Veltia Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Now, I'm 15 years old, I might have the wrong idea of the Stockmarket so please correct me if I'm wrong! The Stockmarket of RuneScape So, what's a Stockmarket? A stockmarket is a place where people are buying and selling percentages of a firm. The more points of a firm/company you own, the more owner of a company you are. But how will this fit into RuneScape? Well, fitting it will be quiet a big work for Jagex but then it would also give the players another way of earning their daily. First 5 buildings should be added to the game each of them a stockmarket building. Each of these buildings can hold a limited amount of Companies registred (this is too avoid flooding of companies). And each building will be accesable in: Grandtree Keldrahim (phrasebook needed :oops: ) Ardougen Falador Varrock Each city able to hold a limited amount of companies, around 50-100 each. Now, should this be accesable to everyone? -No! Members only! And after having done a small quest! The Quest: "Economy!" Skills: 1000 overall level or higher Items: 250.000 gp Part one Starting point. Out side any Stockmarket in anytown You walks up to the door of the Stockmarket and a guard who stands permanently stops you! Guard: "You Can't Enter!" 2 replys: *"Okay... sorry, I didn't know!" This results in that the quest is not started. *"Why not?" Guard: "Formal dressing required and you are not wearing that!" *3 replys: *"Where can i get that?" Guard: "By a cloth shop! There is one somewhere in this town!" You go the the "*" *"Okay I'ill get that!" You will go to part 2 *"Why is that required?" Guard: "It's THE STOCKMARKET OF RUNESCAPE" Guard: "You know what a Stockmarket is?" 2 replys: *"Yes" This results in you return to the "*" *"No" Guard: "It's... ehm... I don't really know, some guy in there can explain it to you!" You: "Does that mean i can enter?" Guard: "No, you need the formal dressing!" This results in you return to the "*" Part two Starting point: Cloth Shop Items needed: 100.000gp Speak to the shop owner *You: "Hello I need a formal dress!" Shop owner: "Oh, we can sew one but it costs alot!" You: "How much?" Shop owner: "Well, we need to sew one fitting specially for you so it is expensive..." You: "HOW MUCH!?" Shop owner: "50.000gp!" You: "---" You: "You got to be kidding me!" Shop owner: "Well it's required for entering the Stockmarket and other buisness!" Shop owner: "You want to get one or not?" 2 replys: *"NO!" Resulting you in leaving the store and returning to the "*" *"Yes..." Shop owner: "Great, please hand us the money or we won't sew!" 2 replys: *"I don't have to money!" Shop owner: "Oh dear, you better get it then!" Resulting you in leaving the store and returning to the "*" *"Okay, here you go!" Reward: Formal dress! The formal dress looks just like the suits that Miles, Niles and Giles are wearing and looks the same on both Males and Females. The stats for it is the same as the frog token cloth without mask. Examining says: "I feel really important in this!" Part three Starting point: Inside Stockmarket Items needed: Formal dress You enter the Stockmarket. Stockmarket assistant: "Hello to the Stockmarket of RuneScape's department in *City's name*, you look new, can I help you?" You: "Yes acctually, I'm here because I'm interested in economy!" Stockmarket assistant: "Yes, yes! Do you know what a stockmarket is?" 2 replies: *"Yes" You now go to the "*" *"No" *Stockmarket assistant: "So, what's a Stockmarket? A stockmarket is a place where people are buying and selling percentages of a firm. The more points of a firm/company you own, the more owner of a company you are." You: How many points do each company have? And how can i buy sell them?" Stockmarket assistant: "Well, each company have 100 points total and can be owned by everysingle trader! The value of the points depends on howmuch cash each firm has. The current amount of cash devided by 100 is the value of each point. So if your company have 100.000.000 gp the value of each point is 1.000.000 gp. If your company have 500 gp the value of each point is 5 gp." Stockmarket assistant: "You understand?" 2 replies: *"No!" You go to the "*". *"Yes, I do understand. Please keep going!" Stockmarket assistant: "The your company have less than 100 gp it is worth nothing and if the number of coins doesn't rise within 24 hours the company is bankrubbed and will be deleted! The Stockmarket keeps the 100gp!" You: "How can I add money to the company?" Stockmarket assistant: "In the stockmarket you can go to managing your Company/Companies here you can see some information that cannot be changed and some that can. You can see name, founder, date of foundation, the person who offically is the owner etc. But you can also change how many of the points you have that is for sale. This will be shown in the stockmarket. There will also be ability to transfere items from your bank box to the company but they will be turned into cash and the trade can't go backwards." You: "How does this help me earning something?" Stockmarket assistant: "The number of points