the reason the PS3 isnt selling is the price and there are few games for it but once Metal gear solid 4,devil may cry 4,GTA4 and assassins creed come out im geting my ps3.

 

 

 

The point im making is that no console has ever.EVER.Sold as many units as the ps2 and the X-BOX is 94 MILLION UNITS BEHIND!

 

 

 

And the ps2 was out a year or two before the x box i will admit that

 

you realise the bolded games are also coming out on 360 and Metal Gear Solid 4 will probably come out on 360 as well

 

Yeah, the 360 is ripping off exclusives from the ps3 at an alarming rate. But i doubt MGS4 will come out for the 360. Hideo Kojima (creator) and sony go back pretty far, he's too loyal to sony. BUT, Konami has also announced that if it doesn't cut it in profit, mgs4 may be ported to another system. At present, they have no plans for it.

 

But as for other games (assassins creed, gta4, devil may cry 4, unreal tournament 07, beautiful katamari, fatal inertia, etc) that lost ps3 exclusivity, its akin to rats leaving a sinking ship.

 

Smart rats.

Do all of you ACTUALLY think that the only reason that the PS2 was the most successful was because it was released 9 months earlier? :lol:

 

 

 

I have only ever had 1 problem with my PS2, and it was because it fell off of my entertainment center. It started having problems with the disc tray and I opened it up and fixed it in about 30 min

 

 

 

And once your 3 year warranty goes out, you will all be screwed.

 

 

 

I remember you saying you weren't a fan of any sort on a different thread..it's clear you're a sony fanboy :roll:

 

 

 

No, I know why the Ps2 was most successful. It released 9 months earlier, and had a well-built library of games and more games to come by the time the xbox or GC was released. It had more variety in games, and it was a fun console to play and own overall..not to mention the DVD support (which, at the time, DVD players were fairly expensive).

 

 

 

And you may have only had one problem with your Ps2..I haven't had any, luckily..but that doesn't mean that all sony products are perfect. My friend's Ps2 had a loose cable that rendered it useless until we fixed it, his disc tray is nearly destroyed, and his fan occasionally stops working..and he has had his for a shorter time than me. My neighbor's fell from his TV stand, and it couldn't be repaired. If anything, Sony's products are just as easily broken or damaged as microsoft's or nintendos.

If you want to call me a fanboy, at least call me a Nintendo fanboy

 

 

 

No, I know why the Ps2 was most successful. It released 9 months earlier, and had a well-built library of games and more games to come by the time the xbox or GC was released. It had more variety in games, and it was a fun console to play and own overall..not to mention the DVD support (which, at the time, DVD players were fairly expensive).

Does that sound familiar to the situation that a certain console is in during this generation? :wink:

 

No, I know why the Ps2 was most successful. It released 9 months earlier, and had a well-built library of games and more games to come by the time the xbox or GC was released. It had more variety in games, and it was a fun console to play and own overall..not to mention the DVD support (which, at the time, DVD players were fairly expensive).

 

 

Does that sound familiar to the situation that a certain console is in during this generation?

 

 

 

Yes, the 360. We can only hope that they don't screw up next gen like Sony is doing.

 

No, I know why the Ps2 was most successful. It released 9 months earlier, and had a well-built library of games and more games to come by the time the xbox or GC was released. It had more variety in games, and it was a fun console to play and own overall..not to mention the DVD support (which, at the time, DVD players were fairly expensive).

 

 

Does that sound familiar to the situation that a certain console is in during this generation?

 

 

 

Yes, the 360. We can only hope that they don't screw up next gen like Sony is doing.

 

Its like the 360, minus the DVD part. Whether the ps3 or the 360 offers the better deal on their respective formats is a topic of its own.

Those numbers don't suprise me. Sony has a strong base in foreign markets especially Japan and Europe. However, to Microsoft fanboys' defense, the PS3 ain't doing so well now. I hate the fanboy fights though, so I won't get into this one.

Hideo Kojima (creator) and sony go back pretty far, he's too loyal to sony.

 

 

 

Is that why we've found MGS 2: Substance on the xbox, as well as MGS 3: Subsistence (i think MS3:SS was on the 'Box) on there..along with an enhanced version of MGS 1 on the GC ( Twin Snakes)?

 

 

 

I wouldn't doubt that an enhanced MGS 4 will eventually make it to the 360.

Hideo Kojima (creator) and sony go back pretty far, he's too loyal to sony.

 

 

 

Is that why we've found MGS 2: Substance on the xbox, as well as MGS 3: Subsistence (i think MS3:SS was on the 'Box) on there..along with an enhanced version of MGS 1 on the GC ( Twin Snakes)?

