Dire_Wolf Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 This is something very important for everyone who does God wars so show support plz. Go to RSOF and hers code: 24-25-922-54886344 The thread posted there: Ok, as we all know. If we die with Gravestones inside boss room, it will be a chaotic. Not only to ourself, but to your friends who is with you killing bosses. Let's demonstrate this through a example: You die, your killing one of god wars boss inside boss room with a friend of yours. With your friend, your 2 man team. Now as you die gravestone comes up. Best gravestone stands 4 min before you need to repair it or bless it. But how easy is it to bless/repair a gravestone inside a boss room? Let's take bandos boss as example... He hits 40+ (along with his minions) all the time if your alone in room with him (After you/friend die). So i got a question: How in the world do you get time to help your friends gravestone to not crumble inside the boss room getting hit by bandos and his minios at same time? It is very hard to do that, and in attempt i am sure that most of us would die, unless we got alot sharks. But what if we dont.. Anyhow to bless=give 14 min more before the gravestone crumbles, it cost 13 pray points. And we all know, inside boss room we need all prayer we can get. Even if we would survive down there, it would take our friend over 25 minutes to get there. And imagen this: You inside boss room alone for 25min....THAT DON'T WORK! So my suggestion to this issue is this: When we die inside God wars Boss rooms, our gravestones ends up outside boss room.. That way, if a team has a player who dies. All the team members can go out and bless the gravestone, making it easy for them (Afterall, with gravestone it ruins boss hunts if someone dies as you must not let the gravestone crumble to help your friend.) On top of it, if gravestone ends up at the God strongholds instead the boss room it will make it better for the player who died to come fast and get his items back. That way he won't need to get 40 KC to get into boss room. Please jagex, do something with this. I seriously don't think that gravestones in god wars boss room is a good idea. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanweb Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Where did you get this 14 minute, 13 pray points thing from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 Where did you get this 14 minute, 13 pray points thing from? That's what happend when i blessed gravestone to someone. Took 13 pray points, and it says " the gravestone will be there for 14 min more" It diden't say exactly like that, but it did say that it would stand there for 14min more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanweb Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 That's what happend when i blessed gravestone to someone. Took 13 pray points, and it says " the gravestone will be there for 14 min more" It diden't say exactly like that, but it did say that it would stand there for 14min more. Well that isn't what grave stones are supposed to do... My bet is that you blessed a grave that had already been there for 46 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qeltar Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 I'm sure I'll get flamed for this but... I 100% agree that the matter of sharing loot from boss drops is a problem that Jagex needs to fix. I wrote about it the day of the update last week, and Jagex has said they are going to deal with it. Fine. But all the whining about how "difficult" the gravestones make things for boss hunters -- that I do not get. For years people have been complaining that bosses were too easy.. we were treated to videos of players beating Jad using rubber chickens and so forth. Now, some of the changes make bosses a little harder and everyone freaks out? If you go with a team you have a full hour to go back and get ALL of your stuff if you die. That's a hell of a lot better than we had it a year ago when dying at a boss. So why all the complaining? Qeltar, aka Charles KozierokWebmaster, RuneScoop - Premium RuneScape Information for Expert Players -- Now Free!Featuring the Ultimate Guide to Dungeoneering -- everything you need to know to get the most of the new skill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 I'm sure I'll get flamed for this but... I 100% agree that the matter of sharing loot from boss drops is a problem that Jagex needs to fix. I wrote about it the day of the update last week, and Jagex has said they are going to deal with it. Fine. But all the whining about how "difficult" the gravestones make things for boss hunters -- that I do not get. For years people have been complaining that bosses were too easy.. we were treated to videos of players beating Jad using rubber chickens and so forth. Now, some of the changes make bosses a little harder and everyone freaks out? If you go with a team you have a full hour to go back and get ALL of your stuff if you die. That's a hell of a lot better than we had it a year ago when dying at a boss. So why all the complaining? We got 1 hour to go get stuff back? How, please let tell me... From what ive got, the gravestone...best one holds only for 4 min. this is also nto a complaint, just something i hope jagex consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkjab Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 I'm sure I'll get flamed for this but... I 100% agree that the matter of sharing loot from boss drops is a problem that Jagex needs to fix. I wrote about it the day of the update last week, and Jagex has said they are going