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lagota pro had prossy and firecape but idk if it was just a certain task tbh yes zarfot slays in bandos and firecape probably everytask but for his guide he does also think of the new power slayers...

While I see your point, account sharing does one other thing. If you have 2 or 3 people playing an account it gives that account a huge advantage over other accounts with only 1 owner, as far as the ability to train is concerned. There would be no way for me to compete with an account that has twice as much available time to train. As others have mentioned about the Firecapes, it can also let someone do something for an account that its original owner might not have been able to. Account sharing can give an unfair advantage. Not unfair if everyone can do it. Also it's unfair that a middle school child can play 8 hours a day, while I can only play a few because of studies. Do you see me complaining? e: NO, I don't complain, because it doesn't matter if you're better than me. :thumbup: Haha, good point about it not being unfair if everyone can do it. I was still thinking about it from the point of today's rules, but combining it with no longer being against the rules... yeah... Also, I hope I didn't come across as complaining. I was just trying to put my idea into the debate. I know plenty of people who account share, and I have been asked plenty of times if I could do something for a friend in exchange for them doing something on my account (e.g. a quest traded for some skilling). I don't whine about these friends being unfair, although I have made fun of the occasional one for not getting his own firecape :P I would simply rather have my accomplishments be my accomplishments, and not someone else's, so I personally don't account share. EDIT: I forgot to say it the first time. I liked the first article and thought it was a good topic. I had actually heard of all of the bugs in the second article, but it was still interesting. The mechanics behind the Falador Massacre were explained differently in the article than what I had heard before this. yah i wonder what % of firecapes are legit seeming as alot of maxed players dont have it....your saying every 111 has the attention span to do jad? :S though i got mine legit it was at 2476 overall lol

prossy /firecape is a pretty good setup where you need to pray protection i dont really see a reason to bring bandos on task where u protection pray but the only task i do is............spiritual mages i guess abberant specters too but ima blocking n00b lol...maybe black demons when u have 2 on u... or if u feel like afking a task of dragons but im usually to busy banking bones and killing next. also for max hit i find that i am hitting above my old max in kuradel 650 prossy/sw cape quite often enough that it is worth it to have bandos/firecape max i seen so far is like 686 so im really not a fan of dividing max hit by 2 to get avarage hit maybe i will do 100 hits on dusties and put them in excel to get avarage hit =p but on othe places such as mithril dragons avarage hit is less cuz of more 0s

yah it sucks t go that far in skilsl then have them changed like crazy i say its smart to train slayer but remember its something thats gunna get changed thats why cooking/ or thieving that are fast atm are smarter than doing something not fast.. with efigies its pretty smart for free exp

More realistically, even with good teams, you will in the long run average about 40K-50K xp/hr. Even 30 hours is a lot... it's at least 1-2 weeks work of nolifing. .......3 days of nolifing lol anyway id say ....i wouldnt risk a chaotic...well risk w/o protect item but no risk with protect because it seems kinda dumb lol

i have some expirience with this as well.... 15m-like 18m exp i used prossy top/vskirt for slayer - ok defence good pray bonus also i had a sw cape sure it was pretty cheap on prayer but u gotta understand pray potions are cheaper these days too..and you got hit more and also you dont look as "elite" when you have prossy instead of bandos. then i used prossy/firecape it wasnt too much less prayer pots and +4 was a pretty good increase in max hit for me then i used bandos top/firecape/ver skirt it was a pretty good increase in max hit for me too and i noticed that i still wasnt having that many problems with prayer then i used full bandos /firecape and had some problems with prayer on certain task but still it doesnt take much time to bank lol. and with bandos you often use less pray tanking and using soulsplit instead of protection prayer and turmoil i dont protection pray anything now... and 400k time value thats lower than i thought i imagine that its about the same comparing a firecape to soulwars cape so around 800k-1.2m timevalue for prossy/sw cape versus bandos/firecape in which case i think all slayers that can do frost dragons can do slayer bandos/firecape the only task i wear prossy at is spiritual mages as oops i lie i pray mage on those.

I never account shared ....but yeh alot of people have got firecapes for other people either a person failed too much or they too lazy and they dont htink much of it... but awhile ago on another game my friend lent me his password to change it as he got hacked. I didnt do anything bad on it but it was a bit wierd. back in the day people use to lend party hats without the trade limit.....they builded like "walls of trust " on tipit where lots of people lent them the partyhat and they gave back but it was strongly discouraged it was like...they always have a chance of taking it. but what if you lent a party hat and a friend of 3 years deleted you and removed all contact with u.

combat! lol i only train 3 skills nowdays slayer dungeoneering cooking =D it is the best way to make money non merchanting.....bosses frost dragons even slayer is decent.

Or instanced bosses, sure. Or unique, untradeable drops of which you don't need dozens (like rune defenders but without the semi-decent xp). I strongly agree with this. Good gear should be rare, untradable drops from a hard monster. Makes it a lot harder to get. like a harder version of the fightcaves? ;o or maybe start with jad and increasingly get harder ;o many maxed players still dont have firecapes lol

What's the point of good gear if its just going to sit in your bank at the times when it might make a difference? Because boss hunting isn't the only thing to do in Runescape? yah theirs slayer, other things too

usually in a long clue i think "mg i better get something good for this" and then i get crap but the clues i get something good in.....are usually decently quick