you have is equal to the percentage of the cash of the company you can withdraw from the company's bank-account. If the company has 100.000 gp and you have 46 points you can withdraw 46.000 gp. Also every 24th hour the amount of cash the company has will increase by 10% So if the company has 30.000 gp and the amount rises it will have 33.000 gp." Stockmarket assistant: "I think that was all!" You: "How will i remember this?" *Stockmarket assistant: "Well, you will be issued a book with all the details - better safe than sorry!" Stockmarket assistant: "Interested in starting a company or you want to buy in the stockmarket all ready?" Stockmarket assistant: "Either way we have to be sure that you are able to help your companies grow! Remember you can own as many points as you want in as many different companies as you wishes to!" You: "Make sure i can help?" If your total level is below 1000 this will come up: Stockmarket assistant: "Well, it seems you aren't fit to help your company! Come back then you have a overall level of 1000 or above!" (you can only complete the quest then you have 1000 or above!) If your total level is 1000 or above this will come up: Stockmarket assistant: "Yes! Your overall level seems to be okay!" You: "So can I start now?" Stockmarket assistant: "You just need to speak to my boss, then it's okay!" Part four Starting point: Boss room Items needed: Formal dress 200.000gp *You: "Hello, I'm interested in buying and selling in the stockmarket!" If the maximum of companies is registred this will come up: Boss: "Okay, well we can't have another company registred so please don't start a company now or try another department! Yet we can still set up a Stockmarket account for you" 2 replies: *"I will try another time or place so I can get a company!" You go to "*" *"I would like a stockmarket account!" You go to "*" If there is space for another company: Boss: "Certainly. Now, do you wish to registre a new company or just a stockmarket account? If you registre a new company you will have to get a stockmarket account asswell!" 2 replies *"I would like to get a stock market account!" You go to "*" *"I would like to start a company!" Boss "Okay, we need a fee of 100.000 gp! 50.000 for the company and 50.000 for the account! Also if you starts a company you will need to put in some cash for it to live, 100.000gp to be accurate!" 3 replies *"I have changed my mind!" You go to "*" *"I don't have the money!" You go to "*" *"Okay! I'm ready!" *Boss: "Hand me the 50.000 for the account!" You hands the money over, the boss signs some papers Boss: "And what about the company?" 2 replies *"I don't wish to start at company!" Go to "*" *"I would like a company please!" Boss: "Okay, I need the money!" You hands over the 50.000 gp and he signs a paper! Boss: "Now please fill out this paper" *Company form 1. Name of company:_________________________ 2. Slogan:________________________ 3. Amount of gps to be transferred to company account (minimum 100.000 gp):____________________ 4. Type of company (select skill) *dropdown* You now fill out this paper manually by using your keyboard! If the company name or slogan is all ready in use: Boss: "Sorry that name or slogan is in use!" You go to "*" If the company name is not in use: Boss: "You have now a company, remember boy/girl to make sure it's okay!" You: "Thank you very much sir!" Boss: "No need to sir me, you are not employed in the same company as me, if you understand!" *QUEST'S DONE! Reward: *Ability to use stockmarket and create 1 company at the time. *Formal dress. *Book with details about stockmarket trading and tips! So my idea is that you enter a building which is pretty much like RuneScape-classic bank with some NPC going around. These NPC's will be yelling the updates of what happened forthnight. You can talk to them and they will be telling what happened to the different companies that you own points in. You also access the stockmarket through them. In the stockmarket there will be a big list of the different companies registred in that city and you can see the different information of how many points you got, how many points is for sale and so one. Now even as the stockmarket is updated every night (00:00 english time - Jagex is english therefore) but even as the stockmarket is updated every night the updates you do to each company is instantly. Now to avoid that some people post loads of money in a company and another person takes all of it you acctually needs most people in the company's agreement too redraw the money even if it's a person only owning 1 point and only can take out 1% of the value of the company! Also the company can be set up to be a fishing company so that in the "Stockmarket" there will be a Shop counter where each company can sell items. So if a company is put up as an mining company their shop will be able to sell mining equipment, bars, ores and other stuff related just a bit to mining. They can set the price as they wishes and it will not be affected by people buying or selling to the company like in NPC controlled shops. The owner can control the price