to deal with it. Fine. But all the whining about how "difficult" the gravestones make things for boss hunters -- that I do not get. For years people have been complaining that bosses were too easy.. we were treated to videos of players beating Jad using rubber chickens and so forth. Now, some of the changes make bosses a little harder and everyone freaks out? If you go with a team you have a full hour to go back and get ALL of your stuff if you die. That's a hell of a lot better than we had it a year ago when dying at a boss. So why all the complaining? We got 1 hour to go get stuff back? How, please let tell me... From what ive got, the gravestone...best one holds only for 4 min. this is also nto a complaint, just something i hope jagex consider. When you die, the gravestone last for 5 mins. When a friend blesses it, it can last up to an hour. And I personally believe that if you die at the GWD you should just accept it, you should be thankful you even have a slight oppurtunity of getting your stuff back. It's a dangerous area, and it should stay that way. Having gravestones that can last almost an hour protecting your stuff just takes away from the difficulty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 Let me tell you something. My team is always 4-6, and we have had 3 deaths before updates. When that happend everyone helped eachother out, we got eachother items. Gave back. Meaning we had acess to get our items back, now with gravestones. WE CANT! So i suggest jagex fixes that! Cause id be oki without the gravestones. I know you can keep the gravestones up at a hour with bless. But doing that while killing the boss DONT WORK. So id appriate that Jagex made it so you got your gravestone outside boss room. That way we woulden't struggle with the boss and his minions. Cause lets face it, if someone dies at bandos boss room, your trip is basically ruined. All things are focused to keep the gravestone up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUMINATOR17 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 There are many problems with your story here. The first and main one being that this DOES NOT make it harder for a group of monster hunters. Infact, this makes it even easier, now as certain monsters one can bring all of their best gear to and solo it, say the KBD for example. One can now take furies and fire capes and all the like out there and if somehow they die they will have up to 5 minutes, depending on the grave, to make it back out there. I really fail to see how this makes things harder. The only hard part is going back into the respective boss room you died in after getting your 40 kill count back and then getting your items back. As it will be like if you were doing a solo trip, only your just their for your gear. I'm sure I'll get flamed for this but... I 100% agree that the matter of sharing loot from boss drops is a problem that Jagex needs to fix. I wrote about it the day of the update last week, and Jagex has said they are going to deal with it. Fine. But all the whining about how "difficult" the gravestones make things for boss hunters -- that I do not get. For years people have been complaining that bosses were too easy.. we were treated to videos of players beating Jad using rubber chickens and so forth. Now, some of the changes make bosses a little harder and everyone freaks out? If you go with a team you have a full hour to go back and get ALL of your stuff if you die. That's a hell of a lot better than we had it a year ago when dying at a boss. So why all the complaining? We got 1 hour to go get stuff back? How, please let tell me... From what ive got, the gravestone...best one holds only for 4 min. this is also nto a complaint, just something i hope jagex consider. Are you Kidding me???? Do you not just recall what you were discussing with jordan about how you had to spend 13 prayer points and it said the grave would only be there for another 14 minutes. How on earth does that mean the best gravestone only holds for 4 minutes? CLICK - 770th to 99 SLAYER 2/4/08 - 204th to 99 Summoning 7/1/08 CLICK[Hide=List of Drops That I haven't updated in Years but want to keep in my Sig anyways...]VISAGE DROP - 12/06/073 Duo Sara Hilts, 3 Duo Arma Hilts, 2 Trio Arma Hilts.Dark Bows: (11) Dragon Boots: (50!)Whip Drops: (42!!!) Dragon Drops: (90+!!!!!) 2 D CHAINS!, 3 D Axe, 8 D meds, 7 left halfs, 7 D legs, 6 skirts, 8 Spears[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordanweb Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Let me tell you something. My team is always 4-6, and we have had 3 deaths before updates. When that happend everyone helped eachother out, we got eachother items. Gave back. Dying is your own fault though, don't like it? Don't die, simple as that. I'd be in full support of jagex removing gravestones altogether in GWD and i a go there a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masterd99 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 From what I know, you don't need to wait 5 minutes to bless the gravestone. You can bless it then run out of the boss room. That gives your friend an hour to get back into there, grab his/her stuff, and quickly leave. Quest Cape - 10/18/2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 From what I know, you don't need to wait 5 minutes to bless the gravestone. You can bless it then run out of the boss room. That gives your friend an hour to get back into there, grab his/her stuff, and quickly leave. Well answared. It seems alot of ya misunderstood what i said. But one answar that i liked is masterd's. Good job dude. :-k Dying is your own fault though, don't like it? Don't die, simple as that. I'd be in full support of jagex removing gravestones altogether in GWD and i a go there a lot. No offence but that's just bs! Ive done serveal trips, ive died only once. And i am not saying i cant accept death. But i got my friends, friends who i trust and they trust me. Before gravestone, no trips would be ruined. Now...if you look at it, if someone dies at our trip we must cancell it even if we just started. Nice.....