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Saru Inc

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  1. Saru Inc replied to Leoo's topic in Off-Topic
    Ummm, not really. I've always been interested in that part of the human psychology, but I'm also interested in learning about myself. These tests help you learn by testing the cognitive functions, it's really quite fascinating.
  2. Oh. It describes me EXACTLY irl. But I behave differently irl, compared to internet. I'm more ... mean. on the webz.
  3. Saru Inc replied to ValidLogic's topic in Off-Topic
    Ahhh ok. that makes sense. I was just giving my opinion of it :( I'd to take a moment to point that agnosticism is a position related to the existence of evidence, whilst a/theism is in regards to existence. Thus one is an a/theist, but can also be an agnostic a/theist. That out of the way, I felt your essay was far too ameri-centric. If you live there, that's understandable, but there are other countries out there. :wink: Some of which fully recognise same-sex marriages. Unfortunately, as history has proven, contradiction in religious texts seem to have little effect on the efficacy of people's beliefs. My personal belief is that opposition to homosexual rights in general springs from the wide spread of Abrahamic religions, though it's certainly present in other belief systems. I think it also has to do with the central importance, until very recently, of reproduction and primogeniture in 'modern' societies (I think this also plays a key role in the historical oppression of women, see here for details). Sexual repression can also be a key element of social control. Homosexuality (especially male) has predominantly been practiced to one degree of another by the ruling elite within a society, but the necessity of political marriages, etc has meant that it has generally not been afforded political sanction. Finally, it's always easy to scapegoat a minority. :wink: I would think it was supposed to be Americentric.
  4. Saru Inc replied to Leoo's topic in Off-Topic
    Guys doesn't this sound like me... ? lol :D [hide=Description] The Effervescent ENFp (In case you're wondering, ENFP = Extraverted, iNtuitive, Feeling, Perceiving. The four personality traits I share) By Topaz [ENFp] Never ask an ENFP to describe him or herself. Do you have a couple of days? What you will end up with is a vast collection of interesting contradictions. Why is that? It is because of the particular nature of this creative, unusual person. ENFPs greet the world expectantly. Outwardly to others an ENFP may seem like a happy chappy. They are easy going, easily pleased and interested in everything around them; especially people. ENFPs love people and will often bend to the needs and desires of others without asking much in return. They really enjoy listening to others, and to move the conversation along they can be quite revealing of their own experiences to get the other person to open up. It seems as if they give themselves away completely, but this is not quite true. The ENFP has dimensions to him or herself that are never revealed to anyone except for a very close and trusted companion. If such a companion is not found then they will feel lonely even though surrounded by good company. Don’t be fooled entirely by an ENFP’s interest in you, though. ENFPs are genuinely interested in people, but are also very interested in patterns of social behavior. ENFPs are a social scientist. They don’t need formulas and charts to be keep track of their findings. Information on the motivations and needs of people are constantly being added to the interior laboratory of ideas. ENFPs will often uses themselves as a crucible to determine the value and weight of others inner world. They will subtly test their subjects with questions and actions designed almost subconsciously to provoke a response. The split nature of the ENFP is to be involved and at the same time uninvolved, observing their ‘subject’ not unlike protozoa under a microscope. When and ENFP finds a group that is accepting of them they can be very funny, outspoken even brash in their comments. Sometimes they will use sweeping exaggerations to make the point and get a laugh. They love to give their opinion on any and all subject they find interesting. A funny twist is that if you listen long enough they will probably contradict all the things that they spoke so strongly about giving a completely different point of view. The ENFP is aware of the contradiction, but knows that there are many ways to view a subject and do not like to cancel out an opposing view too strongly. They do not like these contradictions pointed out to them in a critical manner. But keep in mind, the ENFP does this not because they cannot make up their mind on the subject, but they see a debate, or a conversation as what they see everything in life as. A learning experience, and a fun house. An ENFP will typically play the Devil's Advocate, or more precisely they'll employ socratic irony. They will feign ignorance of a topic, or make bold brash statements they know to be incorrect, in order to prove how ignorant the other side actually is. This speech is again used almost unconsciously to humorously provoke others in debate, to flesh out ideas and give their own insight. When no one swallows the bait, an ENFP may feel disappointed at least and horrified at worst that they may have been taken too seriously. ENFPs deeply cherish friends who listen for content and don’t take every word seriously. Despite any outward confidence they need reassurance that they are OK the way they are. Sometimes they find friends among people others consider misfits, nerds or eccentrics. One of the most quirkiest of character traits the