that the company wishes to buy and what the company wishes to sell at. Pictures to explain No pictures yet, please if someone could make some. Supporters 1. Veltia 2. nman95 3. Gehackte 4. LeggoMyEggo Now, where I'm sitting it's 1:40 in the morning and I have been working on this topic for 2ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâý hour so if anything is badly explained or you got questions just ask. Also I don't get sad or anything if you directly says it's a bad idea. I wondered my self a little bit if it was a bad idea. In Soviet Russia, Veltia's signature stares at YOU!!The Gielinor Tribune|Blog|The Twax Story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nman96 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 really good idea, support all the way!!!! ~nman95~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theoknight2 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 This means that only 500 companies could be made at a time. there would be mass fighting, and not enough companies would go bankrupt for ppl to get their own company. also, I dont think everybody would want to join a different company, they would want their own. so, no support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
introuble3 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 sry but i don't totally get it :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gehackte Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 like the idea but MORE companies add me to the suporters list How does 20 minutes turn into 2.5 hours? Was your math perhaps magical math? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veltia Posted April 14, 2007 Author Share Posted April 14, 2007 This means that only 500 companies could be made at a time. there would be mass fighting, and not enough companies would go bankrupt for ppl to get their own company. also, I dont think everybody would want to join a different company, they would want their own. so, no support. It could be increased the number. But we should consider lag as well. But that would mainly be in the begining of this feature then alot of people is in there buying selling different points. introuble3, a stockmarket is a place where you buy and sell percentages of the owning of companies. The price on these percentages depends on the income of the company. As in RuneScape there is various ways to earn money but all these requires that either you are stock on the computer everyday or that you use macroing. In a stockmarket you would have the ability to buy and sell items even if you are not on the computer. Pretty much like player owned shops which is not to be suggested. But also here you can sell percentages of the company meaning that you would be able to create a company, give it a nice income, sell it to another person. Or that you keep buying points so that you get a percentage of those companies income. Prette much like real life. Gehackte, added to supporters list! In Soviet Russia, Veltia's signature stares at YOU!!The Gielinor Tribune|Blog|The Twax Story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulfire21 Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 I'm sorry, but this in no way fits in with the themes of RuneScape. I do not see how it could be integrated into RuneScape. Although well thought out, it is a totally unnecessary update that would waste time, energy, and resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veltia Posted April 14, 2007 Author Share Posted April 14, 2007 I'm sorry, but this in no way fits in with the themes of RuneScape. I do not see how it could be integrated into RuneScape. Although well thought out, it is a totally unnecessary update that would waste time, energy, and resources. So, consider it not fitting with RuneScape. I think various other things that doesn't fit all ready is an accepted part of RuneScape. For example: *Cannons, both dwarf and the ones at top of Lumbrigde castle! *Street lights in Keldrahim *The "NPC" stock market in Keldrahim - Yes there is one and you are supporting at least one company of it in "The Giant Dwarf". *Streamboats in Keldrahim *Gnome gliders since the first gliders was drawn by Leonardo Da Vinci in the Renaissance, yet they didn't work! *Diving which is in some member quests! That was waaaaay later IRL! *Baloon flying also in one member quest. It was invented by the french around King Louis the XIVth. *Mine tracks in Keldrahim and Dwarfmine, mine tracks was later too! *Drill Demon camo cloth - Camoflage was also later in history of warfare. * No tenth. point - I will spare you for that. Yes, Stockmarket is an leap, not a big leap though. Beside there is al ready one in Keldrahim that is only for decoration but I suggest one for the players. And also maybe it would wast time, energy and resources. Yet it would add more players to the game and even more members. And it would make the RuneScape prices rise somehow as some people would stop working totally and instead use the Stockmarket. And I believe it would be in all fellow Scapers best that the prices did rise. In Soviet Russia, Veltia's