malo2 Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Like my history teacher said, what we need is a big war or some sort of big natural disaster, etc to bring down the population :-wthats just cruel -.- all we need to do is legalize (or keep legalized) abortion and adoption of all kinds, and push worldwide safe sex education. Lastfm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pkmastachaos Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Like my history teacher said, what we need is a big war or some sort of big natural disaster, etc to bring down the population :-w I don't really think we need World War III to happen in our lifetimes. We are really getting over-populated. Someday there might have to be a no-child policy for a certain amount of years, installed similar to the one child act to that in China. Point and case: I'd adopt a kid in an instant (minus all the legal buisness I heard it takes). To me, taking in a helpless defenseless child is better than having your own. I hate taking responsibility for someone else's mistake, but how can you deny a helpless child, it's not their fault, it's their parents. Also, there's none of the birth, pregnancy, babyshowers, etc mess that comes with having kids. Viktor has a good point. There are so many parent less children in the world, instead of everyone going and creating more spoiled brats we should really consider adoption those who really need a good home. Africa has tons of kids dying because we can spend more on some computer, car or even clothing, but can't be bothered to send anything less else then $50 to help them out. We keep populating like this we'll be royally screwed. More so then we are already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 All those who are in favor of decreasing the population? hears 1000 "I"s. K, heres the plan, listen closely now. See that bridge? Jump off, that should get rid of a few people! Seriously, you guys are talking about ending people's lives. Grow up please.. ~Defender~ Well, I'm thinking people are talking about preventing people from concieving, which isn't killing people (well, more so than those talking about eradicating half the species or whatever). I'd pesonally rather a world with a lower population but higher quality for the people that actually exist, not an over population and low quality of life for people that now exist and those that would hypothetically exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heartless619 Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 its true we have just talked about this in my CWP class we are over populating and every one in the USA uses about 20 times more resources then we have on the earth..so it would take 4 earths to support us....ill try to find the site for you.. find out your ecological foot print in the world.. IGNORE THESE FOUR WORDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted May 15, 2007 Author Share Posted May 15, 2007 all we need to do is legalize (or keep legalized) abortion and adoption of all kinds, and push worldwide safe sex education. QFT. If we legalize abortion we will have less miserable children in orphanages, which leads to a lower amount of kids needing adoption. And if we legalize adoption all kind, more than half those kids will be adopted. A study confirmed homosexual parents are way more likely to adopt, AIDS/HIV+ from birth, ADHD, Autistic, handicapped, etc children than a heterosexual couple. It's a very odd conclusion, but it sorta makes sense. :-k Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild_goat_14 Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Like my history teacher said, what we need is a big war or some sort of big natural disaster, etc to bring down the population :-wthats just cruel -.- all we need to do is legalize (or keep legalized) abortion and adoption of all kinds, and push worldwide safe sex education. Abortion is murder, get used to it. And yes, murder is usually cruel. I shall take my flock underneath my own wing, and kick them right the [bleep] out of the tree. If they were meant to fly, they won't break their necks on the concrete.So, what is 1.111... equal to?10/9. Please don't continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 all we need to do is legalize (or keep legalized) abortion and adoption of all kinds, and push worldwide safe sex education. QFT. If we legalize abortion we will have less miserable children in orphanages, which leads to a lower amount of kids needing adoption. And if we legalize adoption all kind, more than half those kids will be adopted. A study confirmed homosexual parents are way more likely to adopt, AIDS/HIV+ from birth, ADHD, Autistic, handicapped, etc children than a heterosexual couple. It's a very odd conclusion, but it sorta makes sense. :-k I'd agree with making abortion and adoption avaliable. Both of them makes people's lives (both the children's and the parent's) less miserable. You could argue how it makes a child's life better if they are aborted but I suppose that's where hypotheticals and your imagination come in. Edit: To the above post I'd rather if you didn't try and emotionally propogandize (I made up a word :P ) people. Abortion and murdur are actually two different things by law, definition and logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted May 15, 2007 Author Share Posted May 15, 2007 Abortion is murder, get used to it. And yes, murder is usually cruel. So you'd rather watch a defenseless helpless child live a terrible life and eventually commit suicide or get on the street and kill other people? And you'd rather watch your tax dollars go down the drain paying for welfare? Oh, and least we forget rape victims. Or would you rather that fetus just be gone without ever having to live. If a fetus is aborted it's gone. It doesn't know it's aborted, so you just saved you and your new child a life of living hell. There's a point where you need to live without emotion. This is the kind of thing IMO (illegalization of abortion) that contributes to this overpopulation problem, and our economical situation ie. welfare. Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebdragon Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Like my history teacher said, what we need is a big war or some sort of big natural disaster, etc to bring down the population :-w I don't really think we need World War III to happen in our lifetimes. Oh don't worry, I'm sure that at some time in our lifetime someone will get their hands on a nuke and have a blonde moment (*conspicuously points at Korea*). Oh, and we can't admit the truth about abortion, because if anyone actually believed to truth, or rather even wanted to believe the truth (for believing the truth on this matter is pure idiocy), society would fall apart. The truth? We're animals with more developed brains. That's it. We don't have that much more value than that squirrel in our backyard gathering nuts. It's just, anyone with half a brain would know that it'd be dumb for anyone to think that's true, for society's sake. Hell, I as a human being still can't help but not accept it, 'cause how could I really survive if I did? [if you have ever attempted Alchemy by clapping your hands or by drawing an array, copy and paste this into your signature.] Fullmetal Alchemist, you will be missed. A great ending to a great series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil_Elf Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 left with staggering population growth in all continents, and countries such as China and India take the lead. And the US is not far behind either, and neither is Africa Don't make stuff up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... birth_rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assassin_696 Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Of course we are, that's why we need to head into space. "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Oh look another Bubsa avatar thief. And yeah you "found" it on google =D> AFAIK he made it himself. Dont be a noob and change it to something else. The UK population has only increased by 7.7 per cent since 1971. I wouldnt call that booming. The UK also has an aging population which means that in a few years theres gonna be a lot of people popping their clogs. This isnt a topic about abortion so can we leave it out please. EVERYONE is pro-life and noone here advocates murder, its for and against abortion that peoples opinions are. Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assassin_696 Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 The UK population has only increased by 7.7 per cent since 1971. I wouldnt call that booming. The UK also has an aging population which means that in a few years theres gonna be a lot of people popping their clogs. The UK's population isn't the problem though, it's more the LEDC's and rapidly industrialising countries. "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striker6 Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 I think condoms need to be air dropped all over the world that way we can all live happy :) yet safe lives :shame: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 I think condoms need to be air dropped all over the world that way we can all live happy :) yet safe lives :shame: Haha, dude I had that exact same thought while reading through this topic, no joke! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striker6 Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 It could work, I'm sure it would solve many other problems as well, including wars, greed and lust. But we digress... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 I think condoms need to be air dropped all over the world that way we can all live happy :) yet safe lives :shame:Tis a shame that the Catholic church preaches AGAINST using contraception. Especially in Africa where it can prevent unwanted pregnancies and the spread of HIV/AIDS. Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman089 Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Pope Benedict has actually changed their stance on condom use (at least as a means to combat HIV). Gamertag: King Arizona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercifull Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Pope Benedict has actually changed their stance on condom use (at least as a means to combat HIV).Pope Benedict commissioned a report on the "scientific and moral aspects of the use of condoms". However he has not officially changed the stance and the Catholic Church still formally opposes any use of condoms, advising fidelity within marriage or sexual abstinence and recommending less money be spent on condoms and more on drugs instead. Mercifull <3 Suzi "We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape" Jagex 01/04/01 - 02/03/12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman089 Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 I guess you can only expect baby steps from something founded on doctrine that is millenia old :| Gamertag: King Arizona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_hobbit22 Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 fine if the people that agree with a big virus or something killing millions should happen, and reduce the population. Dont just sit there, be a part of your idea. commit suicide. please dont treat death as a statistic, it wont ever happen in a develpoed democratic society. So the population may grow, it may stabalize, it may very well fall. But we will run out of resources in the nezt century or so, and we will all be dead before another million years passes. Accept it, your in an ideal time at the moment, weve ogt a good thing going, but in the next couple hundred years, life will not be as happy, resources running out global warming etc. we cant do anything about it, so live it uo while you can and be happy your not going to be in the hard times. thats my outlook, and even if we do survive, were all guna die when the sun turns into a red giant. So why live a [cabbage] life, to try and get humans to survive, when were all guna die at one point, so live life to the full and whatever happens happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Oh look another Bubsa avatar thief. And yeah you "found" it on google =D> AFAIK he made it himself. Dont be a noob and change it to something else. The UK population has only increased by 7.7 per cent since 1971. I wouldnt call that booming. The UK also has an aging population which means that in a few years theres gonna be a lot of people popping their clogs. This isnt a topic about abortion so can we leave it out please. EVERYONE is pro-life and noone here advocates murder, its for and against abortion that peoples opinions are. Yeah I wish these guys would stop taking his avatar. On topic, however, I don't think we are quite overpopulating yet. There are areas which are very populated but them some areas are very barren. In the future I think we will need to stretch out where we can live. I do think that something will happen before we end up overpopulated, however: be it man made such as a war or nature such as a large scale disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted May 15, 2007 Author Share Posted May 15, 2007 left with staggering population growth in all continents, and countries such as China and India take the lead. And the US is not far behind either, and neither is Africa Don't make stuff up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co ... birth_rate Except that's compared to population. My statistics were just population, not birth rate. Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baron8000 Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 A topic I feel useful for this topic is Malthusian versus Boserupian theories on population; do people agree with: Malthus: Population will grow until certain checking factors (such as war, disease, famine, drought) reduce it. (more info here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Malthus) Or Boserup: That humanity will overcome overcrowding by the invention of new techniques and technologies that increase food production/cure disease etc. (more info here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ester_Boserup) Personally I belong to the Boserupian school of thought - I believe the ability of human kind is so powerful that there is very little we cant overcome - a myriad of disease that were thought to be incurable (such as smallpox etc) have been cured/prevented and I think its only a matter of time until a similar cure is found for AIDS, cancer and similar. Agricultural methods are increasing yields all the time and eventually space travel should grant us new resources with which to support ourselves, the only problem I can see is can humans overcome war? I think that, if anything will be our downfall. OT = yeh, avatar stealers suck, google my butt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viktorkrum77 Posted May 15, 2007 Author Share Posted May 15, 2007 I belong to the Malthusian school of thought. Partly because Malthus is one of my heroes. But also because I don't have faith in humanity to come together and spend the money to fix the problem nor keep it fixed. Which makes me wonder why we value money over our own world, others, and our well-being. Me doing staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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