ENFP contains is, the infamous silly switch. The ENFP can be very serious, motivated, and down to earth. however, one their "silly switch" is flipped, it's byebye birdy as they bring the world to it's knees in laughter. The ENFP will utilize their extroverted intuition to notice correlations and patterns that no one else notices. TO many INTP's and INTJ's dismay, they do not use this gift for academic purposes, but for comedic purposes. ENFPs tend to have a very dry wit, and unfortunately their jokes do tend to the sarcastic side, because they love the entire idea of sarcasm. ENFPs are famously pulled over by cops for driving drunk, or asked by various people during their silly switch trance "are you drunk?" A common response is "who needs alcohol, when you have reality?" (Or something akin in meaning) they love to love, and love to laugh. They see no point in being serious at all, nor do they think that you must be serious in order to learn. They can however flip the silly switch in the wrong times, and when they are angry as they switch it, they come out as a hate spewing machine spewing diatribes of sarcasm and cynicism on everyone they despise. This is especially noted (as stated in previous paragraph) if an ENFP feels a debate is going nowhere, they stop trying to be serious and intelligent, and just say what they think will get the biggest reaction -- and even more important -- the biggest laugh. ENFPs are very sensitive to other people. They love to win hearts and create harmony between themselves and others. This is not always accomplished, but the to a great extent an ENFP will maintain good relations with as many people as possible. There is benevolence to this, but also a practical reason. Breaking relations with others limits future possibilities. Who knows when you might need the good will of others? Therefore it is best to tactfully suppress conflict and keep things smooth. This does not mean that they always are nice to everyone. At times they may challenge and provoke, ignore or act contrary if that is what is needed to master a relationship. They are very creative in their approach to others and will change their behavior to draw people in or keep them at a distance. ENFPs often don’t realize the impact they can have on other people. They can quickly create a feeling of intimacy by their very personal approach. Problems arise when people become too possessive of the ENFPs time an attention. Nevertheless, until ENFPs learns to create healthy boundaries between themselves and others he or she will exhaust himself or herself, running around trying to be everywhere and please everyone. This trait of wanting to please everyone and guilt in turning down request is a life long battle. ENFP simply cannot completely be unaware of others needs and desires. Despite their happy-go-lucky, outward behavior ENFPs have high standards for themselves. Just as they see potential in others they see potential in themselves. They want desperately to actualize that potential to benefit not only them, but to set a good example for others to follow. They desire so much (too much?) and envision a sweet life where all the elements come together with friends, family, intimacy, sex, music, good food and freedom to pursue new worlds. Their striving for this utopia seems like pipe dreams to others and ENFPs know it. Still they cannot give up as their intuition pulls them headlong into the future. The greatest source and motivation for learning for the ENFP will come from other people. In school they will learn calculus to please a teacher they admire even though they are not naturally drawn to such subjects. ENFPs love to learn and when young are like sponges. Sometimes their brain runs so fast and continuous they can’t sleep at night. ENFPs hate boring, tedious office work. For some reason they often end up doing it from time to time, possibly because temp work allows them freedom to travel. Having time to do their own thing is very important and they would probably prefer time off than more money like some types. Oddly just because ENFPs like to please others does not mean they are conformist. Instead they are strong individualist. This is noticeable in the way they dress. For many ENFPs clothes is a vehicle of self-expression. Inner contradictions of self may take physical form as an ENFP may be going in many different directions with their clothing. ENFPs love bargains and may be seen wearing second hand clothes arranged masterfully (or not) into individual creations. The past is full of all kinds of wacky oddities that they like to plunder. They will often throw on a hat or jacket from days gone by to make a statement or to stand out as different. Like the INFP they may take on a hippie or bohemian style. If clothing is not very important, then they will just wear whatever is comfortable and might look quite plain with perhaps one odd feature sticking out. ENFPs love to collect oddities and novelties. They see potential and charm in all sorts of items. That these items never reach that potential is of little concern. Once an item is obtained it may be just as quickly forgotten and other treasures are pursued. ENFPs love beautiful objects despite its pedigree. The old and worn or new and modern may attract the eye and sense of touch. Self-control is a must or they might drown in the clutter. When a person or situation no longer carries any new information an ENFP may begin to loose interest and become bored. The more and ENFP matures the less likely this is because each moment presents an almost inexhaustible amount of information to be learned, even if it means learning to stop the search and enjoy the moment. Friendship with ENFPs can be a problem if you need a lot of consistency. They