signature stares at YOU!!The Gielinor Tribune|Blog|The Twax Story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screally1 Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 lol its just a game, and a fantasy at that if that is ur feeling, then get rid of all weapons and armor from mith upwards, all non-existant monsters, anything to do with that kind of thing these things add variation, experiance and fun to the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWilch Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 I'm sorry, but this in no way fits in with the themes of RuneScape. I do not see how it could be integrated into RuneScape. Although well thought out, it is a totally unnecessary update that would waste time, energy, and resources. im on his company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeggoMyEggo Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 I love your idea, PUT ME AS #1 SUPPORTER =] Click here for my Falador World 2 Bank/Park and Price GuideClicky click for Recipe for Disaster Weapons and Gloves Guide!Proud owner of a Woodcutting Cape - Sunday, Febuary 11th, 2007Proud owner of a Flecthing Cape - Sunday December 16th, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gehackte Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 maybe not people can make their own company but they could buy percanteges of the company on the stockmarket from the shops you see like i will explain: (example) The Range shop in Varrock is a company you can buy on the stockmarket percantages of the company from the range shop if the range shop is selling more you can sell the percantages u have for more than you bought it How does 20 minutes turn into 2.5 hours? Was your math perhaps magical math? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veltia Posted April 15, 2007 Author Share Posted April 15, 2007 maybe not people can make their own company but they could buy percanteges of the company on the stockmarket from the shops you see like i will explain: (example) The Range shop in Varrock is a company you can buy on the stockmarket percantages of the company from the range shop if the range shop is selling more you can sell the percantages u have for more than you bought it Another idea that I've been thinking about. It would make for sense of a "Stockmarket" yet people would earn nothing In certain shops. Some shops have rarely any costumers. Beside it could acctually be cooler if it was players companies. The third of them is instead of companies use items. Meaning if the market price of the item rises the point price rises and vice versas! In Soviet Russia, Veltia's signature stares at YOU!!The Gielinor Tribune|Blog|The Twax Story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gehackte Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 The third of them is instead of companies use items. Meaning if the market price of the item rises the point price rises and vice versas! ???? :-k :-k :-k How does 20 minutes turn into 2.5 hours? Was your math perhaps magical math? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veltia Posted April 15, 2007 Author Share Posted April 15, 2007 The third of them is instead of companies use items. Meaning if the market price of the item rises the point price rises and vice versas! ???? :-k :-k :-k Forgot to add that it was one of the ideas that I believed to seem bad! In Soviet Russia, Veltia's signature stares at YOU!!The Gielinor Tribune|Blog|The Twax Story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ember3579 Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 are you using a typing translator? if not, then check your grammar. besides that, with a few tweaks, this could be an allright update. as is, it gets a 7.5/10. You never know which rabbit hole you jump into will lead to Wonderland. - Ember3579Aku Soku Zan. - ShinsengumiYou wanna mess with me or my friends? Pick your poison.If you have any complaints about me, please refer to this link. Your problems are important to me.Don't talk smack if you're not willing to say it to the person's face. On the same line, if you're not willing to back up your opinions no matter what, your opinion may as well be nonexistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veltia Posted April 15, 2007 Author Share Posted April 15, 2007 If you, my fellow chap, have a lovely wish of pointing out how bad my not-oral english is you better do it in Danish! And yet no, I didn't, I guess that my own written work could be done an awful lot better than I previous had it done. Yet Microsoft Word is not to be trustd by me as it still lets me have an awfull lot of mistakes. Believe me then I points this out fellow: At 1'o clock in the morning with english as a second langues you wouldn't be writing perfectly. In Soviet Russia, Veltia's signature stares at YOU!!The Gielinor Tribune|Blog|The Twax Story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcneilp Posted April 15, 2007 Share Posted April 15, 2007 maybe not people can make their own company but they could buy percanteges of the company on the stockmarket