Everything posted by chenw
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crystal bow, karlis x bow, barrows and other stuff!
the crystal bow question i have no idea, i dont have the bow, but i dont think you can recharge a partly used bow... Karil's Bow is more powerful than Rune arrows with Magic Short, same speed, better bonus, but the bolts are not re-usable and requires repair. With your stats, your first run will probably need 0 pots, but i am working from wearing a prayer outfit here (i found Verac's armor set to be extremely effective. Provides good melee defence for the lesser brothers, very good prayer bonus for the nasties, and less magic penalties) Though i recommend getting your magic up to at least lv 80 so you can hit 18 with darts. Ahrim's staff is worth 100k for a reason, because it autocasts what 90% of the other staff autocasts (the elemental strikes, bolts, blasts and waves), provides no runes and is 2 handed I dont know what your question on slayer staff is, but you need lv 55 slayer to wield it, and it can autocast magic dart, crumble undead and the wave spells. EDIT : Your subsequent runs (restarting a run without banking) will take about 2-3 doses, 4 to be safe. I recommend you to wear prayer outfit and not mage outfit because having +100 mage bonus is about the same as having -5, because the brothers are so not resistant to mage that you will still hit them 24/7 with -5 mage bonus, especially at higher levels. If you use prayer outfit, you can definitely save more on p pots, making your trips last longer and save you money in the long run. you may also want to consider bringing a holy wrench (Rum Deal quest reward, when it is in your inv, everytime you drink a pot that restores prayer, it will restore 1 more than normal)
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temple of ikov
i used the bank trips, teleport runes is handy, either camelot or ardy would do nicely.
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Help with herbs
fire giants, if you have a guthan set, i found is a good way to obtain high level herbs, and the brimhaven dungeon is usually uncrowded. if that doesnt suit, then just range the chaos druid warriors down in the yanille dungeon, not too far from a bank and its nearly almost empty.
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Greegrees?
there should only be 4 greegree's, Zombie, Karamjan Monkey, Ninja and Gorilla Greegree's, there is no other monkeys or apes you can make your greegree out of (unless you can kill Awowogei)
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Some barrows questions?
I still dont recommend using deaths, use chaos instead, you will hit more accurately and saves you money
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Ectophial
it's strictly not needed to have it when you get there, because there is a bank in port phasmatys that you could just withdraw it there and then talk to her. Although DO make sure that you have 1 somewhere.
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i want to know.............
eh? There is no quest needed for a Mage's Book, it's a (very high priced for its use) reward from the Mage Training Arena
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Some barrows questions?
1. Yes you can do barrows but it will not be an effective way to make money. 2. Range Ahrim, his melee defence is too good for your level. 3. Wind Blast (and all blast spells for that matter) is a waste of money, get your mage to lv 59 so you can complete the Family Crest quest, which allows you to use Chaos Gauntlets, a much cheaper option. Otherwise level your slayer up to lv 55 to access slayer dart, again not recommended until you have a higher mage level. Right now, Fire Bolt is your best option (1 less damage, but half the cost of runes) 4. 10-15 KC is a good number, but if your food runs out before that, hit the chest immediately. NB : for your level, when racking up kill counts, always get to the chest room, kill the brother when you open it, THEN get your kill count up, otherwise you will run the risk of running out of food when fighting against the last brother. Same with prayer pots, if you run out of it before you kill ALL of the brothers, go to a bank and take more before continuing. I suggest 10 prayer pots for you. Also read Satenza's Guide to Barrows for Lower levels, it can be found in the Archive of Wisdom in General P2P, it's a sticky.
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Need monster drops of black mystic
Boots : Infernal Mage
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~Socc's Guide To starting the barrows~
Though rough estimate Slayer dart could get you about 2-3 trips, because it kills faster and so uses less p pots and would be able to stay there for longer Also Socc, I would recommend that you should have at least lv 70 magic to go with slayer dart, because the damage of the slayer dart is indeed 10 + first digit of your magic level. Being able to do 16 damage isnt all that much different from being able to do 15 (Fire Bolt with Chaos Gauntlets), so it would be more economical to stick with Fire Bolt until at least 70. 80 would be good because you can do 18. I hope you dont mind advices on a guide thread :P
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Construction : study rooms.
That Elemental orb doesnt allow you to add an orb to the staff, it merely allows you to change the element of the staff when there is an orb already on it. I dont see how it actually contributes to crafting at all. I could be wrong, as my research into construction is somewhat limited
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Counting Dust Devil kills
click counter is a thing where if you click it once, it adds 1 number to the display, so you can keep track of how many times you clicked. I dont know where you could get one though...
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Help on leveling up bad skills.
your strength isnt bad for your level (my strength is lowest of the 3 melee combat skills, i value accuracy and defence more over strength, or because i couldnt be bothered to train with anything but a whip :P) For Runecrafting, Craft body runes, it is one of the best ways for an f2p to level RC now. After you hit about 44, try going to the official forums and apply to be a crafter for world 16 air company. Basically you pay people money to give you unnoted rune ess, and you make your money back from the air runes you sell. Costs a bit, but it is much faster than crafting them all on your own. Prayer is definitely hard to level because most of the giant training spots will be taken, but if you search for the wildy map, there is a place around lv 20 wildy called death gorge, which has 3 big bone spawns, so you can train your prayer there. try not to wear anything, and just brin food to stay there longer. if any pk's come, punch them until they give you a lumbridge teleport, repeat the process. Ranged at your level i think i trained it at the hill giants. it's been so long... you would probably get a bit of flaming, but you could always ignore people.
