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I actually like the efficiency. Its always appealed to me getting the most XP/Money in the least time/effort. yeh some kid maxed at 155 days for 2376 :o

Nope, I don't judge people on first sight and that's why I ask questions instead of immediately calling people no-lifers. I'm still surprised that you didn't just assume I was insinuating you were a no-lifer and flamed me, it's hard to get these kinds of discussions right, so thanks for taking the time to share your point of view on it. If what you say is true, it really surprises me how you can work on your life while playing 18 hours a day - I assume you may be planning to do some job related to computer science and learn languages such as C++ on your computer while you do easy skills such as Cooking or Fishing? It seems to me as the only thing that could work out well, but then again my knowledge on that matter isn't wide enough. You seem to dedicate yourself to Runescape on a purpose of surpassing yourself, somehow, to test your capabilities as you say. But what are you learning from hardcore skilling, exactly? Becoming more patient, more endured with monotonous tasks? I don't quite see which of your capabilities you're putting to test, to my eyes all it takes is a lot of time in your hands and some coffee to stay wake up. not quitting an impossible goal !

Oh dear god... You know, read what you write out loud for a sec, maybe you'd understand how ridiculous it would sound. But really, if you feel that CLS kills things twice as fast as rapier(which would likely mean 70% accuracy boost for cls vs. rapier) then really, who are we to tell you that you are wrong. As long as you have your sword and are happy with it, there is no problem- after all, all of us who have the rapier are profiting from your mistakes. By the way, i use a primal rapier in dungeoneering, and it is 100% the best weapon for melee dps on low defense or stab weak monsters. And really, comparing primal rapier(in dungeoneering) to CLS(in real runescape) to try to prove a point just shows how clueless you really are. Anyone with half a brain can see trough your ''why the hell did i get this piece of **** instead of rapier'' remorse. Gud on ya. Oh, and really, rapier hits at about the same speed as darts/knives, There is no noticeable difference if you have your eyes shut :thumbsup: yoooo i used a prom 2h in dungeoneerign theierfore we shalll all use d2h for slayer irl cuz prom 2h pwns in dgneering!@@####

i like what drumgun says tbh most high lvls that play alot are working on thier future not really burning their life away. 19hr a day is crazy nuts and when it comes to fishing/rc the more hrs would probably win.... w/o merching thiers still alot of ways to make money and they are always making more ways to make money with new bosses or certain updates such as frost dragon as well as more efficient ways to do old bosses such as overloads now make it possible to do . i guess the top players that did dungeoneering pre f47 and us doing dgneerign pre f60 are kinda being inefficient @ squisher yah i think thats why alot of people root for zarfot as he plays really efficiently made all his cash flipping and i think has less than 500 days played (ima almost be the same pretty soon sht :() other top players have 600+ days played and worse stats also he values all skills equally i think while drumgun does things his way and prob wont value all things equally.

they should require high skill as skills are getting easier maybe 75 magic 2 years ago when wgs came out was considered high but now thiers at least 750 people with access to the max forums tbh i dont think 120 dg shuld really play a part i this o.o that is the endgame skill so tbh someone that has reached all 99s has reached the end game and dg is only way to lvl yeh the quest cape does make people feel entitled to wanna do all quest i havent done love story or the 2 void quest but i did get a quest cape once and alot of people would feel upset if they came out with uberhigh requirements at this tim like 90+ farm or 90+ construction but they shuld step up the requirments gradually like they said. next quest requires 69 agil then the next 74 agil then the next 78 agil and then 82 agil people will have the skil at the lvl from the other quest it wont sem so daunting yeh i know how it feels to have content that you cannot access i didnt have a firecape for icestryke when they were released. 2300 total is rank 6k and that is skill avarage of 92 so thats still a small population they can make quest that even a 138 has trouble with as thier are a ton of 138s! so yes they should but it has to be gradual week to week quest cape will definately become an uber cape if they forget to make a max cape ;p

ow just thought about that today longest floor ever found boss around 20 mins mono in beggining... but then we got monsterlimit and all gd doors man idk what to do with occult anymore..... i think it might be better to accually kill like 5-6 rooms then start rushing lol the food supply is so bleak in occult and also the monsterlimits happen way faster on abandoned monsterlimits usually happened a few rooms b4 boss now they can happen like in mid dungeon....log in and out is annoying stuff goes on floors and then monsters atttack ur hoodless foodless self.. mod might also matter a big more on occult tho 96k exp for floor 43 with people that killed alot versus getting the same for a 46 rush :P so maybe i can lead a team to kill the first 5 rooms for food and antinpccap b4 getting keying

a linage player w/ 20k hrs suied company lol lots of maxed players have 833+ days tho