are there, full of life and personal attention and then they might be gone for days or weeks even months without much contact. When they show up again they like to pick up right where they left off. Then as mysteriously as they came they disappear again. Usually they are either two places, at home trying to catch up on all the work they’ve avoided or with other people somewhere. They find a great deal in life fascinating. Their enthusiasm to experience it all makes them restless and independent. They know they are different from most others around them and this makes them despondent occasionally. When all is said and done ENFPs want to shower affection upon someone who loves them and accepts them for who they really are, warts and all. ENFp by Function Ne: The first function of the ENFp is Ne, by which the essence of ideas arrive and insights into their development arise. With this function, it is possible to collect multiple perspectives, concepts, ideas, and beliefs in order to register into a readily available databank their entirety and the various conscious considerations concerning them as they stand in the abstract theoretical world and in order to derive a global picture of them. However, Ne also maintains an active neutral stance on all of the whole of its inputs, even if the whole of the input of one core belief, concept, or idea, conflicts with any of the other core beliefs, concepts, or ideas it remains non-biased and registers them all as equals. Probably the most powerful aspect of Ne is an ability to see potential in the most obscure forms and to believe in them. Being an extroverted function, Ne cannot derive data from within and must amass information from outside of itself and in the here and now to survive as a function or at all. Ni: The seventh function of the this type is Ni. Strong and lacking, it remains to the ENFp something to be loathed. Though some use may come from this function in the tracking of time, patterns, and simple predictions, this function remains the vehicle by which the old becomes abandoned and the new comes about. For the ENFp, Ni truly represents all that inferiority is and the uselessness of false potential, and so long as new beliefs emerge and there remains something to be considered, out with the old and in with the new! Loyalty to a strong qualified belief system will never interest an ENFp! Fi: The second function of the ENFp is Fi, by which subjective feeling substantiates itself through various ethical processes. With this function, it is possible to deconstruct and disassemble various levels of emotions, feelings, and moods in order to gauge a sense of their inner workings or how they habitually function. Probably the most powerful aspect of Fi is the forming of a subjective value system by which one uses to connect to others through a maintained and refined view of moral right, wrong, and good; other important features of this function include the ability to word statements and express emotions in the most concise and ethical manner that could be implemented to appeal to the ethical processes of others. Being an introverted function, Fi has an active ability to self-sustain itself and moves actively between an subjective emotional world located in the future and past in order to sustain itself as an active function. Fe: The eigth function of the this type is Fe. Strong and lacking, it remains to the ENFp something to be loathed. Though some use may come from this function in the tracking of events, patterns, and simple gauging of current emotions, this function remains the vehicle by which tradition establishes itself and the foreign get thrown out. For the ENFp, Fe truly represents all that inferiority is and the uselessness of false potential, and so long as old emotion is and there remains something to be cherished, traditional systematic ethics stands before the new! Disloyalty to a cherished, strong, and qualified system of personal emotionals will never interest an ENFp! Se: The third function of the ENFp is Se, by which the essence of experiences arrive and insights into their development arise. Since the ENFp type thrives in a world of abstract and non-concrete theoretical principles, it may be rendered difficult for this type to collect multiple physical sensations from the eyes, ears, nose, taste and touch in order to register into a readily available databank their entirety and the various conscious considerations concerning them. In result of this inability, expected behaviors should include a lack of motive concerning physical activities, lack of discipline, inability to control aggressive tendencies with unexpected outburst or extreme passivity and non-aggressive, pushing others without good reason or not pushing hard enough when needed, sluggishness and irresponsibility, lack of willpower and initiative, breaking down when put under pressure, shutting down during stressful situations, or inability to push talents and abilities. Si: The fifth function of the ENFp is Si, by which the essence of experiences arrive and insights into their development arise. Though be this a weak, unconscious, and influential function, it should find itself most active within the presence of one whose dominant function coincides, for it it seeks to be strong and may pretend to be such. At other times, an expression of this function may find itself in place of the weak and conscious Se function. Manifested bahaviours expected of this function should include experiencing uncontrollable flashbacks of negitive or distorted experiences, obsession with past experiences that seem to have a grip on current reality, having a compulsion to keeping things a certain way because they have a certain familiarity to them, not wanting to change