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Barrows?
try and see if you can invest some money into willow logs and train your fletching to 70, after that alch yew longs, it got my mage from 70 (or thereabouts) to 81. Defence is your priority if you want to do barrows sooner, as well as your mage. I would think that 70 range is a necessity due to that Ahrim hits hard, so if you want to conserve on prayer pots, you need to wear the best anti-mage equip you can get, which is Kari's Leather outfit (if you cant afford that, black d hide). Again, Defence first, as it is the most important skill in barrows if you are not going to pray on the 2 lesser melee brothers (Guthan and Torag) to maximise profit.
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best money maker
you can get 1 billion p hats per second? didnt you think about how much the p hats would deflate? :P (it would probably worth less than 1gp_
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my first attempt at barrows
I wasnt exactly flaming, i was only giving advice such that he would not make the same mistake again, is that wrong?
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my first attempt at barrows
Doesnt matter what sort of confidence you have, when you are NOT praying on a brother, make sure that you have met him at least 30 times before you make your judgment. Also never EVER fight a brother with no armor (i am assuming that you are using monk's robes at the time, as per Satenza's guide), if you want to fight a melee brother with no prayer, make sure you wear rune armor, legs and kite before you think about it. Also, overconfidence, as well as ignorance, kills people in the Barrow runs. Never underestimate them. Yes tip's site said that he is the easiest brother, but EASIEST and EASY are not the same word.
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Smithing for range
Knives would be a good bet, fast and cheap (dont need another ingredient, only 5 knives per bar though). My other choice is arrows, darts are not worth the effort because they take too much feather (4 per dart i think)
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Family Crest, am I ready?
the safe spot should be somewhere near a pillar thingy south of Chronozon (which is incidentally the Earth Obelisk)
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best magic line up
Zammy book is more like 800kish, the other books sounds fine though. Infinity Needs lv 50 mage and 25 defence to equip, nearly 10m worth, and not worth the money IMHO, only the boots are useful (best mage bonus boots) And mage book also has +15 mage attack and defence, again not worth the money unless you are rich and dont know what to spend on. Get 70 mage and defence, and the ultimate Mage Outfit is at your side : Ahrim's Robes, around 2m and is best mage outfit, completely handsdown.
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Barrowing with snare/entangle
Entangle and Freeze spells serve nearly no purpose, since holding the brothers will not stop your prayer run out. In fact the time taken to cast Entangle-type spells will actually increase the usage of prayer pots because you are down in the crypt for longer. You have about 5 casts in between Prayer Drains, increasing the number of spells casted will increase the number of times your prayer becomes drained, and result in MORE prayer loss. This is completely counter-productive, and thus pray/mage is the best way to go about it. Freezing a target while you are praying at the same time means you are wasting your time and runes. If you don't pray, then you run into the risk of being hit badly if the brother gets you in between freezes, which again wastes food. I am not even including the time needed to run around in the crypts... so in my opinion, avoid the entangle spells. I also find the freezing effect of the ancient magicks to be only useful against torag and guthan (when you are maging in melee armor).
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gonna do my fist barrows soon!
Plus the only way to melee them is to use Verac's full set, of which you cant use at the moment. If you wish, Bolt Spells with Chaos Gauntlets are superior to Blast spells for accuracy and economic reason, I was using it all the time before i got my Magic Dart (and that was like 100 runs). 10 KC s a good number, the experiment Satenza is doing at the moment has some tables of drops from the chest versus the kill count number. I have found that getting 15 KC isnt all that much hassle to do (it takes about 2-3 minutes for me), but the chest drops are far superior in the long run because you can get bloods and bolt racks, as well as increased chance of death, all of which can be sold or kept at your disgression. I recommend keeping the bolt racks. For the first few runs, you should pray through all the brothers to get yourself farmiliar with the tunnel, after that, you can stop praying on the lesser 3 (Torag, Guthan and Ahrim, mage the first 2 in melee armor, and range the last).
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Barrows Story
I madea profit and im lower lv than that Only cos you got a drop. To make a prifit you must come out even on runes or above each time. Which is impossible a lvl 70's. I second that, The only way to make profit is by using prayer pots only when you ran out of prayer before killing the nasty 3, if you need prayer pots for the lesser 3, you will drink up to 5 times as much prayer pots as you would if didnt pray on the last 3. thats maybe 3 doses compared to 15 doses. thats 28k difference per run, and thats not including food costs, which would jack up the costs per run to 40k each run. 40k sometimes isnt even covered by the runes themselves, so you lose money a lot of the time. I still find, at my combat level, that they hit too often for my liking.
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Monkfish
it is a food for people that want to be self sufficient, then its very good. for money making, try lobsters and sharks, better market there. I personally prefer Monkfish, because i dont need sharks for things i am currently doing. If i do, i still have about 100 tuna potato's left.
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Desert treasure and merchanting and magic
you could train it.