nerdattack16 Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 I'm saying its not thier goal to make F2Pers content. Quite the opposite. They are trying to lure them in to members. Oh, I guess it's working then, just because of the occasional neglect they give us. If they restrict it too much people will think Jagex as money-hungry and instead of becoming members they'll leave. Which is why I think if they leave it exactly how it is now, maybe adding a small few updates that add, not subtract (such as Holiday Events), then F2P will probably never fail. But if they start adding more restrictions, then I believe F2P might crash in is money-making goal. Sig credit goes to ThruItAll. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkVincent Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Baaah. Oh, I guess it's working then, just because of the occasional neglect they give us. If they restrict it too much people will think Jagex as money-hungry and instead of becoming members they'll leave. Which is why I think if they leave it exactly how it is now, maybe adding a small few updates that add, not subtract (such as Holiday Events), then F2P will probably never fail. But if they start adding more restrictions, then I believe F2P might crash in is money-making goal. Yeah. But I think those small updates should be great and not minor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerdattack16 Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 [hide=Quote Stack]Baaah. Oh, I guess it's working then, just because of the occasional neglect they give us. If they restrict it too much people will think Jagex as money-hungry and instead of becoming members they'll leave. Which is why I think if they leave it exactly how it is now, maybe adding a small few updates that add, not subtract (such as Holiday Events), then F2P will probably never fail. But if they start adding more restrictions, then I believe F2P might crash in is money-making goal. Yeah. But I think those small updates should be great and not minor.[/hide] But sadly, I think that F2P getting multiple major updates will never happen. Maybe every other year, something like the Stronghold of Security will occur. Sig credit goes to ThruItAll. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4tty Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 [hide=Quote Stack]Baaah. Oh, I guess it's working then, just because of the occasional neglect they give us. If they restrict it too much people will think Jagex as money-hungry and instead of becoming members they'll leave. Which is why I think if they leave it exactly how it is now, maybe adding a small few updates that add, not subtract (such as Holiday Events), then F2P will probably never fail. But if they start adding more restrictions, then I believe F2P might crash in is money-making goal. Yeah. But I think those small updates should be great and not minor.[/hide] But sadly, I think that F2P getting multiple major updates will never happen. Maybe every other year, something like the Stronghold of Security will occur. how does f2p deserve any updates at all? its p2pers who fill the game developer's pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earth_Poet Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 i do believe that f2p deserve a few things, such as skillcapes...hey...if you got a 99 in something...f2p or not...you earned it. and maybe a little more bank space wouldn't hurt..on the other hand...you get no new updates or extra items that need storing so we're back in a circle. Well,I understand that you're paying for the game.It doesn't mean you deserve more rights than a freeplayer, it just means you pay $5 bucks a month and you love your game. well..i'd have to disagree with you on this point. we are paying for the game and therefore do deserve more. that's what we're paying for. lol. there isn't any problem with being f2p. i completely understand what you're saying about not wanting to commit to this game....especially since this isn't even the main game you play. you have to understand tho...the members are paying for the updates and therefore are entitled to them. you are right that most members wouldn't have bought membership if they didn't start out on f2p. but as far jagex is concerned f2p is their version for window shoppers...hoping you will come inside. when i lost my membership for awhile i had received a message stating that my membership had run out but that i was still able to "play the demo version of the game." that's what it boils down to i suppose. i don't agree with what some players have been posting here. things like why are you complaining you're not paying for the game blahblahblah. i do believe members need to be a little more grateful for the f2p worlds. LOTS of resources get transferred back and forth between members and free players. i'm not talking about bots either. lots of free players mine and sell ores to members just for one example. and if i get a rune item i'm usually heading to f2p to trade it off as it is much more valuable there. same thing with my lobbies. some players do need to stop thumbing their noses and treating them as freeloaders. they are a part of the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex_Ewan_1 Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 1. I think your posting all these threads because you want a high post count! 