the past, prone to inactivity and unwilling to change since that would mean wrecking or damaging the current and future experience,looking past people or things and walking around with distant and vague look in eye as though unaware of surroundings. Ti: The fourth function of the ENFp is Ti, by which objective logic substantiates itself through various thought processes. Since the ENFp type thrives in a world of ethical and non-logical and subjective principles, it may be rendered difficult for this type to deconstruct and disassemble various levels of thought, concepts, and ideas in order to gauge a sense of their inner workings or how they habitually function. In result of this inability, expected behaviors should include an inability to discern logically the good and bad parts of a concept or the logical importance of a concept, intentionally analyzing too much or not enough, unable to order task in a way that does not cause fatigue, becoming offended when logical mistakes or illogical nature is pointed out, and making impatient and rash decisions before analyzing a situation fully. Te: The sixth function of the ENFp is Te, by which objective logic substantiates itself through various thought processes. Though be this a weak, unconscious, and influential function, it should find itself most active within the presence of one whose dominant function coincides, for it it seeks to be strong and may pretend to be such. At other times, an expression of this function may find itself in place of the weak and conscious Ti function. Manifested bahaviours expected of this function should include seeming to be in the know about various trends, but has a convulted logic that distorts itself over a period of time, prone to spreading exaggerated gossip that may cause embarrassment, attempts at understanding the logic of others produces childish results, habitually and continually misses the point of someone else's line of thought, spending a great deal of time attempting to substantiate own logic, having a fondness for talking notes or writting in journals in a way that catches attention, attacking the logic of others without substantiating own logic, prone to extreme vagueness.[/hide]
  5. Oh. Don't be gay. I've not started training hunter yet. OK GUYS Does this sound like me? YES OR NO The Effervescent ENFp (In case you're wondering, ENFP = Extraverted, iNtuitive, Feeling, Perceiving. The four personality traits I share) By Topaz [ENFp] Never ask an ENFP to describe him or herself. Do you have a couple of days? What you will end up with is a vast collection of interesting contradictions. Why is that? It is because of the particular nature of this creative, unusual person. ENFPs greet the world expectantly. Outwardly to others an ENFP may seem like a happy chappy. They are easy going, easily pleased and interested in everything around them; especially people. ENFPs love people and will often bend to the needs and desires of others without asking much in return. They really enjoy listening to others, and to move the conversation along they can be quite revealing of their own experiences to get the other person to open up. It seems as if they give themselves away completely, but this is not quite true. The ENFP has dimensions to him or herself that are never revealed to anyone except for a very close and trusted companion. If such a companion is not found then they will feel lonely even though surrounded by good company. Dont be fooled entirely by an ENFPs interest in you, though. ENFPs are genuinely interested in people, but are also very interested in patterns of social behavior. ENFPs are a social scientist. They dont need formulas and charts to be keep track of their findings. Information on the motivations and needs of people are constantly being added to the interior laboratory of ideas. ENFPs will often uses themselves as a crucible to determine the value and weight of others inner world. They will subtly test their subjects with questions and actions designed almost subconsciously to provoke a response. The split nature of the ENFP is to be involved and at the same time uninvolved, observing their subject not unlike protozoa under a microscope. When and ENFP finds a group that is accepting of them they can be very funny, outspoken even brash in their comments. Sometimes they will use sweeping exaggerations to make the point and get a laugh. They love to give their opinion on any and all subject they find interesting. A funny twist is that if you listen long enough they will probably contradict all the things that they spoke so strongly about giving a completely different point of view. The ENFP is aware of the contradiction, but knows that there are many ways to view a subject and do not like to cancel out an opposing view too strongly. They do not like these contradictions pointed out to them in a critical manner. But keep in mind, the ENFP does this not because they cannot make up their mind on the subject, but they see a debate, or a conversation as what they see everything in life as. A learning experience, and a fun house. An ENFP will typically play the Devil's Advocate, or more precisely they'll employ socratic irony. They will feign ignorance of a topic, or make bold brash statements they know to be incorrect, in order to prove how ignorant the other side actually is. This speech is again used almost unconsciously to humorously provoke others in debate, to flesh out ideas and give their own insight. When no one swallows the bait, an ENFP may feel disappointed at least and horrified at worst that they may have been taken too seriously. ENFPs deeply cherish friends who listen for content and dont take every word seriously. Despite any outward confidence they need reassurance