 

 

 

I wouldn't doubt that an enhanced MGS 4 will eventually make it to the 360.

 

 

 

For the right money, it might. But those games that came to xbox were long before out on Sony. I doubt they will have a same day release for a new Metal Gear Solid game.

Yes, I know this. But they released the xbox version at the same time as the Ps2 version of the enhanced game. And the GC? It was the only console to recieve the enhanced MGS 1. Jusging by the past, I wouldn't be surprised. It'd be bad for Sony..it's 2 biggest awaited games are FFXIII and MGS 4.

Hideo Kojima (creator) and sony go back pretty far, he's too loyal to sony.

 

 

 

Is that why we've found MGS 2: Substance on the xbox, as well as MGS 3: Subsistence (i think MS3:SS was on the 'Box) on there..along with an enhanced version of MGS 1 on the GC ( Twin Snakes)?

 

 

 

I wouldn't doubt that an enhanced MGS 4 will eventually make it to the 360.

 

Right, lol. I assumed that everyone understood that I meant MGS4 would release on the ps3 first, where it is important. Only after Sony is comfortable with its sales will a port for the 360 come out.

 

But reason i said that is because I've read an interview of Kojima, and he said he would prefer it being an exclusive to the ps3, because he said he had some history with Sony. Something like that anyway.

Take in the factor that PS2 came out a while before Xbox, and it's not as impressive.

 

 

 

And the fact you pointed out about the PS2 selling more in the last month than the 360 isn't that big of a deal either, PS2 is around $100 - $200 cheaper than the 360, therefore it appeals to more people and gets a lot more sales.

Sony sucks.

 

 

 

(Sorry, I just had to say that.)

 

 

 

 

 

Okay, I edited so this isn't complete spam. The Ps3 is losing to the Wii and 360, and the PSP isn't that great a handheld when you get down to it. Sony fanboys irritate the hell out of me, I'm sorry.

And that is opposed to being irritated by fanboys who are loyal to a company who have admitted that every single one of their consoles is defective in some way?

 

 

 

At least Microsoft had the balls to tell everyone, they could've just not told everyone and let their consoles go to hell and lose even more money. And I'm pretty sure they knew that the loyal fans wouldn't care, seeing as how they at least told them. Plus, they also extended the warranty, making the blow so much easier to take.

 

 

 

And once the warranty goes out on the 360, then you will be in the same situation. No [cabbage] you will have to buy a new PS2 if the warranty goes out, but it came out 7 years ago. ITS OLD. But it still brings up the point, I have never known anyone to ever have to call Sony for a replacement product. EVER. Not even a TV, a DVD player or a console or anything like that. And I have only known 1 person to ever need a replacement Nintendo product. So who do you think loses here?

 

 

 

I used to own a PS2 back when they came out, like... when they were fresh. Mine broke and I had to pay to get it fixed, while my warranty was still valid too. And also, the warranty has gone out on a lot of 360's, and yet they're refunding the people that had theirs fixed when the warranty was still 1 year.

 

 

 

EDIT: Sorry for double post.

Take in the factor that PS2 came out a while before Xbox, and it's not as impressive.

 

 

 

And the fact you pointed out about the PS2 selling more in the last month than the 360 isn't that big of a deal either, PS2 is around $100 - $200 cheaper than the 360, therefore it appeals to more people and gets a lot more sales.

And if I use the 360 price as an excuse to why its winning, I'd probably get flamed

Take in the factor that PS2 came out a while before Xbox, and it's not as impressive.

 

 

 

And the fact you pointed out about the PS2 selling more in the last month than the 360 isn't that big of a deal either, PS2 is around $100 - $200 cheaper than the 360, therefore it appeals to more people and gets a lot more sales.

And if I use the 360 price as an excuse to why its winning, I'd probably get flamed

 

 

 

Yes the price is a big point, but you also have to remember that Sony doesn't do a lot to advertise the PS3, and the fact that there are such a small amount of games, and of those only a few good ones makes, a lot of people want the 360. People buy video games/systems to have fun and play games, right now Sony really isn't offering many games for us to play.

 

 

 

EDIT: Also please realize that I am not a 360 fanboy. While I adore and love my 360, I do plan on getting a PS3 sometime soon. The future of the PS3 is indeed looking bright, a lot of good games are coming to it.

the fact that im making here is that the ps2 is much better than the x box.Its sold 94million units more than the X(tremely aweful)Box.

