When will the witch hunt end?

[jak722]

jagex should make luring offers on ebay and such sites, and fake buying offers.

 

 

 

and then they should ban their "costumers" or "sellers"

 

 

 

they can also make a lawsuit against gold selling sites

 

 

 

 

 

Im pretty sure theres a law against framing people...

Framing means you make it look like someone did something wrong but they didn't and never intended to. Also, some people are confused about entrapment. Entrapment is when you make someone do something they wouldn't normally do. That wouldn't apply in this case either, because they're already looking to buy/sell gold.

 

 

 

Then what's the point of playing a game when the developers are just leaving bait in order to actively try to ban people?

 

 

 

Jagex might as well sell gold for real while they're at it...

 

 

 

They're gonna benefit more instead of banning players...

[sithlord_man]

Why can't they google "rs2gold"? it would make it easier right?

[Dizzle229]

Here's an idea. STOP RWT UPDATES ENTIRELY!!! There have been RWT's since runescape started. They were there, but we were happy right? We just need to take more responibility for the report abuse button. Some will slip through the cracks, but that is happening now anyway. I have heard the theory that Mechscape is supposed to be a fresh start, completely free of RWT's. Hate to break it to you Jagex, but unless a game is single player, there will always, I repeat, ALWAYS, be RWT's.

 

 

 

Just my thoughts.

[reaper88888]

Suggestion: Make gp untradeable, but also make it so that it is always with you, doesn't take an inv spot, and won't go away if you die. When you use gp to buy something, it goes from your 'gp slot' to theirs, or if it's a store, it just disappears. When you trade with a person, you enter the amount of gp, they see it, and you both know how much they will get. The offers of gp will be limited by the same flexible market-price bounds as the GE.

 

 

 

Don't know if it would work, but you wouldn't be able to make uneven trades, and you can't droptrade gold either.

[highlanders]

The point is not to totally eliminate cheating, that's impossible. But to keep it under control. But I agree that the staking change was really stupid and pointless.

 

 

 

Maybe they did that change not to stop RWT, but just to kill staking, because of another reason.

[Krimm911]

All these autoer/RWT'ers all goes back to the skill cape.

 

 

 

Honestly if Jagex got rid of them (which it never will) some of these problems will go away.

 

 

 

If there was no reward for getting a 99 skill people wouldn't care as much, and the price of raw materials would go down. This would make autoers/RWT'ers have a much harder time making money or being an effective RW business.

[Artificial_Doom_Flavor]

All these autoer/RWT'ers all goes back to the skill cape.

 

 

 

Honestly if Jagex got rid of them (which it never will) some of these problems will go away.

 

 

 

If there was no reward for getting a 99 skill people wouldn't care as much, and the price of raw materials would go down. This would make autoers/RWT'ers have a much harder time making money or being an effective RW business.

 

 

 

This argument is bad to the point of amusement

[monkeyboo2]

jagex should make luring offers on ebay and such sites, and fake buying offers.

 

 

 

and then they should ban their "costumers" or "sellers"

 

 

 

they can also make a lawsuit against gold selling sites

 

+1, but is it possible to make a lawsuit against such sites? as most em are made in internet cafe's i suppose...

 

 

 

Yes they can, although its incredinbly hard to force the full prosecution and find the guy in the first place.

 

They have closed down many sites, but i know a story of a glitching site they tried to close. THey had a lawsuit up against a certain glitching site, and fined the owner of the site over ÃÆââ¬Å¡Ãâã1,000,000... UNfortunately, with sites, aslong as you play naive and pretend that it wasn't the purpose of the site to ruin the game, you can change the site and get away with it. THis particular site was ironically changed to a site about how much you love ponies, unless you get over 1000 posts where you can post in the darker regions of the site.

 

 

 

Its a menace how slippery the laws on internet crime can be, especially locating the true workers/owners of the site.

[qeltar]

As much as I oppose cheating, we need to realize that the "laws" against RWT and so forth only apply to Jagex's little pocket world. It's not illegal anywhere in the world that I know of to choose to log into a game and play with an autoing program, or to sell virtual money for real money. Jagex can try to intimidate these sites into shutting down by, for example, threatening to make them waste a lot of money on lawyers, but there's nothing practical they can do.

 

 

 

Add to that the fact that most of them are in overseas countries anyway.

[psycho1701]

Witch hunt??? It's hardly a witch hunt. Witch hunting was all about killing people who were believed to be something that doesnt' exist...

Wiches existed. Many were accused of being one who weren't just because they were weird or whatever. But Wiches DID and may still DO exist.

[darkblade986]

Not sure if this was mentioned, but here's something I just realized.

 

 

 

 

 

Like how the duel arena is basing its 3k stake limit on the Grand Exchange, Jagex could use it to track unbalanced trades even easier. The simple thing they could do is the following:

 

 

 

Set up the game so that all trades will be recorded, regardless of amounts transferred. Have a staff member look down through a list of sales: This list would appear similar to below-

 

 

 

(Player 1's Offer in GP) - (Player 2's Offer in GP) : (Difference)

 

 

 

So for example, if Iron Ore was 90gp in the Exchange, and Coal was 200, then a trade of 10 Iron Ore for 20 Coal could appear as the following

 

 

 

900gp - 2000gp : 1100gp

 

 

 

The reason behind the color is because it can be a scanning method to find imbalanced trades quickly. In the example I gave, the difference was all of 1100gp, which isn't too terribly much. However, if someone were to have purchased around 5m GP, then the trade would look like this.

 

 

 

5,000,000gp - 0gp : 5,000,000gp

 

 

 

Jagex could then open a log of this trade, identify whether it was either a glitch in the system or an indication of real world trading, and investigate the accounts from there.

 

 

 

 

 

While yes, the actual act of the trade will still occur, it would give Jagex the chance to investigate and ban those accounts before the purchase can make its way into the economy.

[Atroxide]

What jagex is doing, is limiting how you can do it. They know for a fact that they can't stop it from changing things.

 

 

 

However now there is only 2-3 ways to transfer cash for RWT. Now they can do alot more to stop it.

 

 

 

For instance, since the Grand Exchange update, I have yet to trade 1 time, so from the decrease in legit trades, they can now be able to track unlegit trades better.

 

 

 

Also from the decrease in trades, they can now create a log of all the uneven trades. (Because there is less trades and because of the item prices from GE).

 

 

 

I approve of their updates 100%.