that they are OK the way they are. Sometimes they find friends among people others consider misfits, nerds or eccentrics. One of the most quirkiest of character traits the ENFP contains is, the infamous silly switch. The ENFP can be very serious, motivated, and down to earth. however, one their "silly switch" is flipped, it's byebye birdy as they bring the world to it's knees in laughter. The ENFP will utilize their extroverted intuition to notice correlations and patterns that no one else notices. TO many INTP's and INTJ's dismay, they do not use this gift for academic purposes, but for comedic purposes. ENFPs tend to have a very dry wit, and unfortunately their jokes do tend to the sarcastic side, because they love the entire idea of sarcasm. ENFPs are famously pulled over by cops for driving drunk, or asked by various people during their silly switch trance "are you drunk?" A common response is "who needs alcohol, when you have reality?" (Or something akin in meaning) they love to love, and love to laugh. They see no point in being serious at all, nor do they think that you must be serious in order to learn. They can however flip the silly switch in the wrong times, and when they are angry as they switch it, they come out as a hate spewing machine spewing diatribes of sarcasm and cynicism on everyone they despise. This is especially noted (as stated in previous paragraph) if an ENFP feels a debate is going nowhere, they stop trying to be serious and intelligent, and just say what they think will get the biggest reaction -- and even more important -- the biggest laugh. ENFPs are very sensitive to other people. They love to win hearts and create harmony between themselves and others. This is not always accomplished, but the to a great extent an ENFP will maintain good relations with as many people as possible. There is benevolence to this, but also a practical reason. Breaking relations with others limits future possibilities. Who knows when you might need the good will of others? Therefore it is best to tactfully suppress conflict and keep things smooth. This does not mean that they always are nice to everyone. At times they may challenge and provoke, ignore or act contrary if that is what is needed to master a relationship. They are very creative in their approach to others and will change their behavior to draw people in or keep them at a distance. ENFPs often dont realize the impact they can have on other people. They can quickly create a feeling of intimacy by their very personal approach. Problems arise when people become too possessive of the ENFPs time an attention. Nevertheless, until ENFPs learns to create healthy boundaries between themselves and others he or she will exhaust himself or herself, running around trying to be everywhere and please everyone. This trait of wanting to please everyone and guilt in turning down request is a life long battle. ENFP simply cannot completely be unaware of others needs and desires. Despite their happy-go-lucky, outward behavior ENFPs have high standards for themselves. Just as they see potential in others they see potential in themselves. They want desperately to actualize that potential to benefit not only them, but to set a good example for others to follow. They desire so much (too much?) and envision a sweet life where all the elements come together with friends, family, intimacy, sex, music, good food and freedom to pursue new worlds. Their striving for this utopia seems like pipe dreams to others and ENFPs know it. Still they cannot give up as their intuition pulls them headlong into the future. The greatest source and motivation for learning for the ENFP will come from other people. In school they will learn calculus to please a teacher they admire even though they are not naturally drawn to such subjects. ENFPs love to learn and when young are like sponges. Sometimes their brain runs so fast and continuous they cant sleep at night. ENFPs hate boring, tedious office work. For some reason they often end up doing it from time to time, possibly because temp work allows them freedom to travel. Having time to do their own thing is very important and they would probably prefer time off than more money like some types. Oddly just because ENFPs like to please others does not mean they are conformist. Instead they are strong individualist. This is noticeable in the way they dress. For many ENFPs clothes is a vehicle of self-expression. Inner contradictions of self may take physical form as an ENFP may be going in many different directions with their clothing. ENFPs love bargains and may be seen wearing second hand clothes arranged masterfully (or not) into individual creations. The past is full of all kinds of wacky oddities that they like to plunder. They will often throw on a hat or jacket from days gone by to make a statement or to stand out as different. Like the INFP they may take on a hippie or bohemian style. If clothing is not very important, then they will just wear whatever is comfortable and might look quite plain with perhaps one odd feature sticking out. ENFPs love to collect oddities and novelties. They see potential and charm in all sorts of items. That these items never reach that potential is of little concern. Once an item is obtained it may be just as quickly forgotten and other treasures are pursued. ENFPs love beautiful objects despite its pedigree. The old and worn or new and modern may attract the eye and sense of touch. Self-control is a must or they might drown in the clutter. When a person or situation no longer carries any new information an ENFP may begin to loose interest and become bored. The more and ENFP matures the less likely this is because each moment presents an almost inexhaustible amount