Playstation two was out two years ealier than X-box. Also the X-box was an enitrely new console, whereas there had already been a Playstation. So the X-box had to start from nothing. Also, Microsoft stopped producing hardware and almost all software for the X-box since early 2006, because they released their new console. So the playstation 2 is alive for seven years now (and counting). And the X-box has only lived for four years.

 

 

 

I'm sure there has already been someone who pointed out all of this though.

Playstation two was out two years ealier than X-box. Also the X-box was an enitrely new console, whereas there had already been a Playstation. So the X-box had to start from nothing. Also, Microsoft stopped producing hardware and almost all software for the X-box since early 2006, because they released their new console. So the playstation 2 is alive for seven years now (and counting). And the X-box has only lived for four years.

 

 

 

I'm sure there has already been someone who pointed out all of this though.

 

 

 

Pretty much hit the nail on the head there.

 

 

 

 

 

Not like I'm going to get into this 'debate' though. Shoving around numbers proves nothing.

 

 

 

 

 

Have fun trying to continue on your little fanboy crusade here though sycosis, its kinda cute. :XD:

the fact that im making here is that the ps2 is much better than the x box.Its sold 94million units more than the X(tremely aweful)Box.

 

 

 

Numbers don't show which console is better..it just shows which has sold more. Sure the Ps2 sold 94 million more units (supposedly)..but hey, it was out 9 months sooner..it had a greater library and a large fanbase already set up..it had all sortsa features, and sony improved upon the Playstation to get a great console.

 

 

 

The 'Box, meanwhile, was Microsoft's first attempt. It obviously didn't sell more because it didn't bring out a wide enough variety of games. And mind you, the Ps2 has been out for several years. A lot of those sales are liable to be people who bought a second or third Ps2 as a replacement. These numbers don't make the Ps2 better..it is just a more popular console. Going by my opinion..I think the Xbox is much better. According to you, my opinion is wrong because 94 million more people like the Ps2 better -.-

Playstation two was out two years ealier than X-box. Also the X-box was an enitrely new console, whereas there had already been a Playstation. So the X-box had to start from nothing. Also, Microsoft stopped producing hardware and almost all software for the X-box since early 2006, because they released their new console. So the playstation 2 is alive for seven years now (and counting). And the X-box has only lived for four years.

 

 

 

I'm sure there has already been someone who pointed out all of this though.

Are you saying that the reason the PS2 sold more than the xbox was because of the PS2 was out longer? you're saying that the xbox would of sold more if it was out before and had a previous gen console?

Playstation two was out two years ealier than X-box. Also the X-box was an enitrely new console, whereas there had already been a Playstation. So the X-box had to start from nothing. Also, Microsoft stopped producing hardware and almost all software for the X-box since early 2006, because they released their new console. So the playstation 2 is alive for seven years now (and counting). And the X-box has only lived for four years.

 

 

 

I'm sure there has already been someone who pointed out all of this though.

Are you saying that the reason the PS2 sold more than the xbox was because of the PS2 was out longer? you're saying that the xbox would of sold more if it was out before and had a previous gen console?

 

 

 

He is saying the reason it sold more is it had a reputation behind it. The playstation was largely popular. People had no idea what the Xbox was all about when it came out.

Playstation two was out two years ealier than X-box. Also the X-box was an enitrely new console, whereas there had already been a Playstation. So the X-box had to start from nothing. Also, Microsoft stopped producing hardware and almost all software for the X-box since early 2006, because they released their new console. So the playstation 2 is alive for seven years now (and counting). And the X-box has only lived for four years.

 

 

 

I'm sure there has already been someone who pointed out all of this though.

Are you saying that the reason the PS2 sold more than the xbox was because of the PS2 was out longer? you're saying that the xbox would of sold more if it was out before and had a previous gen console?

 

 

 

He is saying the reason it sold more is it had a reputation behind it. The playstation was largely popular. People had no idea what the Xbox was all about when it came out.

I doubt the 360 will break 20mil. The PS2 was successful because it was for everyone, it had every genre and a great price. It wasn't because of its fanbase, its release date or anything like that. It was because of how good of a console it was.

Playstation two was out two years ealier than X-box. Also the X-box was an enitrely new console, whereas there had already been a Playstation. So the X-box had to start from nothing. Also, Microsoft stopped producing hardware and almost all software for the X-box since early 2006, because they released their new console. So the playstation 2 is alive for seven years now (and counting). And the X-box has only lived for four years.

 

 

 

I'm sure there has already been someone who pointed out all of this though.

Are you saying that the reason the PS2 sold more than the xbox was because of the PS2 was out longer? you're saying that the xbox would of sold more if it was out before and had a previous gen console?

