I've had every dragon weapon in the game at one point or another, except the woodcutting axe. As for the d scim vs. d long debate, the speed difference is enough to make the scim a better choice. Or if you really prefer power, you can go with the baxe. the baxe is actually stronger than a whip (82 str bonus for whip, 85 for baxe) but less accurate and considerably slower. No matter what you get, you WILL get a dds. The spec is the second best koing tool in the game. (The best being a granite maul, but you have only 1 ko per spec bar with that.) Personally, I use a d scim for str training, whip for attack training, and dds/d mace in fights for koing. Whatever you choose, the weapons are all superior to rune, and will serve you well.