October 4, 200718 yr nah, i used the rellekka 1's easy fairy ring good point tho. [bleep]ing hate rock crabs so much.
October 4, 200718 yr hmmmm... this is sooo intresting If i got 1gp for everytime sum1 said the word "noob",I would have a full p hat set.nahhh ill continue mis-spelling^!click for blog!^sigs by: woopidoo2|yaff2|4be2jue|me|guthix121
October 4, 200718 yr W00t! Time to stock up on bone bolts for slaying and general ranging! And where is this magic bronze knife shop? Sig by me :D1337 total as of 3/2/08 at 14 : 52 GMT. Recieved 1338 total 32 minutes laterHawt Pixel avvy by JopieBarrow drops: (2) - Verac's Brassard, Ahrim's Hood
October 4, 200718 yr W00t! Time to stock up on bone bolts for slaying and general ranging! And where is this magic bronze knife shop? Rogues den
October 4, 200718 yr Sometime ago i used bronze bolts at hobgoblins near crafting guild in the non peak hours on w17 and this are the results. After 100 shots with a bit of telegrabing: 1.333'k according to my exp/h. Stuff used that gave range bonus: normal crossbow, d'hide body and legs. Exp/h: about 16k half on rapid, half on accurate. Time used: About 5 mins.
October 4, 200718 yr Author Rough Pest control statistics added! Help Tip.it create a new RANGED MAX HIT CALCULATOR ~ crossbows, darts!
October 5, 200718 yr how much would 99 Range cost from...73? I am Teh_King[My dA][My Last.FM][My Twitter]
October 5, 200718 yr So I just bought a Bone C'bow and 10k bone bolts and I'm going ranging at Bloodvelds in the Slayer Tower. I'll do some calculations while I'm there, if you want. Retired Tip.It Mod || Admin and Founder of Caesar 3 Mod Squad! All are welcome!
October 5, 200718 yr So from what ive read bone bolts > bronze bolts > bronze arrows ? :twisted: YoUr UnDeR ArReSt AnYtHiNg YoU SaY WiLl Be MiSqUoTeD AnD UsEd AgAiNsT YoU :twisted:
October 5, 200718 yr Author how much would 99 Range cost from...73? thats impossible to say! since it matters where you train, what you train with, what you're wearing while training (accumulator), if you're picking up ammo and things like that... So from what ive read bone bolts > bronze bolts > bronze arrows ? well, i havent tested bronze bolts or bronze arrows, but i know for sure bone bolts hit higher, and that the bone crossbow has a special.. it might be better overall ..compared to other cheap bolts \ Help Tip.it create a new RANGED MAX HIT CALCULATOR ~ crossbows, darts!
October 5, 200718 yr nice, still haven't checked out the shop update, and probably won't, but this could possibly help with people training range. Nice find. 99 Fletching 99 Attack 99 Constitution 99 Cooking 99 StrengthGamertag: H8tebringer
October 5, 200718 yr Bronze knives > bone bolts > bronze bolts and since bone bolts are 1 coin more and bone cbow shoot faster then rune crossbow. go with it even if it requires 2 or more quests.
October 5, 200718 yr NEW TEST Stats: 92 range, Bone crossbow + bone bolts, +137 range bonus, at rock crabs Results: Shot 100 bone bolts (no accumulator) in 4:53 min and achieved 3008 ranged xp in that 4:53 ESTIMATED EXP/HOUR = 36,958 XP/HOUR GOLD WASTED: 4,914 GOLD/HOUR (no accumulator) My test: Method: Bone Crossbow and Bone Bolts at Bloodvelds Timeframe : 30 minutes Range Level : 71 Start Experience: 839,052 Final Experience: 855,468 Total Exp Gained: 16,416 Start Bolts : 10,000 Final Bolts : 9,353 Bolts Fired : 647 Bolts Retrieved : 477 Break Rate : 26.28% Cost per Bolt : 4gp Cost/Bolts Fired: 2,588gp Cost/Retrieved : 1,908gp Total Cost : 680gp/30min Timeframe: 60 Minutes Total Exp Gained: 32,832 Total Cost : 1360gp/hr Retired Tip.It Mod || Admin and Founder of Caesar 3 Mod Squad! All are welcome!
October 5, 200718 yr Author thnx Lunar_Drifter! my test was without picking up bolts at all, just firing as fast as possible.. oh can you edit in your range level? Help Tip.it create a new RANGED MAX HIT CALCULATOR ~ crossbows, darts!
October 5, 200718 yr Yea I thought about that just as I was loading this page. :XD: 71 Range though. Retired Tip.It Mod || Admin and Founder of Caesar 3 Mod Squad! All are welcome!
October 5, 200718 yr Oh.. forgot to mention that I'm ranging at Bloodvelds. :) Retired Tip.It Mod || Admin and Founder of Caesar 3 Mod Squad! All are welcome!
