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Item lending is NOT against the rules. Furthermore, I think that it is perfectly moral. A hell of a lot of businesses are founded completely around the idea of renting. It also makes perfect sense. You rent skis usually because you can't buy them or it's not worth buying them b/c you won't use them enough...it makes sense. 38-39-505-57197261 "Charging or offering gold to rent an item is effectively a trust trade. There is no guarantee that either party will honour their end of the offer. In addition, lending out items is a helpful and charitable action. The Item Lending system was not designed for players to monopolise on their high level equipment, it is there to help encourage a friendly and welcoming atmosphere on the forums. Please always keep the spirit of the game in mind when playing RuneScape. You will not only make yourself feel great for playing the game properly, but you will help others have a more rewarding gaming experience. Due to recent feedback, I would like to highlight that offering GP for Item Lending in-game is fine, however we do not allow this on the Forums. Thank you."

Well, I've decided to try it out at Waterfiends, and it definitely hits better than Torag's Hammers, and Verac's Flail, making it actually a decent weapon, with a low price. It's comparable to the Spear, just that its a bit slower. ~Dan And it can train all combat stats while still using crush. :) You were hitting as good as the spear? Dude, there was no comparison at all for me. I didn't even bother recording numbers because it was so completely obvious. Normally I would, but the spear just dominated for me. I've got maxed stats if that matters. I was also using a DFS instead of a defender there. Defense is rather important at fiends, however, and the defender lowered my defense a lot. I can't compare it to hammers/flail because I've never used them at fiends. But yes, it can train all combat styles.

Mace + zerker necklace at waterfiends isn't at all as good as the zamorakian spear is.... There's no comparison. I tested that yesterday. Oh well. :(

Hey there....that's an old guide of mine haha. Sadly too much stuff comes out all the time for me to have wanted to keep it up. Anyway, that combo of necklace and sword was useful ONLY for str training and ONLY where defense wasn't a large concern. Now that we have familiars, however, it opens a lot more doors for potential use. We also have the DFS. The thing is, once you're maxed or if you're not str training, it's really better to just use the whip. Also, another reason this method's sort of forgotten is that people have gotten used to three major options: godswords, SS, scimitar. It used to be only the scimitar and people were rather bored of it, so they searched around for other ideas. The only catch is that defense is very important at waterfiends, something which the obby necklace really isn't good at providing since the maul is a 2H weapon. Actually...if the TzHaar-Ket-Em is a one handed weapon (it has crush) then I suppose it's possible that using it would be practical. I'd have to know if it were 1H or 2H though.

If you guys want to know the problem, it's really rather easy. Things don't break. And also, you can make WAY more things than people can possibly ever use. If one man makes 50,000 bows, and everyone else makes a few hundred, that's way the heck more than anyone could ever use. Same thing with armor. More is made than could ever be used. Whereas IRL this doesn't occur to such a huge extent. The problem is too much production. That's really all it is, frankly.

Hey smartme, I tried earmuffs out on the birds once. They basically reduced the damage the birds dealt by 1/2, but I found them to still hit too often. I guess you could try, but I wasn't able to cope with that. If you get an enclosed area w/ only two birds (like the cannon area), I could see you maybe pulling that off. Maybe.

My guess is Lumbridge/House teleport, but since he's got Karamja Gloves 3, I'm not really sure... The gloves are for teleporting to Shilo for new tasks from duradel. The runes were for teleporting to my house, where in turn I can teleport anywhere because I have the correct portals. However, I now use dust runes b/c they are so cheap. So you guys know, this guide is now featured in "Misunderstood Monsters", and I'd appreciate it if you guys directed your comments and attention over to that thread. Thanks.