of information to be learned, even if it means learning to stop the search and enjoy the moment. Friendship with ENFPs can be a problem if you need a lot of consistency. They are there, full of life and personal attention and then they might be gone for days or weeks even months without much contact. When they show up again they like to pick up right where they left off. Then as mysteriously as they came they disappear again. Usually they are either two places, at home trying to catch up on all the work theyve avoided or with other people somewhere. They find a great deal in life fascinating. Their enthusiasm to experience it all makes them restless and independent. They know they are different from most others around them and this makes them despondent occasionally. When all is said and done ENFPs want to shower affection upon someone who loves them and accepts them for who they really are, warts and all. ENFp by Function Ne: The first function of the ENFp is Ne, by which the essence of ideas arrive and insights into their development arise. With this function, it is possible to collect multiple perspectives, concepts, ideas, and beliefs in order to register into a readily available databank their entirety and the various conscious considerations concerning them as they stand in the abstract theoretical world and in order to derive a global picture of them. However, Ne also maintains an active neutral stance on all of the whole of its inputs, even if the whole of the input of one core belief, concept, or idea, conflicts with any of the other core beliefs, concepts, or ideas it remains non-biased and registers them all as equals. Probably the most powerful aspect of Ne is an ability to see potential in the most obscure forms and to believe in them. Being an extroverted function, Ne cannot derive data from within and must amass information from outside of itself and in the here and now to survive as a function or at all. Ni: The seventh function of the this type is Ni. Strong and lacking, it remains to the ENFp something to be loathed. Though some use may come from this function in the tracking of time, patterns, and simple predictions, this function remains the vehicle by which the old becomes abandoned and the new comes about. For the ENFp, Ni truly represents all that inferiority is and the uselessness of false potential, and so long as new beliefs emerge and there remains something to be considered, out with the old and in with the new! Loyalty to a strong qualified belief system will never interest an ENFp! Fi: The second function of the ENFp is Fi, by which subjective feeling substantiates itself through various ethical processes. With this function, it is possible to deconstruct and disassemble various levels of emotions, feelings, and moods in order to gauge a sense of their inner workings or how they habitually function. Probably the most powerful aspect of Fi is the forming of a subjective value system by which one uses to connect to others through a maintained and refined view of moral right, wrong, and good; other important features of this function include the ability to word statements and express emotions in the most concise and ethical manner that could be implemented to appeal to the ethical processes of others. Being an introverted function, Fi has an active ability to self-sustain itself and moves actively between an subjective emotional world located in the future and past in order to sustain itself as an active function. Fe: The eigth function of the this type is Fe. Strong and lacking, it remains to the ENFp something to be loathed. Though some use may come from this function in the tracking of events, patterns, and simple gauging of current emotions, this function remains the vehicle by which tradition establishes itself and the foreign get thrown out. For the ENFp, Fe truly represents all that inferiority is and the uselessness of false potential, and so long as old emotion is and there remains something to be cherished, traditional systematic ethics stands before the new! Disloyalty to a cherished, strong, and qualified system of personal emotionals will never interest an ENFp! Se: The third function of the ENFp is Se, by which the essence of experiences arrive and insights into their development arise. Since the ENFp type thrives in a world of abstract and non-concrete theoretical principles, it may be rendered difficult for this type to collect multiple physical sensations from the eyes, ears, nose, taste and touch in order to register into a readily available databank their entirety and the various conscious considerations concerning them. In result of this inability, expected behaviors should include a lack of motive concerning physical activities, lack of discipline, inability to control aggressive tendencies with unexpected outburst or extreme passivity and non-aggressive, pushing others without good reason or not pushing hard enough when needed, sluggishness and irresponsibility, lack of willpower and initiative, breaking down when put under pressure, shutting down during stressful situations, or inability to push talents and abilities. Si: The fifth function of the ENFp is Si, by which the essence of experiences arrive and insights into their development arise. Though be this a weak, unconscious, and influential function, it should find itself most active within the presence of one whose dominant function coincides, for it it seeks to be strong and may pretend to be such. At other times, an expression of this function may find itself in place of the weak and conscious Se function. Manifested bahaviours expected of this function should include experiencing uncontrollable flashbacks of negitive or distorted experiences, obsession with past