October 5, 200718 yr Nice thread, it was about time too :) ! Range is finally getting the attention it deserves Now to get a void set and compare 100 bronze knives with and without the set. ...Arg just realized I'd have to use the medium PC boats. I wonder if the 20 hours or so spent getting the void set would justify the extra XP/hour :-k I can conduct the test as I have the full set along with the Ranger Helmet. I'll get to it now if you don't mind :P I'll be back later with the information, for now, I'm off to a BBQ :thumbsup: . EDIT: I have the numbers. Test #1 Training at the caged Ogres at King Lathas' Training camp, it takes me 2:15 on average to throw off 100 Bronze Knives on rapid. In Black Dragonhide Armour Starting Exp - 5,060,239 Ending - 5,061,939 Experience gained in 2:15 - 1,700 Experience gained per hour (27.9 x 1,700) - 47,441 In Full Void Knight Ranged Starting exp - 5,061,939 Ending - 5,063,815 Experience gained in 2:15 - 1876 Experience gained per hour (27.9 x 1,876) - 52,340 Full void knight ranged gives 4,899 more experience per hour than full black dragonhide does. VOID KNIGHT IS BETTER. If it takes 20 hours to attain full VK, you will make up for the lost experience in, assuming you have used that 20 hours to range (which is 948,820 exp tallied up) in black d'hide, in 18 hours, not counting levels gained in that 20 hours. Test #2 Training at the caged ogres at King Lathas' Training Ground, I trained for half an hour using the Dorgeshuun Crossbow... Black Dragonhide Armour Starting exp - 5,091,911 Ending exp - 5,110,347 Experience gained in 30:00 - 18,436 Experience gained per hour - 36,872 Full Void Knight Ranged Starting exp - 5,071,703 Ending exp - 5,091,911 Experience gained in 30:00 - 20,208 Experience gained per hour - 40,426 Full void knight ranged gives 3,554 more experience per hour than Black Dragonhide. VOID KNIGHT RANGED IS BETTER. If it takes 20 hours to attain full VK, you will make up for the lost experience in, assuming you have used that 20 hours to range (which is 737,440 exp tallied up) in black d'hide, in 18.2 hours, not counting levels gained in that 20 hours. In conclusion, its probably better that you get Full void knight and a ranger helmet if you're planning to do this long-term. It seems I have made a good decision : . ^ Refresh for a new signature ^
October 5, 200718 yr Training at the caged Ogres at King Lathas' Training camp, it takes me 2:15 on average to throw off 100 Bronze Knives on rapid. In Black Dragonhide Armour Starting Exp - 5,060,239 Ending - 5,061,939 Experience gained in 2:15 - 1,700 Experience gained per hour (27.9 x 1,700) - 47,441 In Full Void Knight Ranged Starting exp - 5,061,939 Ending - 5,063,815 Experience gained in 2:15 - 1876 Experience gained per hour (27.9 x 1,876) - 52,340 Full void knight ranged gives 4,899 more experience per hour than full black dragonhide does. If it takes 20 hours to attain full VK, you will make up for the lost experience in, assuming you have used that 20 hours to range (which is 948,820 exp tallied up) in black d'hide, in 18 hours, not counting levels gained in that 20 hours. In conclusion, its probably better that you get Full void knight and a ranger helmet if you're planning to do this long-term. It seems I have made a good decision : . Hmm, given the small difference between the 2 (176xp/135s), I don't think its statistically significant enough to derive such a conclusion Still, it's nice to see there are now decent training methods that are relatively cheap (although I'm more interested in broad arrows :P)
October 5, 200718 yr Training at the caged Ogres at King Lathas' Training camp, it takes me 2:15 on average to throw off 100 Bronze Knives on rapid. In Black Dragonhide Armour Starting Exp - 5,060,239 Ending - 5,061,939 Experience gained in 2:15 - 1,700 Experience gained per hour (27.9 x 1,700) - 47,441 In Full Void Knight Ranged Starting exp - 5,061,939 Ending - 5,063,815 Experience gained in 2:15 - 1876 Experience gained per hour (27.9 x 1,876) - 52,340 Full void knight ranged gives 4,899 more experience per hour than full black dragonhide does. If it takes 20 hours to attain full VK, you will make up for the lost experience in, assuming you have used that 20 hours to range (which is 948,820 exp tallied up) in black d'hide, in 18 hours, not counting levels gained in that 20 hours. In conclusion, its probably better that you get Full void knight and a ranger helmet if you're planning to do this long-term. It seems I have made a good decision : . Hmm, given the small difference between the 2 (176xp/135s), I don't think its statistically significant enough to derive such a conclusion Still, it's nice to see there are now decent training methods that are relatively cheap (although I'm more interested in broad arrows :P) I understand your observation. I'll conduct another test, this time of 30 minute length on the same monsters, except using the Dorgeshuun Crossbow and Bone Bolts. ^ Refresh for a new signature ^
October 5, 200718 yr Training at the caged Ogres at King Lathas' Training camp, it takes me 2:15 on average to throw off 100 Bronze Knives on rapid. In Black Dragonhide Armour Starting Exp - 5,060,239 Ending - 5,061,939 Experience gained in 2:15 - 1,700 Experience gained per hour (27.9 x 1,700) - 47,441 In Full Void Knight Ranged Starting exp - 5,061,939 Ending - 5,063,815 Experience gained in 2:15 - 1876 Experience gained per hour (27.9 x 1,876) - 52,340 Full void knight ranged gives 4,899 more experience per hour than full black dragonhide does. If it takes 20 hours to attain full VK, you will make up for the lost experience in, assuming you have used that 20 hours to range (which is 948,820 exp tallied up) in black d'hide, in 18 hours, not counting levels gained in that 20 hours. In conclusion, its probably better that you get Full void knight and a ranger helmet if you're planning to do this long-term. It seems I have made a good decision : . Hmm, given the small difference between the 2 (176xp/135s), I don't think its statistically significant enough to derive such a conclusion Still, it's nice to see there are now decent training methods that are relatively cheap (although I'm more interested in broad arrows :P) void helps typically in higher end equipment it will yield a max hit of 3-6 extra damage. example, crystal bow 91 ranged max was 23-25(not sure) however 99 ranged potted and prayer max was 29 with crystal bow after pc range gear 91 ranged prayer only(maybe potted) i DEFINITELY hit a 31 with it on rapid.
October 5, 200718 yr so how much faster are bronze knives than just bronze arrows, anyone have any figures?
October 5, 200718 yr Well, 100 shots is way too few. Try atleast 1000. I'm sure Full VK Ranged is better; look at a new test I posted in my previous post. :P ^ Refresh for a new signature ^
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