Lol I really enjoyed your humor while I read that. REPENT! Good guide for those who want some quick cash. Good find, too. :)

This should entertain you guys. An in-depth account into the life of a lvl 134's history of training. I find it strange that you could forget. Just walk around runescape and memories should pop up! I've been playing for 6 years as of this August, and I can remember basically how I trained every skill...I'll give a combat example. I'll just tell me melee story. I remember training mage and range just as well as I remember what I'll describe below, btw. My first few combat levels were all gotten around lumbridge. I remember hacking away at goblins, wondering if it was possible to hit anything higher than a 1. I soon found out that you could. I made my way across runescape after this, finding out about and loving mining and smithing. I trained in full iron (I was very proud of myself for getting that), and made my way to the goblins north of falador, where the goblin generals are. I fought them until I could finally wear steel armor. I remember how much better steel armor was! I was in heaven. Eventually, a quest (I forget which) required me to get blurite. I began to do it and discovered the amazingness that was the ice giant and ice warrior dungeon (where wyverns are now too) way south of falador. I got to mine a few blurite ores before I was killed by an ice giant, but I knew that would happen so I only brought a pick and died with the 2 ores on me. That was all that I needed. So after finding that dungeon, I went back with my steel armor and killed the pirates there. I killed pirates by cooking chicken on the farm just south of falador, and then going south to fight the pirates. When I ran out of food, I went back to the farm and killed more chickens for food and came right back. I went all the way from steel to addy armor by killing pirates. After that, I did a lot of other skills. I got some combat exp here and there... I killed several giants in the edgeville dungeon by using the key shortcut. I eventually got up to wearing rune. I was able to afford it because I mined a lot of coal in the mean time, which was my sole source of income. I remember how awesome it was to finally be wearing full rune with a purple cape. Not much later, fate brought me to discover lesser demons on karamja. I killed a LOT of those. My routine was to fish a load of lobsters at the docks, cook them, and then go fight lessers. I'd bank whatever my loot was, and then repeat several times. I killed enough lessers that I got about 400k in cash and about 500k in rune meds from them (I was freaking rich). I used that money to buy an entire mask set. I'm extremely glad that I did buy that mask set back then lol, even though it was almost all of my money. After that, I didn't train combat for a very long time. I was around 89 combat when I stopped. That was when rs2 came out as well. I remember my combat level got boosted a bit because of the new system. After rs2 came out, I trained my combat at a whole bunch of different places up until I was lvl 111. I trained at daganoths when they came out for a while, tried fire giants under baxtorian, etc. At this point, I decided it was time to sell a white phat that I had bought back in rsc. I bought a white phat for 4 mil shortly after the dupe. I'm part of the reason why it's the second most expensive phat actually, haha. Myself and a few others purposefully drove up the demand for white phats on W2 north of varrock by buying all at the same time, and by buying for what the merchants knew was a slightly inflated price. Back then, this was enough to give white hats the second place price. Anywho, I eventually sold this white phat for 254M. I'd also sold my mask set a while ago for 30 something mil. I decided it was time I spent some serious cash on a skill. The main reason was that POHs just came out, and so did the gilded altars. I got 80 construction and built myself a GREAT house (still is great). I then bought all the dragon bones (3k each) and marrentill I needed for 99 prayer for 100M. Getting 99 prayer brought me up to 114 combat. From there, I finally discovered how amazing slayer was. I REALLY wish now that I had actually done the skill when it came out instead of waiting so long... Anyway, I've done slayer off and on for the last 2 years and now I'm at 134 combat, all through slayer. I'm now 98 slayer (900k away from 99!), and I plan on getting 99 within the next 2 weeks. So that's my story of melee. I could recite about 90% of my range history and about 75% of my magic history. As far as my individual skills go, I'd say I remember about half of them entirely, and the other half I remember MOST of what I did for the levels. Anyway, thanks for making this topic. I've needed to briefly document some of my history somewhere, hehe.

I saw this and just had to say this is awesome. I'm currently 1 mil exp from 99 slayer...should get it within the next week or two. After 99 slayer, a buddy of mine and I want to get 99 firemaking together. Looks like we'll be going to the grand exchange, hehe. This guide was quite helpful, thanks. :)

My warped terror bird guide is now here. I just wanted to verify that I did indeed tell erichermit to put my guide here. I'm a big fan of the "misunderstood monsters" concept, so I want them all to be grouped together. Enjoy. :) And erichermit, feel free to edit the terror bird guide if you want to.