*sarcasm* Don't give me the lecture about death, unlike lots of losers on runescape. Ive risked items to get good friends i can trust and count on. We don't scam eachother, like most do... I just dislike that if someone dies at a trip we must cancell the trip. But guess you guys dont see it from my view. No problem, your loss...eventually you'll see that this can become a problem. Not nesscarily a big one. Thanks for answars though. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pryomancer Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 It's like that because God Wars is supposed to be insanely hard, with every chance of you losing items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRUMINATOR17 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 From what I know, you don't need to wait 5 minutes to bless the gravestone. You can bless it then run out of the boss room. That gives your friend an hour to get back into there, grab his/her stuff, and quickly leave. Well answared. It seems alot of ya misunderstood what i said. But one answar that i liked is masterd's. Good job dude. :-k Perhaps you should read the other ones that are longer then a few sentences then? You might find out that others have also been saying the same kind of things. :roll: CLICK - 770th to 99 SLAYER 2/4/08 - 204th to 99 Summoning 7/1/08 CLICK[Hide=List of Drops That I haven't updated in Years but want to keep in my Sig anyways...]VISAGE DROP - 12/06/073 Duo Sara Hilts, 3 Duo Arma Hilts, 2 Trio Arma Hilts.Dark Bows: (11) Dragon Boots: (50!)Whip Drops: (42!!!) Dragon Drops: (90+!!!!!) 2 D CHAINS!, 3 D Axe, 8 D meds, 7 left halfs, 7 D legs, 6 skirts, 8 Spears[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samittaja Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 I was in a team of 5 at bandos and a friend of mine died WITH the new update. I managed to bless his grave while fighting the bandos boss without dying and he managed to get his killcount up to 40 and loot his stuff EASILY (you get 60mins if someone blesses it). The way I see it, it's supposed to be hard and risky to fight these monsters, it's a risk you take when you step into the chamber. If you don't like it, go kill goblins or something that's considered safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drgnslyer_15 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 i can't bless gravestones not like i'd want to. Hey if you die thats your own fault. If i know the person i take what i can and return it. RSN: drgnslyer15 15 skills 90+ - 10 skills 99 - 200m+ total exp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 Perhaps you should read the other ones that are longer then a few sentences then? You might find out that others have also been saying the same kind of things. :roll: I make these threads to help my team find solutions to every problems the updates might made for us. The solution to deal with death with gravestones, thats what masterd answared. His solution was good... I don't know with you guys, but it's so stupid that people say "its supposed to be like that". I had a safety if i died, my friends... With gravestone update, now its gone. So excuse me for oppinion, but i had it better without gravestones. 500k for a 4 min, shud have been 10 min. (In other games i played it was there for 1 hour on floor) Close thread please. P.S: If there is deaths among any of our teams in god wars, you'll experience that you need to cancell whole trip, just when ya got there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBC3 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 I'm sure I'll get flamed for this but... I 100% agree that the matter of sharing loot from boss drops is a problem that Jagex needs to fix. I wrote about it the day of the update last week, and Jagex has said they are going to deal with it. Fine. But all the whining about how "difficult" the gravestones make things for boss hunters -- that I do not get. For years people have been complaining that bosses were too easy.. we were treated to videos of players beating Jad using rubber chickens and so forth. Now, some of the changes make bosses a little harder and everyone freaks out? If you go with a team you have a full hour to go back and get ALL of your stuff if you die. That's a hell of a lot better than we had it a year ago when dying at a boss. So why all the complaining? at least your the only one making sense on this thread, ill never flame you. i beat jad with 72 ranged :roll: jad is no challange and gwd is all we have left, i hope jagex keeps the gravestones inside its the only risk thing we have left. if they put it outside tons of people will start going to gwd, INCLUDING myself, id bring all kinds of armor since there wont be any risk, and ill go crash your party and what not. infact i hope they put it outside so that gs price drops and finally everyone can get one for 10mil, good idea, i support you, and no im not being sarcastic, i support. 