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If I try and fail to crash someone, (Which is incredibly rare) or if they don't hop, and as a result slow me down by messing up lures/spawns etc, I'll hop. Its not a matter of who has more balls, its about getting more kills, personally. yah true .getting the kills is what counts to me

But people who want to have both are screwed. :razz: I hope with the new floors added, it will become more rational to clear a large dungeon than to rush it. honestly making armor and clearing dungeons was the first way played and pretty fun but now i only do rushes i hate people that ladida and dont care how long the dungeon is taking but i hate peopel that complain about something taking just a little longer.... in 117 often someone will join and go 45 mins omg so long...you joined a random team in 117 ur lucky its less than 1hr... in a dungeon clan however thats kinda long i dont like when thiers 133 shades or dragons in rooms we run through often tho... but in an almost dead end place they should be left alone if thier arent guards its kinda smart to antinpc cap for food instead of fishing...but usually thier is a guard room i barely ever alc and fish more often but in a good team i always have too much food lol

worth it for bandos and armadyl if dont have spirit shields? chaotic crossbow way better at arma or just blah?

i kinda agree but i think its kinda mean if u say ur gunna tele affter that overload runs out and they crash you anyway --- i didnt have claws they did big difference.but now i have :)) and idk its not just 138s that crash 110s anymore its 138s crashing 137s and other 138s a 138 with a whip can be crashed by a chaotic long 138 at bandos ect =p

so with the effigies it could make sence to intentionally not raise a skill all the way to 200m exp firemaking and cooking maybe leave them 10-20m off 200m instead of get both thief - construction farming - fishing most dont do these both so prob dont gotta worry yet mining smithing - these are done together maybe not wise to go too far ahead too soon b4 alot of slay exp runecraft summoning --the end lamp for an effigy shuld be used on rc and summoning is gained on the way to combat or eventually camping fiends or bursting..but rc is most timeconsuming so why train it to 200m first anyway herb hunter hunt can be done with agility and herb u save most money on by using the lamp on woodcut fletch anotehr easy combination that avoid using efficies on 200m fletch is ok but wait on woodcutting. agility crafting --- well most top players dont have agility close either and agility is by far the slower skill

i just thought about this....sometimes you need to crash for more efficient spawns especcially if using overloads because they dont last 5 mins in combat but they last 5 mins anyway so while waiting for spawns ur wasting the overload dose... so i decideed to do kbd since they have more clues =p also for bandos a low ping world is necessary not just any world....to prevent lag/dc...

yah but niehter hammy or telmo is accualy in dge lol

fish/cook is ok if you are basically cleaned in food but its not good if you spend the whole map fishing and none of it helping............. makingarmor/smithing = big no no..... but i dont yell at people who do it i just roll my eyes lol but if they ask me to make them armor = ignorelist and not dg with them again lol farming - they should do this when a pot is needed or in preperation for a pot door farm patch at guard door and drop herbs at base. and pick up any herbs they drop at base but dont wait for it to grow. tree cutting - good log for thing thieving chest - noooooooo i want the money but seriously its much better to thieve money then go fishing lol range/mage armor - yawn rcing - gatestones groupstones a few people with cures or runes to kill primal warriors helps.

thats why most are against all 120s but with certain things jagex have put out such as effigies and ect it is possible to get alot of rc exp just doing combat and aso get a bunch of exp in mining/agility skills that would normally make people nuts and with the other skills thier is merchanting monsterhunting and frost dragons..... but yeh certain things like skiller 703 was number 1 dg from lvl 70 to lvl 104 then mysteriously quit he was still playing but doing something different... i guess skills like runecrafting and agility will be the real test...in which case will they get 200m or realize they hit a wall with the game. its easy to do a skill 13m exp and 13-20m exp is same as 92-99 but after that....how many times are u gunna get 92-99 in the same skill before you go nuts

actualy telmo does use w117, with much sucess he has the mentality that if he can key run in 25 mins by himself, then all he needs is 4 lvl 135+s to brainlessly kill anything they see and before you know it theyve reached the boss in about 23 mins, then pile it ive done a few dungs with him and hes quite genious, the only drawback of his plans are ragequitters, but he hardly ever bothers looting food and is always the first in a room so everyone on his team is generaly happy with the food and the speed i do think that the quaility of 117 teams will impove after this update, because anybody can get 69 dung and do floors with you, yet still have very little dung knowledge lots of people dont care about dung itsself they just want 80 for chaotic many are just wanting 85 then stopping for a while but once the occult floors come, if you say "f45 large" most players with 90 dung have a great idea of what they are doing, and this will filter out the idiots allowing only the smarter people to play with you now i understand this will reduce the field to choose from but i have no problem getting 5 guys in under a minute, and after this update it will be even more full of a world to choose from (id reccomend finding a team who wants to do all occult floors 36-47 and then hopping to a less laggy world) alot of people that smartley reached 99 in the first few months will also shoot for higher maybe 105-120 even just using occult or at least come back to dungeoneering nolifing for a week or 2... lol dungeoneering clans should be more active as well as more people will fel they are wasting less expirience with exp rates meant for lvl 93 compared to 69 no excuses w53 dg :P but yeh doing floor 42-47 will weed out alot of the noobs on the lower floors but most will prob do 30-47 large for less resetting too