Actually, ANY computer bought within the last 3 years should be able to easily meet the requirements. Any mid-range or above computer bought within the last 6 years would be able to meet the requirements too, I'm sure. Even the really, dirt cheap $350 computers sold these days have AT LEAST a 1.8ghz dual core processor, 1GB ram, and the intel integrated 3100 (which would run the new runescape perfectly fine...this is leagues ahead of the previous GMA integrated).

Hey guys! Alright, I did a BIG update with a cannon and a single bird method. I think you'll find them very useful! This should be the final version (besides fixing a typo here and there). This includes every way I know to efficiently kill warped terror birds. Let me know if you guys have anything else on your minds. Feedback is always good. Thanks. :)

Yes, Ryder. At least for me. The only time that it doesn't last long enough is when I go and get loot from the last drop or mess something up. If you have lower attack, you may find yourself having to use the chimes again. But for the most part, one use is just fine if you are doing things correctly.

O right, sorry. Personal preference then. I'd imagine that people will mix and match as they see fit. :)

Thanks meme79, I'll add a tid-bit about that later. I might see what exp/hour you can get there. Of course you didn't. However, I still think it's a very good option. There is some personal preference there. However, if you go verac brassard/skit to proselyte plate/legs, you lose 70 defense and you gain 4 prayer. The choice is up to you, but I prefer the 70 more defense. As always, I appreciate the input.

V1.1 is up now. I added in a new map about how to get to the sewer entrance in the first place. I've also added the guthans and proselyte/veracs method, and I will be adding cannon info once I get another assignment of birds. I've determined that you should indeed use veracs if you are using the bunyip method. Proselyte simply does not offer enough defense for only +4 more prayer. Your HP might get so low with pros that you would have to leave. Thank you for all of the suggestions. If I don't hear anything else, I'll just update the cannon section when I can and that will probably be all. edit: just realized I need to add an inventory screen shot to the guthans area...i'll get on that.

Hey guys.... Yeah I suppose I should consider using super str/def pots. With my setup, I have enough room. I suppose super def pots would also allow people with lower defense to be able to camp them with bunyips. The main reason I didn't beforehand is because I'm 99 all combat stats, so I didn't want people to feel as if this guide were only for very high level combats... Inuashakent, I'll try a proselyte plate/legs next time and see how it goes. I have a feeling that it won't have enough defense, however. The main goal with this guide is to kill them all in one trip, and if they hit too much then that will not be possible. Ryder said "So you can kill one in the duration of one chiming easily? ". Maybe I wasn't entirely clear. I meant that you should click on your chime when you have nearly killed the one you are currently hitting. That way, once you have killed the one you are currently hitting, you can simply double click on the next terrorbird. It just speeds things up a little bit. SxqPower, thanks for that tip. I might look into cannoning these... I'll add that as an alternative or something. Hey Erichermit, if you see this message, pm me about your guide. I've read it and I really do like it. I'd be happy to have you use most of or part of this guide in yours. I'll give you a PM anyway. I'll edit the guide after I've been assigned another round of birds. Thanks for the feedback. Please feel free to leave more feedback. :)

Cool guide... I totally forgot that this place existed. I did this quest back in RSC. Too bad it's not all that useful, though. :(

