Viktorkrum77

Warrior, see, I'm going to be honest here and I'm not trying to sound bigoted, but, you're looking at the face value of religion. Science and religion can fit together, I don't believe any religious text should be set in stone, why couldn't God be at the seat of the universe and still control Evolution, why can't God be nature. After all, they both control the universe. Essentially we believe in the same thing, to me God=Nature, one is just a deity who is more conscious to each person and the other is unconscious to each person, mentally. Two different outlooks, but also very similar at the same time.

Yep, I believe everyone should open up to learn about other religions. There are some people who feel religion shadows the word and covers it and is the root of all evil, true this may be to an extent, but so much can be learned about yourself from religion. Even if you dismiss the theory of God and go for science (IMO science and religion coexist, even Evolution coexists but I won't bother getting into that now) you can still learn morals and philosophies that help make you a better person. One thing that's always made me mad is how uneducated politicians are about, say Islam for example. The religion is not an extreme religion, a few just ruin it for the rest. The people are just like us, they are just more deeper into their religion. Like in Europe, I think it should be REQUIRED in the US that any politician have theology classes before entering office.

Somewhere in the Qur'an it says the sun sinks into a pond at the end of each day, can't remember where though, I'll have to find it when I read the Qur'an. But first I'm finishing Hinduism.

I don't have a worst day, I learn from my mistakes and then leave my past behind only as a memory. I agree with LP, it sounds clicḫ̩̉̉ but life is too short to live depressed, the average person lives less then 36,500 days.

You did say that your belief is a sort of mixture of many religions, did you not? I guess what I'm about to say applies to Bible-believing Christians only, but here goes... In 2 Corinthians (I think it's in that book) it says that those who practice homosexuality will not inherit the kingdom of God. And, since the Bible says that ALL scripture is God-breathed, God says that it is wrong. (I hope this post doesn't get me more enemies. That's what usually seems to happen when I post in the Off-Topic board...) That goes along with my broad generalization/metaphorical view of the Bible IMHO. Remember, the Bible was written by man, it was only influenced by God and Jesus.

:D I wanted to add to my original post by saying, the one who fails the test to conform has surpassed societies restrictions, has learned the true meaning of love (I hope that doesn't sound too hippy-like :P), and lives above the influence of society. To live for yourself with God/Brahman/Allah/etc. And in some cases Jesus/Mohammad, etc. And to learn to be able to accept yourself for who you are without society making the decisions for you, as you mentioned.

Actually it's quite confusing. See, I see homosexuality as a test not of whether or not you can pass it and become straight, but whether you can see and understand life, love, and the self. Essentially, the way to pass this test is to fail and not conform, I think God is testing your (and societies) understanding of life, love, and the self. It's not His law, he never expressed opinion either way, what is made is merely assumptions.

I think that's just the church taking it for "face value". I doubt God nor Jesus have any opinion on it, this is why you have to dig deeper than the face value of the Bible, a lot of it is rubbish, and I include the majority of the Old Testament in that, but that isn't the point, the point is morals and the self, and being one with God, and FAITH, etc. This is how I fuse all the religions into one, when they're broken down, they all have basic core values. And the Church can justify homosexuality. I mean, who's to say God didn't make it as a test? And who's to say God supports people passing this test?

We have a pro bodybuilder here, and besides that, I know your antics, you won't stick to it.

I don't believe God made religion to be concrete. There are things like homosexuality and sexual urges which I consider tests, and if you fail these tests I don't think God will be mad at all. I often wonder if God believes, "I'd rather see someone fail and understand life, then succeed without understanding life" (made-up quote). So I believe God's intent isn't the interpretation by man, I believe religion is metaphorical and broad. You have to push away the petty interpretations by man to uncover the true word of God hidden in the text. IMHO.

Oh yeah, I know it all. :P

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Saudi Arabia and Yemen- (These two in particular out of many) They kill homosexuals. Guyana- Prison for life for being homosexual. Ukraine- Um, I could go on and on and on.

Now I really want to see a Swedish Bible, I mean, how cool would that be. :D :P :)

My perfect day would be waking up in my room on an atoll of the FS of Micronesia with a balcony overlooking the jungle and the cost in the near distance with the white sand and the blazing sun and the palms sawing from the slight wind and the birds chirping below.

Freewebs worked wonders, thanks a lot! :D

Edit: Woha, easy on the giving out of that kind of advice. ~Assassin Even if it was someone who has a problem which is treatable? On second thought, I take that back. Was a spur of the moment post, wasn't thinking. :oops:

Edit: Woha, easy on the giving out of that kind of advice. Feel free to edit in a more appropriate comment or whatever. ~Assassin

Of course I think like that, I've pondered many of a night over how insignificant life is, and then I read a scripture from any of a numerous amount of religions the next day. I know my life is meaningless and I am Atheist, but I'm not one to give up on life. I have but one chance, one life and in that I can do whatever I want, after that (to me) it's darkness. So I jump off that path and onto my own path, accomplish my goals, and die happy. I will not be complete if I do not die content in my heart that I have lived my short life as I wanted to. Giving up on life is giving in to life. It's weakness and weakness of the mind.

As Assassin said, you live a pretty damn good life in the United Kingdom, 70% of the world is under you.

Just go become a child soldier for the Ugandan Rebels. Since you 100% follow the same process minus drugs.

That's just it, that's the kind of attitude that puts you in the original posters place. I guess this can be ended by, whatever floats your boat I guess.

Accept religion, it's there and it's not going away anytime soon. To each their own, let science prosper as well, and then just leave the rest to the individual person. Just my two cents anyway. I'm in a philosophical mood. :boohoo:

Not true, physical restrictions and advantages may play key roles in some types of fame (say for example wealth and Paris Hilton) but the only true thing stopping you from achieving something great is yourself. Yea, so it's easier for other people than you, but get over it, life's not fair, you have to fight for what you want. Persistence is key. You=said person.

Bill Gates, Lincoln, Mandella, have you heard of these people? Yes, because they did something. Sitting back and not doing anything isn't going to make you remembered, isn't going to make you have an impact on the world and others lives, it only makes you another dust particle under the couch, So get off your lazy [wagon] and make a difference in the world for yourself and for others, and so you won't get swept up by the vacuum and instead will become a dust bunny.