2. You can pay or not. It is your choice. But p2p is way better than f2p. Also to mention that we pay for the game taht is why we get more. If f2p got the same as p2p the n nobody would go p2p which is what makes up much of jagex's income. Without membership money jagex wouldn't survive and then RS would be gone forever. SO in effect we are keeping f2p alive by being p2p! Goals achieved: lvl 99 Cooking, Fishing and Fletching.Surrey CC and Liverpool FC fan for life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkVincent Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 [hide=Quote Stack]Baaah. Oh, I guess it's working then, just because of the occasional neglect they give us. If they restrict it too much people will think Jagex as money-hungry and instead of becoming members they'll leave. Which is why I think if they leave it exactly how it is now, maybe adding a small few updates that add, not subtract (such as Holiday Events), then F2P will probably never fail. But if they start adding more restrictions, then I believe F2P might crash in is money-making goal. Yeah. But I think those small updates should be great and not minor.[/hide] But sadly, I think that F2P getting multiple major updates will never happen. Maybe every other year, something like the Stronghold of Security will occur. how does f2p deserve any updates at all? its p2pers who fill the game developer's pockets. We do fill Jagex's pockets with those damn ads. You may think it may not make much money, but how many F2Pers play per day? If all (10 milllion) players looked at an ad each and clicked it, it'd make more money than Members, if it adds $1 to them. We (bleep)ing deserve it because without us you P2Pers are (bleep)ed . 1. I think your posting all these threads because you want a high post count! 2. You can pay or not. It is your choice. But p2p is way better than f2p. Also to mention that we pay for the game taht is why we get more. If f2p got the same as p2p the n nobody would go p2p which is what makes up much of jagex's income. Without membership money jagex wouldn't survive and then RS would be gone forever. SO in effect we are keeping f2p alive by being p2p! 1. I don't think so, he has some good arguments. 2. It's not the (bleep)ing pay or not, can't you realise? I can't damn well pay because I'm so far away, far away from Jagex. I've no credit card, and paying monthly is bullcrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death_Hippy Posted October 29, 2007 Author Share Posted October 29, 2007 I have a high post count?._. I don't even know how to look that up.I'm just bored and have nothin else better to do at the moment.And this is the only forum that's easy to rant on without being flamed (as much) as other game forums...try to rant on a Halo3 forum.Try it. :shock: Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?Final Fantasy 7Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert_de_Sable Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Congratulations, death hippy, you've just won the Stupidest Person of the Year award! If you don't want to pay, then don't. Problem solved, what what? [English translation needed] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkVincent Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Congratulations, death hippy, you've just won the Stupidest Person of the Year award! If you don't want to pay, then don't. Problem solved, what what? And you've won the [wagon] of the Year Award for being ignorant that he's ranting about people keep telling him to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4tty Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 [hide=Quote Stack]Baaah. Oh, I guess it's working then, just because of the occasional neglect they give us. If they restrict it too much people will think Jagex as money-hungry and instead of becoming members they'll leave. Which is why I think if they leave it exactly how it is now, maybe adding a small few updates that add, not subtract (such as Holiday Events), then F2P will probably never fail. But if they start adding more restrictions, then I believe F2P might crash in is money-making goal. Yeah. But I think those small updates should be great and not minor.[/hide] But sadly, I think that F2P getting multiple major updates will never happen. Maybe every other year, something like the Stronghold of Security will occur. how does f2p deserve any updates at all? its p2pers who fill the game developer's pockets. We do fill Jagex's pockets with those damn ads. You may think it may not make much money, but how many F2Pers play per day? If all (10 milllion) players looked at an ad each and clicked it, it'd make more money than Members, if it adds $1 to them. We (bleep)ing deserve it because without us you P2Pers are (bleep)ed . 1. I think your posting all these threads because you want a high post count! 2. You can pay or not. It is your choice. But p2p is way better than f2p. Also to mention that we pay for the game taht is why we get more. If f2p got the same as p2p the n nobody would go p2p which is what makes up much of jagex's income. Without membership money jagex wouldn't survive and then RS would be gone forever. SO in effect we are keeping f2p alive by being p2p! 1. I don't think so, he has some good arguments. 