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why not the full set? i happen to do very well with a flail in hand, no magic used on any of the brothers. also no prayer potions used, but that's just me. it's a matter of personal preference, i suppose :D Verac's Full set with flail is for higher levels, some what costly because one needs to pray on all the brothers, but the profit comes from ALL the runes rather than some, which offsets the extra cost of the p pots. and high prayer level will help save money too.

few things that will help you in making profit when barrowing : 1. NEVER EVER pray on all brothers. Ahrim is optional, but mage Torag and Guthan in Melee armor. 2. Prayer outfit will save a dose or 2 of prayer, again profitable in the long run. Verac's armor is good for both being a melee armor and prayer booster (NOT the full set, just the head, armor and legs) 3. get your kc to at least 10, so you can get blood runes, these will give you very healthy income (for me, 200 [4] prayer pots costed me 1.6m, and that is equivalent to 3k bloods, about 80 runs. if you do it correctly, you should, at most, only use 1 prayer pot per run, assume we use 60, thats all the money back AND 140 left over, not even counting the barrow pieces and chaos runes you might sell).

i will contact you first if i decide to sell one. you will be first if i barrow it :P

did you get him to tell you that he ate an evil stew? if not, just try every dialogue option and he will eventually tell you that. if he did, talk to her mother upstairs, she will tell you that all rats ate the spices, and off you go.

he ate an evil stew, what you have to do is get your cat and start eating the rats in the room dave is in, and try each colour spice on a stew and talk to him, he will tell you what spice is right or wrong, there are 4 coloured spices.

hmm.... that is what i am thinking, would the expense of the crystals outweigh the speed of its training? also since i have the access to multiple crystal bows, would it even be worth considering to keep Karil's Bow? or should i sell it?

money shouldnt be a problem, i am already down to 360k for recharge, 1 more and its 180k. Any other inputs?

I am currently on 71 ranged, and would like to get it up a bit. would a Crystal Bow be faster than a Magic Short on Steel arrows? And would C Bow be an effective bow at my level to train with? ty!

chompy requires the completion of Big Chompy Bird hunting quest. the only place i know with rabbits are in Tirannwn, requires regicide (not completion) to access.

that --illegal third party program-- part is probably forum filter. Just ignore it, thats what i would do..

strange.. karil hurts me far more than ahrim, well i suppose because i usually kill ahrim very much quicker than karil, which is why i dont pray him...

The thing about using Veracs to Barrow is that only 115+'s do it. I don't think ppl with lower levels than that can do it efficiently. i didnt say barrow using verac's set special, note that i mentioned verac's set as an armor to wear while maging. I wear full veracs minus flail to mage the melee and ranger.

Try not to use Mage outfit unless you really have money to burn, because praying all the brothers is a complete waste of money. Kill the lesser 3 without prayer potting (Guthan, torag and ahrim, wear melee armor and mage guth and torag, and range ahrim). I have found absolutely no benefit of wearing full mage outfit. the only thing i saw was i needed more prayer pots (which is a waste of money, because food is cheaper). Verac's set is good for both melee protection and prayer bonus, as well as having less magic penalty.

Which quest allows the access to the Elf Teleport Crystal? I am guessing Regicide, but i could be very wrong. Also is killing elves the only way to get these crystals?

just double making sure my theory is correct, i know about the ring of forging. thanks a lot!

Last question (they just keep coming eh? i still got plenty to learn for a member... been there for 2 months so far) Say you have a 'cheap' seed, and you buy a new bow, you use it up, that seed will also charge 'cheap'? at least the bows wont burn my pocket too fast...

Few more :P 1. Does that mean that regardless as to what price say player a is recharging his seed at, if he trades it to player B, he will have to pay 900k (etc.) from the start on the same seed? (assuming that player B also has a seed that recharges at 180k) 2. If i bought a new bow for 900k, does that mean recharging it first time will cost 900k as well? 3. You cannot charge a partially used bow, only a seed, correct?

1. Do i need to complete roving elves to wield the C bows? 2. If i would like to get a new C bow, must i buy them for 900k for can i get the seeds elsewhere? If i can get the seeds elsewhere, would the prices of recharge of the bows start at the top again down or would it become the same as my original c bow? 3. Where can i get the seeds other than buying from the elf? thanks! off topic... why does C Bows need 'only' 50 agility when one of the quests that you need to access the c bow need 56 agility?

More like 15 seconds, you have 5 spell casts in between casts. Bring a few prayer pots as your prayer will drain very quickly (especially at the tunnel) And Use fire bolt with chaos gaunts, that would be your most powerful spell at your mage level.

metal armors are magic magnets, they let magic him them BETTER than without one, so any people with metal armor would be great. Guards in varrock aint too shabby either, nor is the black knights just outside their fortress, 3 of them there and there are fences that you can take as cover.

That would be a total waste of money, 16 damage for over 300 gp per cast and 17 damage for about 600gp per cast? Try Fire Bolt with Chaos Gaunts, less than 200 gp per cast and does 15. I used it before i got 55 slayer, fire Blast was a waste of air runes and i couldnt keep up with the death runes from the chest, with chaos runes i was able to make money from all of the runes.

it depends on whether my run is either fresh trip or re-run (which i very often do because of left over monk fish) in the case of former, 0-1, depending on how much bad luck i have on that day. I only pray on Dharok, Verac and Karil. If either of these 3 are in the tunnel, up to 2 more. If Karil is tunnel, its definitely 2, because as a rule i NEVER fight him anywhere but at the chest. (I am also on the process of writing a guide for the safe spots in the tunnel, and not the ones you can see) If i am doing a re-run, it will take about 4 does per run, add 1 more if any of the nasty 3 (D, K & V) are in the tunnels. i bring 4 [4] pots with me per trip, i never ran out of p pots before i ran out of food...

i would imagine so, otherwise there wouldnt be many people looting if that wasnt the case (monster drops will be looted before they become visable anyway...)

Goblin Mining Helmet? It is a light source that you can wear on your head. you can only get it by killing the goblins by the mines in the lumbridge caves (access is granted during the Lost Tribe quest). It needs Firemaking of 65 to light, and becomes untradable when lit. Not many people sell or buy those so the prices on them are unknown.

about 90-100 on the official forums, i think. it is definitely worth more than 70ea.