4000000657th to 99 cookin555555406th to 99 flethcin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 CAN YOU STOP MIXING OTHER BOSSES IN THIS THREAD. THIS WAS ONLY FOR GWD BOSSES! GEEZ! READ THE BLOODY TITLE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBC3 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 CAN YOU STOP MIXING OTHER BOSSES IN THIS THREAD. THIS WAS ONLY FOR GWD BOSSES! GEEZ! READ THE BLOODY TITLE. calm down incase you have high blood pressure :wink: 4000000657th to 99 cookin555555406th to 99 flethcin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 When i go god wars, i got good friends. We all wear verac. If death we pick stuff up and return it. Now with the gravestones it's a bit annoying. Im a bit angry as most posters on this thread thinks i don't realize what GWD should be like, that yo ucan die and that you shoulden't bring good items. I brought verac- my risk ....whats your risk huh? I took a risk, you diden't Now, as gravestones come it's more troublesome to me. I dislike it, as i had much better without. My friends and i did well always, there was rarely deaths. And now people tell me "GWD is supposed to be hard", "If it was easy i would bring good stuff there" and other lame comments. Tell me , do ya got good friends you trust on runescape? From my view you don't, as you say " Before we diden't have chance to get our items back". This thread is about GWD bosses, don't mix Jad, KQ, KBD in this thread. We had a chance, our friends... As i said, it seems you guys diden't have good ones. Cause you thought or give me the impression that you diden't have the "chance" to get your items back safely. I did : But now i still do, with a troublesome twist that will lead to us cancelling the trip if death occured. -.- That was all, ive had it posting so much on this thread lol. :XD: Again, thanks for your comments (lots bad, but lots good too). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primadog Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 I dont' GW much, so I don't have a say in the topic, but I'll like to provide a bit of background on the new graveyard system: http://www.runescape.com/kbase/viewarti ... _runescape When you die and drop items (except in the instances mentioned above), a gravestone will appear at the spot you died, guarding your possessions and acting as a warning to others. This gravestone will remain in place for between two and five minutes (depending on your gravestone - see below). As your time runs out, your gravestone will begin to crumble. A friendly player can fix up your gravestone by right-clicking and selecting 'Repair'. They need to have a Prayer level of 2, and this will hold your gravestone in place for another five minutes at a cost of about 5 Prayer points. If the player repairing your gravestone has less than 5 Prayer points, it will not remain as long. Alternatively, a player may choose to 'Bless' your gravestone, imbuing it with the strength of their faith to keep it in place for up to an hour. This requires a Prayer level of 70 and will cost the player blessing it as many Prayer points as it requires. This will never take their Prayer points below 10 (just in case they need them!). Unless I am mistaken, if you use "bless" instead of "repair," It automatically uses all the prayer (while leaving you 10 prayer) needed to extend the gravestone's time to 1hr. Example your friend's grave has been standing for 10 minutes You have 40/70 prayer left You "bless" your friend's grave You lose 30 prayer points Your friend's grave will now last total of 40 minutes You have 10/70 prayer left All I learned in life, I learned on Tip.it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jessy87 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 wow, this thread is pretty crazy. first of all, it takes me down to i think 55 prayer points to bless an angel of death for an hour, or at least you only go DOWN to 10 prayer points max. in the GWD the altar is rite their provided your time is up, since it lets you pray every 10mins, the 5min angel of death thing could be done without prayer pots if timed "coincidentally" 1 hour should be long enough to loot your stuff back your self. and didnt you make a rant saying you quit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qeltar Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 When i go god wars, i got good friends. We all wear verac. If death we pick stuff up and return it. Now with the gravestones it's a bit annoying. Good! Look, I'm not trying to offend you, but it SHOULD be annoying when you DIE. Because if it isn't, the dungeon is too easy. Simple solution: don't die. Qeltar, aka Charles KozierokWebmaster, RuneScoop - Premium RuneScape Information for Expert Players -- Now Free!Featuring the Ultimate Guide to Dungeoneering -- everything you need to know to get the most of the new skill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dire_Wolf Posted December 17, 2007 Author Share Posted December 17, 2007 Qelt, your not annoying me. Your one of best forum users on tip.it. But i find it a bit ...how to say it :?: Crappy, that people cant see that there is other ways to achieve your items back. But to be honest, if some of the posters who posted bad comments diden't frustrate me i would have seen so much earlier this: When someone died before update = We teled. In other words= same as we will do at gravestone too. So im satisfied. Btw my team is great :P We all trust eachother, and every single of our member has agreed to this: "If someone steals anything no matter worth, we will just kick em and that's it" :thumbsup: Lol funny thing, we do GWD without lootshare nowdays. Reason: Lootshare worlds always taken. :-s : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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