I agree about the offensive stats but i dont agree about the defensive stats i guess im comparing something like dhide top verse karils top at bandos but still at armadyl i think would you rather get hit 200 by armadyl or 0 since its 200 or 0 blocking some of that damage with +15 magic defence is smart and probably multiple times a trip he will roll to not hit through 185 but hit through 170

lol i agree i crammed farming 99 into 2 weeks and spent over 60m he should do herbs and shoulda done herbs during the nonbuyables lol 5 herb runs a day *300k a herb run = 1.5m a day :) not that i do any of this stuff x[) but from expirience if you dont merch or hardcore make money via combat the buyables arent a walk in the park and even if you do this kinda money takes time...and 2 years still alot for farming especcially since he has alot of the nonbuyables and all the other skills to do.... not that i do this stuff i just think that altho buyables are fast he may be undeestimatinghow long it will take to get out of his cash problems lol

yah and he has alot of nonbuyables pretty high too... using a combat moneymaking method is good to make money too but think about it 3m an hr where you have to accually play to get to make 1billion you will need 333 hours which is a month of 11hrs a day :o and 1b at a 25 gp/exp skill is like.....40m exp considering like 400k an hr for the skill thats 100 more hrs training the skill so 433 hrs 40,000,000/433 hours would be 92k/hr but what if you got 1b and then did 3 flips a day making 1% profit on each = 30m extra a day so 30*30=900m a month and maybe 5hrs of 60k/hr fishing a day 5*30=150 hrs of fishin * 60k = 9m fishing exp for your time In zarfots merch guide less than 400M was considered low. so yes if you want to merch you have to make a ton of cash first Even if the numbers are off it shows its anything but an exp waste to merch =p I dont merch as i dont have the cash but if i was going to get off rs a bit i would farm and flip on ge for extra cash.

That stuff for an elite? sounds fishy, ironic that you would have lost them. And realistically, i wholeheartedly agree- my networth is substantially more than max money but while thinking about going on my first newschool DK trip(no 2,5 brid or whatever else in the old days) and really wanting to take my rapier, i'd arrive at a bit of a wall- sure, i have no problem risking 10-30m gear, but when you consider the rapier- it's completely off limits, so it really has to dominate the 3 most valuable item's that i take there. And even if you consider the possible death, risking 30m or so, it'd take around 10 hours to make the same money back, which would considerably cut down on your efficiency, and is another reason frost dragons seem more worthwhile as an all-around moneymaker- 90% of the profit guaranteed, no real risk of death. i agree i was at abbies someone said they lost a chaotic staff crossbow and long at dks....6.3m exp in dungeoneering! wtfff however 2m exp in dungeoneering is like 20 hours of dungeoneering with a pro perm team will be 10 hrs of dungeoneering with a pro perm team after the update.. with an avarage team double those numbers.. and if your going for 120 getting rewards and then saving tokens the value of a chaotic item may even be worth 200k dungeoneering exp to you which may be 1 hr of time with a pro team after the update. or 3million however if your 80 dungeoneering and dont have a perm team its going to be at least 35 hrs of time to get it back thierfore at 3m an hr a chaotic weapon would be worth 105million but yesterday i was playing with item kept on death and often times its something stupid like barrows gloves protects over something like karils top =p doesnt matter if u wear glory instead of fury its only the barrows gloves that ud keep so better to wear the fury. same with firecape some people would go crazy if they lost thier firecape other people have a ton of firecapes.....im in the middle of that..lol its all about your different values this only applies to monsterhunting tho with gravestones you can get back easily to other places... LOVE FROST DRAGONS you dont have to worry about drystreaks, you dont have to worry about dieing, can do fine with just some extremes and cannonballs. but anyway thigns have different values to different people.

Life. lol true that! unfortunately not everyone has the time to dedicate their time to lvling, ppl have lifes ppl to meet/work/school/social gathers etc. alot more important things out there then on rs and thats life mate. it took me long time to get maxed combat too and i work i got my gf to care for, rents to pay/food to pay etc time isnt alot tbh lol Actually, its more efficiency then life. Most RS players either are damn lazy, or damn inefficient. AGREED get 80 dungeoneering for rapier max melee / get a decent summon lvl doing slayer/ some range exp with cannon use slayer money gradually on prayer camp frost dragons for the rest of prayer/range/herblore. maybe tds on the side this should take like 7 months for the casual player....like 3 months for the n0lyfer but its easyto get distracted doing this but you'll prob get distracted doing the amount of kills you need to avarage a good gp an hr at godwars....or killing the amount of tds you need for claws...

ya just a lil...so i dont get 5k exp when i assist a 97 AND NOOBS GET 97 THIEVING ITS EASY construction prob the most begged for :P i usually assist rc/con every other day or so...

or release a new skill lol =p

err. You're cool? who was that even directed to, I havent been to DK's in 2 weeks or so. Also, crashing for fun is kind of... depressing. I don't understand taking pleasure in someone else's annoyance. yah i think the point of this thread was crashing outa necessity not annoyance but it sucks so many do for fun....

anyone else thinkg the food drops of certain things where nerfed? i didd a dg with 4 randomers yesterday and was hardly getting any food.. oh and imo if u solo a monster you shuld be the one getting the food...hate when i domost of the monster and then get all food looted! in a good team the 4 people would ggs to the spot immidiately tho.

yeh i dont think hed be 100m+ either zarfot was gunna go for 100m rc right after he maxed and quit =P 10hr a day for a year on the same skill = :-( and its probably same story for fishing agility as well..

the longis much better at bandos because of the accuracy

how do you time with a chaotic lonG? =p

CR is never more accurate than CLS in any situation, none the less, the rapier is as accurate or very close in accuracy in a number of situations. and in places like abby demons and darkbeast where they have close accuaracy rapier is better----i see so many 138s in full bandos overloads and cls at darkbeast or abby and i kill way faster than them....

i have both rapier and long i might get the kite cuz it looks cool no crossbow :) im going to dg with my friend whos gunna go for 115 dungeoneering when update comes :)