I hate people like you. I just wanted to say that. And I hate people who don't rush =/ It's a waste of time that I can avoid by quitting Then stop joining groups who aren't advertising rushes? Also, don't be surprised if you find yourself on some kind of "Do not dung with" list. if they arent doing a rush then that do not dungeon with list won't matter and tbh dge has lots of high rankers from w53 dg on thier do not dg with list =p they still get lvlls anyway a good high lvl player can make a dungeon a rush when its not

technically u lose out on rewards when you spend tokens on exp so if u lose your weapon you do lose 200k potential dg exp I would support dgneer rewards being unlocked for 20-30m if you lost them prob more but the current system you have to think of your setup :P you keep your lvl and standing on highscores i wouldnt mind reduced price for gettting em back but spending time in dgs again is fair since it goes to 120...

zarfots only one thats taken a jump in dungeoneering lvl did 2 dungeons with him pretty cool :) also like a week or less til the first 120 and highscores being based off exp! ;o

1-82 - fun lol i barely reember and i got my rapier learning the skill and with friends whole time. then i took a break for other skills and got my last 2 99s besides dging 82-89 - these lvls were ok still had my good friend playing it and enjoyed it but felt like it was getting harder to lvl 89-90- pure hell complete randomers my friend got lvl 99 :S 90-97 found a semi perm team and dungeoned with them alot and even talked on vent very fun :) 97-99 ughhhhhhhh lol i just wanted 99 and used tokens for the lvl 769k of em..... 99-101 just did 1-3 dgs with my friend + randomers every nite 101-102 :) occult floors are fun and new been doing some 3:3 larges with my best rs friends. on abandoned and doing occults 5;5 large.... when i join a w53 or a dge team without my usually dg friend i sometimes get bored as i feel like im just killing stuff dont really have a part in the communication and stuff but its good cuz the floors are generally fast... sometimes people are bossy or annoying in 117 its pretty fast to fin a team for lower than 39 and hard for 39+ but eh they usually dont work out as well they require more leadership /babysitting more likely to have a ragequitter on your team. but sometimes the dungeoneering clan dont have the floor your doing or harder to find a team and prob in 2 weeks it will be way harder to find teams in those worlds.... anyway i like doing 30 min floors but im also ok with relaxed 40-55 min floors a horror abandoned team would be 70mins+ for occult i think 40 mins or 50-70 mins .. i guess a horror occult team would be like 1hr 40mins or more once everyone learns the new bosses and puzzles the floors will go waaaaaaaaaaay smoother lately ive been dungeoneing for eagle eye shield and chaotic crossbow i barely notice the exp piling on.... I LIKE RUSHING I DONT LIKE RUSHING AT THE COST OF MY OWN SURVIVAL so if im fishing and cooking for 5 secs dont complain tbh

kinda happy they didnt make to many expensive rewards lol.....because i want eagle eye shield and spent 900k tokens on exp but i hope 48-60 they pump out the rewards ;) i will get eagle eye then only spend tokens on charges for rapier long and shield lol so on 48-60 ill be ready ;o

That was aimed at a comment of morningrise, and don't forget there are 2 rounds... That is what I'm trying to say people, with the current situation, changing the re-buy cost would just be unfair compared with the tradable items. If you want your cls back faster, there should be things like dungeons that give more tokens but less xp, only accesible after lvl 80 or so. id accually go for that 90% tokens 10% exp lol for a 55k exp dg it would be 5.5k tokens but if u swich it 5.5k exp and 55k tokens but it wouldnt work because tokens can be spent on exp :S =p but with the update 200k tokens wont be as hard for a higher lvl dungeoneer especcially for 120

is range prayer or curses betterfor armadyl?

td wont get as busy cuz they need a tonnn of quest =P and they are tedious to solo....bandos however u just tank and kill

And that was on a LS world? Wow, he had some balls to crash a trio (I'm assuming you were each using a different combat style with extremes and maxed gear?). I know you said the RNG favored him, but was there anything else he was doing could've contributed? Was he using a steel titan and overloads? Td crashing is all about anticipating the TD's prayer switches. as long as you can hit above 300 often you can crash pretty well It was two range/melee hybs (me and another guy) and a dedicated mage. The guy who crashed was using a pony and extremes + turm. He was obviously quite experienced at TDs, as his switches were much better than ours, which was probably the reason why he won on several kills. Kudos for him for being more skilled than we were, but crashing a trio when they weren't bothering your spot at all is still a [bleep] move. That's pretty crazy. Yeah, crashing a LS world is pretty unnecessary, especially at TDs. I'm absolutely positive that someone is going to jump on this and say "oh look the high levels who love crashing are complaining about being crashed! HYPOCRITES!" When crashing TDs or DKs (and even Bandos if you tele out while tanking Graar), you accept the possibility that the person you're crashing will attempt to get you killed. This is why crashing Bandos is so much more common than anywhere else. Also, TDs are the most pointless boss to crash. There's very little to gain and a whole lot to lose by crashing. agreed

name changing was a hard thing to decide how they would make it so people do what they do how they make it not abused seperating the user from the display name dealing with offensive name i think they want it all balanced have to have at least some risk in this game but i'd like to be able to get cls for a cheaper price if i lose in cb :P