 

 

 

He is saying the reason it sold more is it had a reputation behind it. The playstation was largely popular. People had no idea what the Xbox was all about when it came out.

I doubt the 360 will break 20mil. The PS2 was successful because it was for everyone, it had every genre and a great price. It wasn't because of its fanbase, its release date or anything like that. It was because of how good of a console it was.

 

 

 

You fanboyism is quite sad. If you look at the technical specs of both the Xbox and the ps2, the xbox was faster than the ps2. You can even argue that the xbox had better games with the Halo franchise which came out later. You can not disprove facts. The xbox was Microsoft's first atemp and nobody really knew what it was but the ps2 had a predecessor, the playstation which was popular and people were familiar with the brand already.

 

 

 

You don't think the 360, it's already sold more than 11 million and will be on the market for at least another 4 years like the rest of the consoles. It will easily surpass the 50mil mark with the upcoming price drop and the new games coming out such as Halo3, GTA4, ect.

 

 

 

http://nexgenwars.com/

I could edit that page in Wikipedia to say that 1 billion xbox 360's have been sold...

 

 

 

You really shouldn't believe everything on Wikipedia...

I could edit that page in Wikipedia to say that 1 billion xbox 360's have been sold...

 

 

 

You really shouldn't believe everything on Wikipedia...

 

 

 

+1

Playstation two was out two years ealier than X-box. Also the X-box was an enitrely new console, whereas there had already been a Playstation. So the X-box had to start from nothing. Also, Microsoft stopped producing hardware and almost all software for the X-box since early 2006, because they released their new console. So the playstation 2 is alive for seven years now (and counting). And the X-box has only lived for four years.

 

 

 

I'm sure there has already been someone who pointed out all of this though.

Are you saying that the reason the PS2 sold more than the xbox was because of the PS2 was out longer? you're saying that the xbox would of sold more if it was out before and had a previous gen console?

 

 

 

He is saying the reason it sold more is it had a reputation behind it. The playstation was largely popular. People had no idea what the Xbox was all about when it came out.

I doubt the 360 will break 20mil. The PS2 was successful because it was for everyone, it had every genre and a great price. It wasn't because of its fanbase, its release date or anything like that. It was because of how good of a console it was.

 

U know thats a bet you would lose. The 360 already has 11+ mil, and it hasn't lost momentum. A better assumption would be that the ps3 wouldn't break 20 mil in years, maybe not even 10 mil within 2 years. Remains to be seen though.

 

And you realize all those criteria could be applied to like, every console that's every existed (except maybe the price part, *cough* ps3 *cough*). The facts that the ps1 created a massive fanbase, and that its rivals were a first-timer (xbox) and a console with few games (gamecube) were a major reason for its sales. True, it had a great library, and that was another reason it was superior.

 

But since the ps3 has none of these advantages (or any advantage at all), i doubt it will ever garner sales like those of the ps2.

You fanboyism is quite sad.

Wait, I'm a fanboy by defending the best selling console in history? What could be considered the pinnacle of gaming? You see all the smart guys on here who despise the PS3, but consider the PS2 to be a great console? When the CEO of the gaming division stepped down, he was remembered for bringing the PS2, not the PS3

 

 

 

If you look at the technical specs of both the Xbox and the ps2, the xbox was faster than the ps2.

http://www.nexgenwars.com , notice how the winner is the one with the weakest cpu( Wii), and the last place is the best?(PS3)

 

 

 

You can even argue that the xbox had better games with the Halo franchise which came out later.

Halo is overrated. You ever notice how you don't see many Halo topics on here? Its because this is an intelligent forum. The PS2 had a much much larger library and variety than Xbox

 

 

 

the playstation which was popular and people were familiar with the brand already.

The PS1 wasn't the winner of its generation, so its not like the majority of people went with it or anything

 

 

 

It will easily surpass the 50mil mark

Rofl. Are you serious? Is that a joke? :lol: All 3 of the current consoles on the market are all contenders to be the winner. This is one of the few console wars where the winner wont be 1 sided, it wont be decided for years. The PS2 COMPLETELY dominated the last generation, that can't be said for any console this generation

 

 

 

I could edit that page in Wikipedia to say that 1 billion xbox 360's have been sold...

 

 

 

You really shouldn't believe everything on Wikipedia...

You're ignorant.

 

 

 

The 360 already has 11+ mil, and it hasn't lost momentum

During November of last year, the 360 had 10 million consoles. In 8 months since then, it has sold 1 million consoles