experiences that seem to have a grip on current reality, having a compulsion to keeping things a certain way because they have a certain familiarity to them, not wanting to change the past, prone to inactivity and unwilling to change since that would mean wrecking or damaging the current and future experience,looking past people or things and walking around with distant and vague look in eye as though unaware of surroundings. Ti: The fourth function of the ENFp is Ti, by which objective logic substantiates itself through various thought processes. Since the ENFp type thrives in a world of ethical and non-logical and subjective principles, it may be rendered difficult for this type to deconstruct and disassemble various levels of thought, concepts, and ideas in order to gauge a sense of their inner workings or how they habitually function. In result of this inability, expected behaviors should include an inability to discern logically the good and bad parts of a concept or the logical importance of a concept, intentionally analyzing too much or not enough, unable to order task in a way that does not cause fatigue, becoming offended when logical mistakes or illogical nature is pointed out, and making impatient and rash decisions before analyzing a situation fully. Te: The sixth function of the ENFp is Te, by which objective logic substantiates itself through various thought processes. Though be this a weak, unconscious, and influential function, it should find itself most active within the presence of one whose dominant function coincides, for it it seeks to be strong and may pretend to be such. At other times, an expression of this function may find itself in place of the weak and conscious Ti function. Manifested bahaviours expected of this function should include seeming to be in the know about various trends, but has a convulted logic that distorts itself over a period of time, prone to spreading exaggerated gossip that may cause embarrassment, attempts at understanding the logic of others produces childish results, habitually and continually misses the point of someone else's line of thought, spending a great deal of time attempting to substantiate own logic, having a fondness for talking notes or writting in journals in a way that catches attention, attacking the logic of others without substantiating own logic, prone to extreme vagueness. ________________________________________ Because of the structureof various function, it is not uncommon for a person to be confused or undecided between various types and even between the usage of various functions. The following is a functional description of various types that an actual ENFp may become confused or undecided between. INTp - An ENFp may find him or her self activelly undecided between the INTp type and his or her native ENFp type. Because the sixth function of the ENFp is Te, it is not uncommon for one to confuse the second creative function (Fi) for that function. When this occurs, an ENFp may have problems deciding between those ethical and logical functions. In even more complex situations, an ENFp may demonstrate what appears to be a false lack of Fe, which corresponds to the fourth weakest function of the INTp. In this instances, the way to discern between these two types and to choose the correct one is to determine whether you activelly use Ne or Ni. If you use Ne more than you use Ni, you are an ENFp. If you use Ni more than you use Ne, you could really be an INTp. ENTj - An ENFp may confuse him or her self for a ENTj for the same reason that one would confuse his or her self for an INTp. If you use Ne more than you use Ni, you are probably an ENFp. If you use Ni more than you use Ne, you could really be an ENTj. ENTp - An ENFp usually becomes confused between this type and his or her native ENFp when he or she has decided upon being an extrovert, determined self as a perceiving type, and has been having some influence from the sixth function, while not really being sure if that function is introverted or extroverted. In this senerio, instead of a ENFp confusing his or her self for an INTp the extroverted or introverted type has been substituted. In this instance, the way to discern between these two types and to choose the correct one is to determine whether you activelly use more Te or Ti. If you use Te more than you use Ti, you are probably an ENFp. If you use Ti more than you use Te, you could really be an ENTp. INFp - Because of the influence of MBTI, some new to socionic's theory may ignorantly think that the correct way to switch between introverted and extroverted types is to simply switch an E to an I or an I to an E. This is not the correct way to switch back and forth between the two in socionics. If you are an INFp in MBTI with an emphasis on expressing Ne and Fi, your actual socionics type is either an ENFp if you choose to stay a perceiving type or INFj if you find that you might want to consider being a socionic's judging type . On the otherhand, if the above ENFp description does not relate to you and you functionally express Ni and Fe, INFp is still an option, though be warned that socionics does not totally follow the same logic as MBTI does when determining J and P nor do the same stereotypical rules apply when attempting to determine introversion and extroversion. If you are familiar with MBTI, the possibility of having to type yourself totally diffrent than MBTI should be a definite expectation.
  6. Thanks guys! And bladewing was being a goof, I was cha-cha-chattin him up while I was grinding down the last xp.
  7. Saru Inc replied to Skull's topic in Off-Topic
    That looks... Amazingly disgusting. For lunch: Tuna Salad. No eggs. *allergic* Just tuna, mayo, grapes, celery, and some bread.