from the shops you see like i will explain: (example) The Range shop in Varrock is a company you can buy on the stockmarket percantages of the company from the range shop if the range shop is selling more you can sell the percantages u have for more than you bought it What if people buy from players? Not everyone buys from the respective shops as the player market is relativly more flexible in pricing and offers a wider choice...so it would be kinda pointless having a stockmarket for NPC shops. It isn't in the castle, It isn't in the mist, It's a calling of the waters, As they break to show, The new Black Death, With reactors aglow, Do you think your security, Can keep you in purity, You will not shake us off above or belowScottish frictionScottish fiction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gehackte Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 maybe not people can make their own company but they could buy percanteges of the company on the stockmarket from the shops you see like i will explain: (example) The Range shop in Varrock is a company you can buy on the stockmarket percantages of the company from the range shop if the range shop is selling more you can sell the percantages u have for more than you bought it What if people buy from players? Not everyone buys from the respective shops as the player market is relativly more flexible in pricing and offers a wider choice...so it would be kinda pointless having a stockmarket for NPC shops. well how will the differences in price be seen by runescape because if u buy from a player company. how can jagex see de difference in the prices and than change the price of the percentages you bought. How does 20 minutes turn into 2.5 hours? Was your math perhaps magical math? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamdan Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Considering the average intelligence of runescape, I doubt this update would be used much. Also it is fairly expensive which will put more people off. Also, it doesn't really tie in with the whole runescape theme. It would be really out of place. The idea would be a huge update, especially codewise. Jagex probably wouldn't bother doing it. I don't think it will attract members, which is what updates are for anyway. The stockmarket doesn't appeal to most 13 year olds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unorclan Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 i would love this!!! problem is, RS is a midevil type game....doubt they hot stockmarket back then Thanks to the amazing talent of Jopie211 for the sig!Finest Fist of Guthix Strategy Guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke_Freedom Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Apart from that the exact mechanics you are suggestion are way too ineffective regarding scammers who are only interested in stealing others money I don't get this aspect either: Also every 24th hour the amount of cash the company has will increase by 10% So if the company has 30.000 gp and the amount rises it will have 33.000 gp." The money is increased 10% / day.. By who? The game? Not a good idea. More interesting and safe is Gehackte's idea to create stocks on NPC shops, although even that would require quite a bit more thought. Still, the ability to own player owned shops (unrelated to this idea) seems more like what the game really needs. And I don't get why people say it wouldn't fit in with RuneScape's timeline -> the oldest stock known tracks back to the year 1606. The value of my bank at its height. Estimated value at the peak of the rares market: 250 billion+.Most likely the largest trade in RuneScape ever. Estimated value at the peak of the rares market: 70 billion+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryuuka Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 send link to jagex?? love that quest idea Played since February 200113th to 30 huntingfiremaking cape achieved 6th August 2008_-_-_-_Quest cape achieved 19th August 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamdan Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 And I don't get why people say it wouldn't fit in with RuneScape's timeline -> the oldest stock known tracks back to the year 1606. It's not a matter of how long ago there was a stock market. Runescape is a game about killing monsters, gaining skills and doing quests. A stock market would not suit the theme of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke_Freedom Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 [it's not a matter of how long ago there was a stock market. Runescape is a game about killing monsters, gaining skills and doing quests. A stock market would not suit the theme of the game. You forgot trading as an aspect of the game too. The value of my bank at its height. Estimated value at the peak of the rares market: 250 billion+.Most likely the largest trade in RuneScape ever. Estimated value at the peak of the rares market: 70 billion+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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