comment.

You're saying your parents, friends or the government dont interfere with people's sex lives? Only Religion? If there's a problem in society (or a perceived one) its always religions fault if you're asking for Assassin's opinion. :roll: It's also gravity's fault the planes in 9/11 crashed into the WTCs. But seriously, you can't assign fault to anything that doesn't have some sort of perceived free will.

Oh you are generous :XD: Oh don't be so innuendous. :P You fail the test.

Come again?

Hmm... it wasn't intentional, but I wonder if it is selfish? The word selfish has alot of negative connotations attached to it. All I meant is that you aren't going to owe anyone anything - living as a couple without marriage is selfish to degree, as you're leaving yourself an out. You want all the benefits of marriage with the option of ditching your SO whenever you feel like it. At least I can't see any other reason why you wouldn't get married. I could be wrong though. Is not sexual activity a behaviour? Or do you mean public behaviour? Again, my reasons for starting this debate wasn't to force my ideas on anyone, it was to present a rational view towards chastity, and to give this topic a direction. Do you think every behaviour is down to personal preference though? If so, why do we have laws? Personal preferences can be detrimental. Or are you talking about private behaviour this time?