  8. !! No one said it yet! I get to say it first! I remember when there weren't "Do you remember" threads every 2 pages. On a more serious note, I do believe there is already a topic on this. On an on topic note: Karamja Lobster fishing Typing in green on RSC because all level ups were green, so you'd trick people into thinking they level'd. When Dragon Slayer was an epic quest When Pures came out When you could choose classes when you started. (saruman44 was a miner) When only one freaking person could talk to a banker at one time >.> When certs were used. When everyone thought Farming Boots actually did something. I sold 2 for 400k each. teehee.
  9. Saru Inc replied to Leoo's topic in Off-Topic
    *sigh* I love that movie. Anyways: Today I did my computer homework. I also washed my car, inside and out.
  10. Saru Inc replied to ValidLogic's topic in Off-Topic
    Maybe, but maybe not. I find Atheists do this a lot (sorry, it's nothing personal... Seriously) They say "why does GOD HAVE to have created the Universe? Why couldn't it have been the Big bang?" Well... Why couldn't it have been God? "THERES NO PROOF!" Well... How do you know he didn't create the Universe, and choose to idk, have the planets move in outwards directions like an explosion. Maybe the Human mind can't handle the true powerfulness of an Almighty God, and so they say it was an act of nature, because they can comprehend that. ---- Again Ring World, that doesn't really have anything to do with you at all, and is in fact a bit off topic. But I've been meaning to bring that up for a while. (And because this thread is for Gay Rights Essay, I'd be happy to debate any of these points I posted via pm with anyone who wants to -- it's really just food for thought)
  11. Saru Inc replied to ValidLogic's topic in Off-Topic
    That's actually (no offence) an elementary view of the Soddom of Gomorrah. I've studied that, and that is not why God destroyed the cities. There are two major factors to it: One: (The biggest one) The citizens did not respect the Guests of God, nor any guests. One.Five: They cared not for the poor and the poverty stricken, only relishing in their gluttony. Two: They attempted to impose their sexual promiscuity *which also distressed God, but was not related to Homosexuality at all* on the Angels of the Lord. Homosexuality honestly had nothing to do with it. Has anyone here read the story of Ruth? It's popularly held that she had a lesbian lover, when her husband died. And she loved the Lord, and the Lord loved her.
  12. Saru Inc replied to ValidLogic's topic in Off-Topic
    -- Don't be upset -- But, watch your phrases. I think the words "I have heard, have been brought up, etc." were used just a bit too often, a little more variety in that department would make the essay seem more real. On the actual content, I mean, I guess I agree? Don't I have to? But I will say this, my opinion is, if you are trying to defeat an enemy, you must fight on their turf. This comes into the essay in that when debating Religion, I believe you should have gone for more of "in their shoes" approach. I did see a little bit of this, but one of the first sentences perturbed me a bit "...but God didn't write the Bible." And that is the issue, Christians believe God DID write the Bible. Though every word was written by Human hands, every single word came from God himself. But I'm only pro marriage because when I meet the man I want to marry, I'm going to want to marry. I actually don't really care about all those economics. Well, I care, but that wouldn't even be a major reason at all.
  13. You are lost to me. Is this really where your heart has led you? I've actually taken to banning people off the TF2 server I frequent because of how annoying it is. My roomate has "U Mad Bro" as his emblem on his gun in COD:BO. I find it hilarious. I think it's one of the few memes that are actually used effectively, because, well, you ARE mad, bro. Well I like Force Unleashed. But yea.. You just need to know how to use it.
  14. I dare say, you are wrong sir. 4 billion means ALOT more ugg'os than whatever amount of hot gingers roam this fine planet. I need to get more pictures from /s/ that are appropriate for this thread. Too much nudity. [i immediately retract that last sentence] In anycase, this topic needs some hot celebrities/models that are infact hot. Case in point: this wench She looks like a reed head kesha. Someone get her a shower. STAT
  15. Knew it. I could also tell from your sig. Either that, or fire is a fetish of yours.
  16. No. Learn patience, you can live 2 weeks without an update. He didn't say he couldn't, he was making an observation. I've basically stopped playing rs, so I don't mind.
  17. SO are they actually resetting? Or was this just sailing 2010 winter version?
  18. Saru Inc replied to Leoo's topic in Off-Topic
    I knew you would say that. :D
  19. I feel underrepresented :{} Though I must say -- Even if I was straight, I don't get the obsessed with asians kick. I can understand redheads I think....
  20. Saru Inc replied to Leoo's topic in Off-Topic
    Its so weird when people refer to February as hot. o.O
  21. Star Wars. All inclusive.

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