2. It's not the (bleep)ing pay or not, can't you realise? I can't damn well pay because I'm so far away, far away from Jagex. I've no credit card, and paying monthly is bullcrap. there isnt 10m players, maybe 10m accounts but only abouut 20% are active maybe? and jagex uses pounds not dollars idiot, they arent an american company. also bots dont see the ads probably, and 50% of f2p players are bots, and hundreds of antiviruses etc block ads... also if jagex makes more money per f2per (off ads) than they do per p2per, WHY is p2p even there? f2p ads just about cover server costs for f2p... p2p subscriptions are what puts the money in the developer's pockets. f2p is basically just an advertisment/demo rofl. also i doubt ANYONE ever clicks the ads... also theres ads on the world pages etc which ALL users of rs see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkVincent Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 [hide=Quote Stack]Baaah. Oh, I guess it's working then, just because of the occasional neglect they give us. If they restrict it too much people will think Jagex as money-hungry and instead of becoming members they'll leave. Which is why I think if they leave it exactly how it is now, maybe adding a small few updates that add, not subtract (such as Holiday Events), then F2P will probably never fail. But if they start adding more restrictions, then I believe F2P might crash in is money-making goal. Yeah. But I think those small updates should be great and not minor.[/hide] But sadly, I think that F2P getting multiple major updates will never happen. Maybe every other year, something like the Stronghold of Security will occur. how does f2p deserve any updates at all? its p2pers who fill the game developer's pockets. We do fill Jagex's pockets with those damn ads. You may think it may not make much money, but how many F2Pers play per day? If all (10 milllion) players looked at an ad each and clicked it, it'd make more money than Members, if it adds $1 to them. We (bleep)ing deserve it because without us you P2Pers are (bleep)ed . 1. I think your posting all these threads because you want a high post count! 2. You can pay or not. It is your choice. But p2p is way better than f2p. Also to mention that we pay for the game taht is why we get more. If f2p got the same as p2p the n nobody would go p2p which is what makes up much of jagex's income. Without membership money jagex wouldn't survive and then RS would be gone forever. SO in effect we are keeping f2p alive by being p2p! 1. I don't think so, he has some good arguments. 2. It's not the (bleep)ing pay or not, can't you realise? I can't damn well pay because I'm so far away, far away from Jagex. I've no credit card, and paying monthly is bullcrap. there isnt 10m players, maybe 10m accounts but only abouut 20% are active maybe? and jagex uses pounds not dollars idiot, they arent an american company. also bots dont see the ads probably, and 50% of f2p players are bots, and hundreds of antiviruses etc block ads... also if jagex makes more money per f2per (off ads) than they do per p2per, WHY is p2p even there? f2p ads just about cover server costs for f2p... p2p subscriptions are what puts the money in the developer's pockets. f2p is basically just an advertisment/demo rofl. also i doubt ANYONE ever clicks the ads... also theres ads on the world pages etc which ALL users of rs see... Could be, I don't damn care about the amount of accounts or players. Don't call me an idiot just because of some minor detail, and besides I was saying an example, not the truth. 50% OF F2P AREN'T BOTS! There's more players than bots. Blocking ads is against Jagex's rules. P2P is there to backup and make more money as they probably could need 15million pounds per months. And I don't think you have to click the ads, as Jagex says to not block the ads, maybe because blocking it would prevent from them getting the money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild_goat_14 Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 All the ads do in F2P is cover the server costs, they barely break even.(With just the F2P servers here) P2P pays for the workers, the updates, the P2P servers, and the money in the pockets of the Gowers. All F2P does is get more P2Pers for more profit. I shall take my flock underneath my own wing, and kick them right the [bleep] out of the tree. If they were meant to fly, they won't break their necks on the concrete.So, what is 1.111... equal to?10/9. Please don't continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m4tty Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 [hide=Quote Stack]Baaah. Oh, I guess it's working then, just because of the occasional neglect they give us. If they restrict it too much people will think Jagex as money-hungry and instead of becoming members they'll leave. Which is why I think if they leave it exactly how it is now, maybe adding a small few updates that add, not subtract (such as Holiday Events), then F2P will probably never fail. But if they start adding more restrictions, then I believe F2P might crash in is money-making goal. Yeah. But I think those small updates should be great and not minor.