Terror Birds seem to be one of the first things that people put on their slayer ban list. However, I'm here to show you that they are one of the better assignments! There are a few methods to kill the terror birds. This guide was made for the bunyip method, but others have been brought to my attention and investigated. Thus, the "Guthans and Proselyte/Veracs" method is just an "add ons", and should be read AFTER reading the bunyip section. You should read section 1 BEFORE reading section 2. You should read BOTH sections 1 AND 2 before reading 3 or 4. 1. Bunyip - Requires 90+ defense AND 68+ summoning 2. Guthans and Proselyte/Veracs - 85+ defense 3. Cannon - 85+ defense AND EITHER 68+ summoning OR Guthans 4. Fighting Just 1 Bird - 70+ defense AND EITHER 68+ summoning OR Guthans 1. Bunyip This section of the guide is intended for slayers who have 90+ defense and can summon bunyips. If you have less than 90 defense, you'll probably end up having to use a little food and these may take you more than one trip. One other option is that you can bring enough super defense potions to keep your defense above about 90 all the time, though that will take up some inventory space. First off, here are the exp/hour numbers to keep you interested. First Test Fully focused with 99 str, att, def, hp, pry and using super attack pots whenever my attack fell below 105. 19,660 slayer exp/hour. Second Test Deliberately left myself attacking birds while they were invulnerable sometimes, messed up moving around a few times, and basically did what people would do if they didn't pay a lot of attention. Did not use super attack potion at all. 17,204 slayer exp/hour. As you can see, these are some great numbers! Now for how to kill them and the loot they give. Where and How to Kill Them The birds are located in the Sewer Slayer Dungeon (http://tip.it/runescape/index.php?page= ... ungeon.htm for tip.it guide). Here are two maps showing where you should go. You can get there via: Dueling Ring teleport to Cwars, hot balloon in front of Cwars, fairy ring BKP, or the spirit tree (spirit tree does not need a mithril grapple). In the picture below, you need to stand in BETWEEN the two red boxes. The goal here is to have only ONE terrorbird attacking you at a time. If you stand along the shore of that little tar pond, the birds will be trapped by the corners. You can then run along the shore and attack them one at a time. If you have 2 or more birds attacking you at once, your bunyip will not be able to heal you fast enough. I cannot stress enough that you must only have 1 bird attacking you at a time. To fight the birds, you need to always have range prayer on. Otherwise, you will be promptly killed. You want as much melee defense and prayer bonus as you can get. I recommend the following set up. Your inventory should be very similar to the setup pictured below. I normally use about 9 prayer pots in an assignment of 160 birds and 2-3 bunyip pouches. You can bring whatever you want to in the last 4 spots. You'll figure out what's best for you after you go once or twice. Some tips for killing them. -Click on the chimes just before you are about to kill the bird you are currently attacking. After you have killed the one you are currently attacking, you can basically just double click the next bird. This technique speeds things up a little bit. -Do not wait on the terror bird to die. They have a terribly long death animation. Just get the loot after you have killed your next bird. -Terror birds are ALWAYS AGGRESSIVE. This means you have to use the technique described earlier for the entire time you are killing them. -Super attack potions aren't entirely necessary. Their defense is already incredibly low. I just like a little extra kick. -Their range attack will tear you to shreds. Always, always pray range. Do not let your range prayer run out. -An average assignment will take you between 1 and 1.25 hours when you have become proficient with this method. Larger assignments may take longer. But keep in mind, the exp is still great even though the assignment takes a long time. -The birds are all level 81 and have an amazing 150 hit points. You cannot attack the level 143 birds at the end of the sewer after completing the Path of Glourphie quest. Loot Now, you want to pay off using all those prayer potions. Here is the loot from what I would call an average run. Ignore anything OUTSIDE of the red box (I brought that stuff with me) The loot in that picture is broken down as follows: 38k in deaths 25k alch rune warhammer 32k alch rune kiteshield 16.5k in diamond bolt tips 7k in emerald bolt tips 8.5k in ruby bolt tips 20k in addy bolts 25.5k in rune bolts 63k in swamp tar 8k in raw sharks =243.5k NOW SUBTRACT 81k - the cost of an average of 9 (4 dose) prayer potions 5.4k - 3 bunyip pouches TOTAL - 157.1k So you can get great slayer exp, make some decent cash, and you can do this all in one trip! 2. Guthans and Proselyte/Veracs As I have come to realize, guthans is very effective at terror birds. They have incredibly low defense, and so guthans will heal you very often. Furthermore, guthans can be used by people of about 85+ defense, and no summoning is required. You should also bring along proselyte plate and legs (wear your slayer mask or helmet instead of the proselyte helmet). Whenever you need to heal, use guthans. Whenever your health is above about 3/5, put on your proselyte for better prayer bonus. It has decent enough melee defense to work for some time. The experience will be slightly slower for this method due to using guthans. However, it will not be too much less because of the terror birds' low defense. The exact same tactics that were used in the bunyip section also apply to the guthan/proselyte method. Guthans does allow you to mess up some more than the bunyip method (like getting double teamed by tbirds), but it will cost you some exp/hour because you will have to heal yourself more often if you do mess up. Alternatively, you may wish to use Veracs instead of proselyte. I would personally prefer this. It trades off +4 prayer for +70 more defense across the board. An inventory for guthans should look like this. You'll want a few more prayer pots because you'll have to pray while healing in guth, which doesn't have any prayer bonus. I edited the image a little because I don't own guthans any more since I use bunyips all the time. You'll figure out what to bring in the 3 empty slots once you've done a trip or two. 3. Cannon Using either the bunyip or guthans methods earlier described, you may find yourself wanting to cannon! You will use about 10 cannon balls for every 1 bird you have to kill. This method brought in 24,269 slayer exp/hour. To get to the best cannon spot, follow this map. There are other spots, but you might be attacked by 3 or more birds, or you might continuously waste cannon balls attacking tortoises. Hence, this spot that I chose is really the best one. Your inventory should look very similar to this if you are using the bunyip method. If you use guthans, you will simply leave out the bunyip pouches and potion, and instead bring your guthans. Your armor/weapon load out should be the same as the bunyip method mentioned previously if you are using bunyips. Likewise for Guthans. Now listen closely. This becomes somewhat strategic. Below these paragraphs is a setup of how to kill them. You should ALWAYS put your cannon in the same spot. This spot ensures that it is always attacking at least one of the birds. It often shoots both or double shoots one. You should also stand next to the INSIDE of either pillar. It is your choice. If you stand on the square inside of either pillar, only 1 bird should be able to attack you at a time. If they both start to attack you, don't panic! With your cannon, you should be able to withstand them both attacking you for just a few seconds. Tips for cannoning: -Make SURE that you use your chimes on a bird whenever it spawns. Otherwise, you will waste a lot of cannon balls and time. -If you think a bird is about to turn invulnerable again, go ahead and use your chimes on it again -If you just killed 1 bird, go ahead and move from the good spot to kill the last bird. Then run back -Reload your cannon whenever it is convenient. If you moved from the normal spot, consider reloading while you are moving around. -Cannoning takes more attention than any other method, but it is also the fastest. To be honest, it takes almost constant attention. You can easily chat while you cannon though. 4. Fighting Just 1 Bird The lone bird method is not recommended, but some of you might not mind taking your time or don't want any risk of dying. This method also does not require any prayer potions, which can be a money saver. This method brought in about 12,900 slayer exp/hour. Follow the map below to get to the lone bird. It is in its own little caged area. Your weapon/armor load out should be geared towards having the highest possible defense. You don't need to worry about prayer bonus at all now. Your inventory is very similar to the methods in sections 1 or 2. The inventory below is using a bunyip. If you are using guthans, just replace the bunyip pouches and summoning potion with guthans equipment. If you'll notice, this load out has 3 (4) dose super attack potions and 4 bunyips. This is because the single bird method takes longer than any of the other methods. Killing the single bird is pretty easy. Stand either directly next to or on top of the spawn. This way, the bird will use melee attack and it should almost never use its ranged attack. You can sit back and relax while you hack away. Just make sure that you have your chimes ready in case you take too long to kill it. CREDITS -Thank you to feelstreem for some info on the guthan method and for several useful suggestions! -Thank you to The Slayer's Guild (led by bigmoneyak, also known as Axe Man Jack) for keeping me on track with slayer