For a solo anywhere I am generally inclined to take a little less then my best gear. For example maybe at a Solo Bandos or Zammy taking a Soul Wars cape instead of my Fire cape. But if I am duoing+ then I'll go all out, although I would say that usually no matter where I go I take the best gear possible, I just don't like to risk those untradable hard to obtain items. Of course thats all going to change once I get my CLS :P Great point you've raised though. Honestly, for most bosses, I'd RATHER have the prayer bonus of Nomads cape then then a fire cape.... Way I see it, when I get a chaotic weapon (Not anytime soon!) I'm making sure it's something I KEEP when I die. (Although considering the only boss I really do is TD's, and you can get back there fast enough if you have a spare lantern...) Another thing; from my experience, the difference between max, expensive gear, and welfare gear often isn't that much.... depends really what the welfare is and if its worth it lol....like id much rather risk a karils top than wear black dhide and id much rather wear a fury for the extra defence then a glory but in some places defender verse dfs doesnt matter much .....id wear a ring of life over a bersekr for soloing =S at armadyl full karils versus full armadyl is a big difference and you cant bring dhides to armadyl either.. At tormented demons you get hit once then pray protect =p so gear doesnt have much an effect no chaotic weapon is protected with protect item for sure for me and when i get an eagle eye shield ill make sure thats protected to

well at bandos i u came across a 110 u'd be pretty lucky everyone thier 130+ for armadyl you need better gear and more time in the bossroom :P but yeh it is probably better money than bandos in the longrun but thiers a reason you cant find a world for bandos while armadyl is empty usually its because people enjoy getting kills fast and kllcount fast and bandos is easier to solo in general especcially with chaotic weapons. for tds they are getting more crowded but usually time to find an open world - i find them tedius myself lol and probably other people too just want quick fun at bandos. but the thing is at tds and arma its less efficient to crash somebody at tds they swich prayer every 310 dmg anyway at armadyl ur most likely competing with someone that has 99 range too lol =p but at bandos its liek pure who does most damage also people dont do frost dragons as much because a visage is the only thing....that u can get its more like a better version of rcing all guarnateed no special drops.

i dont refresh for updates lol and tbh its way earlier today then they usually announce it but im really looking forward to this update and i know that jagex usually release updates around 10-12pm my time and b4 i had done all the quest the first time i didnt really care about updates...but now that im all 99s and dungeoneering goes to 120 and this increases the expirience rates its a pretty important update! but yeh i dont want it to be totally gliched up =P i think maybe they shulda made a post that said "we have planned this update for late in the week as it is a huge chunk of code" so we wouldnt be like monday....tuesday......wenesday....and maybe expect it late if its delayed to next week id be really mad for them telling us it was this week in all post... but it is the year of delays...

You know what is even more frustrating, not only do they hype things up huge, and constantly fail to deliver, they also announce at the ABSOLUTE latest hour that it won't be ready, after I have waited for it the 3rd day in a row. It isn't as if they encountered some new problem 20 minutes ago that disallowed them from releasing this update. They knew just as well earlier today that it wouldn't be released. How about they put a [bleep]ing twitter hint earlier than after the usual time in the morning when updates are released? This is tiresome and disappointing. Jagex can go [bleep] themselves. I am ok with them taking the time to straighten things out occasionally but don't make us wait, be honest. All of this has to do with their inexcusable business model where they work updates AFTER they announce then. These updates should already be ready and the only thing they should be doing is last minute testing. Not [bleep]ing making up half the update the week before it is supposed to be release. So yeah, to all those apologists, it IS their fault for having a [cabbage] business model. Actually they announced it quite early today. yah usually they announce it after the usual update time has past... grr!@@@@##### what the hell am i supposed to do in rs! :P and nooooooo patience....lol if they released it on monday and we werent so good with it it would be ok we'd be like yay new content... but if it comes out tommorow....then we will be like "finally" and if disappointed ////rage///// i mean tbh this is a really really important update and alot of people planned to be on at the same time for a day of dungeoneering...... i suppose its ok as long as its not next week lol...

one of my friends used to let his bro on his account his bro had his own account but they skill on thier own account but the brother only went to pk and have fun dont see a problem with that kinda accountsharing.... only account sharing i really think is nub is.... a family that shares accounts to be upranked in highscores like if an account could be logged in 24 hrs a day skilling by a family member thats bad and ruins the achievements for others really...

but we soooo bored mainly dg is a high lvl skill and i got 99 on june 25th so the new floors were highly anticipated... so if she says "pfft it wasnt even planned for today" thats kinda annoying oh well hopefully its awesome!

banking is easy eitherway lol but i bank at blue dragons too

i saw him bandos/firecape but it was in kuradels dg mostly tankable task thier on cannonbale task prossy would be understandable.