*These are my views, and not anyone else's* 1. I am not arguing about the validity of the Bible. I don't care who thinks the Bible is correct or not. 2. If the people you are talking about are Christians, that means they believe what the Bible says. 3. Please logically explain to me, using your knowledge of Greek culture when that verse was written, why a verse that speaks not only until the end of this time, but also through all of eternity, would change over time. If a Christian who believes in the Bible reads a verse that says "this will never change," what culturally would make that Christian who believes in the Bible think that the verse is now irrelevant? That verse was written by MAN in a different age then ours, not God, it is not eternal. Technically, the Catholic Church may say that's true for all of eternity, but most Christians don't give a hoot for most of the Catholic Church's opinions (take the homosexuality argument, for example...). Practical Christians don't take every single word of the Bible as law and the Word of God. I'll admit some crazy Christians might though. Much of the Bible is written specifically to the people of the time, such as many of the rules it tells us of how to treat women, many of which are outdated. Another good example is Paul's belief that celibacy is the best thing to do. Wana know why he said that? It's because he believed Jesus was going to come back within his lifetime, so we don't need to reproduce. Well, obviously he was wrong. Too bad the idea of celibacy survived his error. Anyways, my point is that the Bible is not absolute, and not true in every case. Most Christians realize that not everything in the Bible is true, or the Word of God. What are you talking most? Most Christians I know do believe it to be the Word of God. Also you yourself have brought up the verse talking about how to treat women. That was said because women were talking out of line, rather than submitting to their husbands, etc. Oh and about the Celibacy part, I believe that your statement is false. No where was it about reproducing at all. He was not going to get married because that would divert his attention from spreading the Word. Oh and to warri0r45 and Locke, the thing about the blashphemy against the Holy Spirit is said in the Bible, BUT you have to remember that God knows your true heart intents. That is a fine line right there. And now I probably wont post again on this or even look at it but remember there are gray areas to the Bible and Religions of all kinds. Please just let everyone believe what they want and just a thing to all those "Christians" out there:"Post what you know is to be known as the truth and if you are a true believer and a mature one at that, you know darn well to not be sparking anything that would upset anyone. So please debate in peace and behave well." *These are my views, and not anyone else's*