- Playing online games with Americans, get kicked for having high ping. Eh...maybe that happens. If I play warcraft III, I get kicked a *lot* more by foreign players than I do US players. Why? I have higher ping. I also can't speak their language well so I automatically get kicked, even if I'm a very good player. It's more universal. - Americans cussing out middle-eastern players, this happens alot more then you think. Yeah I can see this happening...it's rather unfortunate. - Americans feeling their way of spelling words takes priority over others. If they've never heard of another way to spell a word, they'll naturally be inclined to say something should be spelled as they've seen it spelled for their entire lives. I can see why this would annoy you though. - When I was registering for some games, "Sorry, this is not available in your region". That's more of a corporate thing. - They automatically assume their country is the middle of the universe. Perhaps you can understand this when I give this little example... In Europe, if you travel 300 miles in some direction you'll probably be in another country, or have passed through a few. In America, you'll have gone though one state. Hell, where I live, Canada is to the north by about 800 miles, and then Mexico is to the south west by about 2000. It's a long way to get to any other culture or country. I'm surrounded by America. That and we are a super power. A lot of things happen here. - Laugh at others cultures and accents. See the above. People here aren't entirely used to other cultures/accents. The only thing we're used to is some spanish, but that's only if you live in the south west. Sorry if this is a generalisation, but happens quite often. Sure, i've got quite a few american friends, but even more american enemies. Was just giving a little insight. I'm not saying that you still shouldn't be annoyed as hell by Americans...I'm just helping you understand why they may be as they are. :)