yeh with effigies and clue scrolls itseems like combat is the only thing that gets u ahead in this gmae lol and for bosses they have higher droprates of effigies its more effiecient to camp tds and use effiges on rc than grahak and even zmi >.> i guess its a good point when ur doing rocktail ur not really fishing but afking or w/e but u can kinda afk slayer monsters and they give good gp/hr i think bosshunting especcially solo is pretty fair in the money it gives though as you have to get the money for decent gear and have to pay attention whole time , deal with other players......and not gaining exp.. but it sucks that cant make any good money skilling sure u can say oh i make 1b getting 200m fish on rocktail oh i make xb getting 200m rc exp off deaths but if you monsterhunted in that time ud have way more so basicly its bosshunt for money and then power through skills

no excuses cuz i know him lol they can do 80-120k AN HR ON THE LARGE FLOORS and he does his c1s fast too =p

runecrafting - its slow exp only goes to rc agility - its slow mining - its slow dungeoneering with a bad team - makes you wanna kill someone summoning- killing fiends aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah herblore - lots of time needed to moneymake farm- have to wait sooo long a whole week at lvl 98 cant take it!!! crafting/construction - n00b jagex whyd u release dungeoneering when i only had 80 more hours of sc to play! geez noobs those were the hardest for me lol

whats the best elite clue dropper and should i unblock deserts and not block jungle or just keep slaying my way lol

After not doing clues in like 3 years i dropped my lvl 3 clue and decided to get more and decided they not half bad! now looking for elite ones :) with the new mask what income do you think clues will stop being worth doing at?

most 138s wanna left click everything they shuld make it that way >.>

frosties arent a boss@@@ they just make lots of gp/hr and they arent that crowded but after the dungeoneering update they probably will be more crowded but most people that have the willingness to camp frosties are so high lvled anyway tds are harder than gwd i agree lol i support an instanced boss like a tormented demon.

Yea, this is unrelated, but I don't get why TIFers like you have empty RS names/avvys/sigs. Anyways, so congrats. You still play. However, your thought processes are still of one who's not played since June 20th 2004. While it usually is true that you may not need specific knowledge when discussing fundamental principles, I think this is one of those exceptions, if only because the Runescape world tends to not be bound by the same laws of logic as our world. Unrelated note: This guy came into my dk world while I was maging, he had divine, yak, fire surge, epic gear in general. He could have easily crashed me, so I said "gtfo" he said "k" and logged. L. I was ready to leave actually, I didn't think he'd actually hop. first day of alkarid imps b4 they nerfed it it was "hop plz" and most people hopped but that was hunter. When slayiing in pro worlds people usually hop if too many people thier but when slaying on normal worlds they dont thing about bandos is you cant just hop if your in the bossroom so if your a noob that gets crashed you gotta go get killcount and try again =p

pvp worlds arent option as you cant use overloads on grandor how would u guys feel if at 95 dgneering u could have 1 instanced td and at 110 you no longer need killcount to get into the godwars dungeon bosses and get them instanced.

bandos has always been crashcity if you see a 110 or 120 they wont last long wait til they finish but when everyone has yaks overloads and will last 10+ kills thier its not efficient to wait not efficient for equal abilities to crash eachother either.. maybe just dont do bandos at peeak times? armadyl - easy to find world to solo. tds, lots of worlds but no as mny full worlds.

agreed! you right click it and its likE "oh a whip..." but b4 it was like ! dang thats a whip! cool dplatelegs are cool staffs of lights are coool i think how much something stands out on ground as well as the monetary value matters when i see shield left half or dmed i think "FML" as it coulda been rarer

i want 120 slayer too!!@@@ anyway cant wait for occult floors :)

maxed forums were like 40% female 60% male =p im female :)

now to think of a good lvl to get with this batch and i like dungeon being released in different parts now people will train at lvl 93 speed and thier will be more people to do 94+ floors with when they come out :P

i use steel titan for alot of multi task but most of the time i use yak or n0thing