[/hide] But sadly, I think that F2P getting multiple major updates will never happen. Maybe every other year, something like the Stronghold of Security will occur. how does f2p deserve any updates at all? its p2pers who fill the game developer's pockets. We do fill Jagex's pockets with those damn ads. You may think it may not make much money, but how many F2Pers play per day? If all (10 milllion) players looked at an ad each and clicked it, it'd make more money than Members, if it adds $1 to them. We (bleep)ing deserve it because without us you P2Pers are (bleep)ed . 1. I think your posting all these threads because you want a high post count! 2. You can pay or not. It is your choice. But p2p is way better than f2p. Also to mention that we pay for the game taht is why we get more. If f2p got the same as p2p the n nobody would go p2p which is what makes up much of jagex's income. Without membership money jagex wouldn't survive and then RS would be gone forever. SO in effect we are keeping f2p alive by being p2p! 1. I don't think so, he has some good arguments. 2. It's not the (bleep)ing pay or not, can't you realise? I can't damn well pay because I'm so far away, far away from Jagex. I've no credit card, and paying monthly is bullcrap. there isnt 10m players, maybe 10m accounts but only abouut 20% are active maybe? and jagex uses pounds not dollars idiot, they arent an american company. also bots dont see the ads probably, and 50% of f2p players are bots, and hundreds of antiviruses etc block ads... also if jagex makes more money per f2per (off ads) than they do per p2per, WHY is p2p even there? f2p ads just about cover server costs for f2p... p2p subscriptions are what puts the money in the developer's pockets. f2p is basically just an advertisment/demo rofl. also i doubt ANYONE ever clicks the ads... also theres ads on the world pages etc which ALL users of rs see... Could be, I don't damn care about the amount of accounts or players. Don't call me an idiot just because of some minor detail, and besides I was saying an example, not the truth. 50% OF F2P AREN'T BOTS! There's more players than bots. Blocking ads is against Jagex's rules. P2P is there to backup and make more money as they probably could need 15million pounds per months. And I don't think you have to click the ads, as Jagex says to not block the ads, maybe because blocking it would prevent from them getting the money? they dont get ̢̮â¬Å¡Ãâã1 per ad, and ive NEVER seen any1 get banned for blocking the ads, and tonnes of virus scanners etc DO BLOCK ads, pull the wool from your eyes and realise f2p is just an advertisement/demo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purfishx Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Don't quote the entire thing FFS! Sigs by: Soa | Gold_Tiger10 | Harrinator1 | Guthix121 | robo | Elmo | Thru | Yaff2 Avatars by: Lit0ua | Unoalexi | Gold Tiger . Hello friend, Senajitkaushik was epic, Good luck bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMateo Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 The reason most members want f2p to not get many updates is because... *Gasp* They don't pay for the updates... And don't give the all the [cabbage] about the ads, either, they barely pay for F2p. And as for members coming to f2p just to 'CALL PPL N00BS', those are mainly middle-range players who have low self-esteem... Sorry, but f2pers are incredibly lucky that they actually get to play as much of the game as they do, for free, and for as long as they want. Most games have a 10/20 day free trial, then you have to pay or leave. Just be happy JaGEx hasn't gone public, then F2p would probably be dissolved by the stockholders as 'unprofitable'... then rs would be screwed over :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkVincent Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 they dont get ̢̮â¬Å¡Ãâã1 per ad, and ive NEVER seen any1 get banned for blocking the ads, and tonnes of virus scanners etc DO BLOCK ads, pull the wool from your eyes and realise f2p is just an advertisement/demo. I was making an example, you (bleep)ing ignorant. You never saw anyone 'cuz Jagex doesn't send news about "15,789 accounts banned for blocking ads". Seriously, you'll never convince me of F2P as one damn demo or ad, nobody will, I want you all who tell me that to (bleep) off to a frozen hell, it's the normal game and Members is an expansion pack. And besides, why the (bleep) would someone join up to play an ad while watching ads? Who would do that, Marylin Manson? It's his fault the world is going to disaster, I want him to die with that microphone-knife in his chest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hephaestos8 Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 The reason most members want f2p to not get many updates is because... *Gasp* They don't pay for the updates... And don't give the all the [cabbage] about the ads, either, they barely pay for F2p. And as for members coming to f2p just to 'CALL PPL N00BS', those are mainly middle-range players who have low self-esteem... Sorry, but f2pers are incredibly lucky that they actually get to play as much of the game as they do, for free, and for as long as they want. Most games have a 10/20 day free trial, then you have to pay or leave. Just be happy JaGEx hasn't gone public, then F2p would probably be dissolved by the stockholders as 'unprofitable'... then rs would be screwed over :P +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venedlor Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 