Stop reading out of my head o_O. Kinda creepy how well I fit your description... you wouldn't happen to be my long lost twin, would you? You're not the only one, reb. However, in about the last year I've learned how to really feel when I want to...something along the lines of a heightened sense of empathy. Ever watched that "Kiwi!" video on youtube? I cried for a few minutes after watching it... absolutely beautiful. Same thing goes for movies, oddly enough. I've never cried during a movie until recently. Though if I choose, I can go to my old self and merely examine things, no emotions attached.

It depends upon your attitude. Runescape is a game, after all. If you're new to members, then you should begin where you'd like to begin. It might take you six months to complete all the quests, but if that's what you like to do, then you should enjoy them. Tbh if new players just do all the members quests (using a guide if necessary, definitely), then they can easily become familiar with most of the runescape member areas. It just takes time. And if you think runescape has a lot of content...oh boy. Don't even bother with eve online then.

A few notes from my own trials. I'm a 126 wearing guth plate, guth skirt, guth helm, dragonfire shield, fury, drag boots, barrow gloves, whip, fire cape, ring of wealth. I get +380 slash defense with that. Well, Here are the best and worst results of a few trips I did. My inventory was composed of: laws, waters, rune axe, anti fire, super attk, super str, 905 gp to start out with. I dropped all but the runes and axe before I left. Best trip: 8:51:30 start at ardy 9:05:30 stop at ardy ate 4 lobsters used 2 doses of antifire potions used 1 dose of super pots 12 bones, 13 hides, 8 rune arrows, 3 chocolate cakes That comes out to about 300k/hour. (bones 2,300 each and hides 3,500 each) Worst trip: trip 2: 9:14:30 start at ardy 9:30:00 end ate 10 lobsters used 2 doses of antifire used 1 dose of super pots 12 bones, 13 hides, no other good loot 257k/hour Also, the max I was hit for was 14 damage. I'd also like to point out that blue dragons are about 400k gp per hour (using the agility shortcut and falador west fall shortcut) if NO ONE is there, for me. However, seeing as that place is almost always full to the brink, it's worse than red dragons (and less fun one might say). If you can get one spawn to yourself in a world with about 1,000 people...then I get about 250k/hour at blue dragons tops. I just thought I'd give some input. :)

Absolutely excellent guide! I sincerely hope you continue to develop this, and wish you the best of luck. AOW in the future.