i remember when i was f2p i got a lot of help from members when i was in the hole. i still get a little bit of help I sure wish they'd bring back those days. Runescape nowadays is filled with High Level Snobs, Immature Low Levels, Macroers, Scammers and hax0rs. RSC was mostly about fun, now RS2 is going straight to hell and people are losing the main concept of Runescape. Imo, an accomplishment you achieved but didn't have fun with isn't an accomplishment. Nothing new under the sun lad. I remember back in 03 members would go to free to brag and make fun of all the free players and they also wanted JagEx to get rid of F2P. Nothing has changed nor will it. It is the way the game is, members what free to have less and go away, and free players want member stuff. Just the way it is. Venedlor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123Yourgone Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 they dont get ̢̮â¬Å¡Ãâã1 per ad, and ive NEVER seen any1 get banned for blocking the ads, and tonnes of virus scanners etc DO BLOCK ads, pull the wool from your eyes and realise f2p is just an advertisement/demo. I was making an example, you (bleep)ing ignorant. You never saw anyone 'cuz Jagex doesn't send news about "15,789 accounts banned for blocking ads". Seriously, you'll never convince me of F2P as one damn demo or ad, nobody will, I want you all who tell me that to (bleep) off to a frozen hell, it's the normal game and Members is an expansion pack. And besides, why the (bleep) would someone join up to play an ad while watching ads? Who would do that, Marylin Manson? It's his fault the world is going to disaster, I want him to die with that microphone-knife in his chest.You got issues kid, seek help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkVincent Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 they dont get ̢̮â¬Å¡Ãâã1 per ad, and ive NEVER seen any1 get banned for blocking the ads, and tonnes of virus scanners etc DO BLOCK ads, pull the wool from your eyes and realise f2p is just an advertisement/demo. I was making an example, you (bleep)ing ignorant. You never saw anyone 'cuz Jagex doesn't send news about "15,789 accounts banned for blocking ads". Seriously, you'll never convince me of F2P as one damn demo or ad, nobody will, I want you all who tell me that to (bleep) off to a frozen hell, it's the normal game and Members is an expansion pack. And besides, why the (bleep) would someone join up to play an ad while watching ads? Who would do that, Marylin Manson? It's his fault the world is going to disaster, I want him to die with that microphone-knife in his chest.You got issues kid, seek help. Mind your life, please. I'll keep my problems to myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epeeflecher Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Who said they didnt want F2P? :? I'm confused about what your ranting at :P , Only the stupid players care if your F2P or not. It really doesnt matter, it's what you want. And when people pay $5 a month technically they do deserve more than F2P. Just because you play for another online game doesnt mean everyone should be "Equal" (i know thats not the right word, only word i can think of). It's a game run by a bussniess that needs money to pay for the people that work. Cant live off of donations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death_Hippy Posted November 1, 2007 Author Share Posted November 1, 2007 I'm going to edit part of the post, people are getting at that I think I should get the same stuff...I didn't mean that I'm just saying people hate it to dam much when it pays for PART of the game Which Final Fantasy Character Are You?Final Fantasy 7Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123Yourgone Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 they dont get ̢̮â¬Å¡Ãâã1 per ad, and ive NEVER seen any1 get banned for blocking the ads, and tonnes of virus scanners etc DO BLOCK ads, pull the wool from your eyes and realise f2p is just an advertisement/demo. I was making an example, you (bleep)ing ignorant. You never saw anyone 'cuz Jagex doesn't send news about "15,789 accounts banned for blocking ads". Seriously, you'll never convince me of F2P as one damn demo or ad, nobody will, I want you all who tell me that to (bleep) off to a frozen hell, it's the normal game and Members is an expansion pack. And besides, why the (bleep) would someone join up to play an ad while watching ads? Who would do that, Marylin Manson? It's his fault the world is going to disaster, I want him to die with that microphone-knife in his chest.You got issues kid, seek help. Mind your life, please. I'll keep my problems to myself.Nah get help, you emos are a fragile bunch and i hate to read your obituaries when life gets you down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happysniff Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Oh, you know what else is funny? You never stop friggin complaining. You have like 7 rants on the front page, you get pissed off too easily :thumbsup: Members only say to pay when f2pers start complaining about lack of updates. If you don't like it, then go play another friggin game. Oh yeah, Dark Vincent, you're um... an idiot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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