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[Lenin64]

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Wow, I just got this on stumble upon. :lol:

 

 

 

So what's the side effect to "Atomic Punch"? Obviously, you can't just run around drinking it and never ever die. Do you slow down?

[ryno258]

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Wow, I just got this on stumble upon. :lol:

 

 

 

So what's the side effect to "Atomic Punch"? Obviously, you can't just run around drinking it and never ever die. Do you slow down?

 

 

 

After the beneficial effects of the radiation wear off,drinkers have reported experiencing feelings of lethargy that can last several seconds

 

 

 

I'm guessing that 1 out of every ten drinks will make you slow down to the speed of a heavy for a few seconds after the high :?

[Dracion1]

Looks quite useful, in fairness I almost never use the pistol. :roll:

 

 

 

Also, what map is that? Doesn't look like any of the maps I've ever seen, possibly another new one?

[jjrox32]

Looks quite useful, in fairness I almost never use the pistol. :roll:

 

 

 

Also, what map is that? Doesn't look like any of the maps I've ever seen, possibly another new one?

 

 

 

It looks like a double-pl map to me. And if you watch really good scouts (CEVO-P level), then you realize that they rarely end up using their pistol.

 

 

 

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Wow, I just got this on stumble upon. :lol:

 

 

 

So what's the side effect to "Atomic Punch"? Obviously, you can't just run around drinking it and never ever die. Do you slow down?

 

 

 

After the beneficial effects of the radiation wear off,drinkers have reported experiencing feelings of lethargy that can last several seconds

 

 

 

I'm guessing that 1 out of every ten drinks will make you slow down to the speed of a heavy for a few seconds after the high :?

 

 

 

I'm guessing that every drink makes you slow down after the high. If it didn't this would be brutally overpowered in the right hands. You'd essentially be giving the scout a speed boost which doubles as a mini-uber whenever he wants with a side affect only happening 10% of the time?

 

 

 

Not really liking this update so far. It's just giving the scout a bunch of weapons that will make bad people do well with him :/

[Nadril]

So you're trying to say that a good player isn't going to be able to do better with these?

 

 

 

You realize that all of the updates so far have been made to put life into the lesser played classes right. Valve wanted to balance the scout so he wouldn't be as hard to get into but still would have a lot of strategy. Complaining that more people will play scout is kind of meh.

[Lenin64]

So you're trying to say that a good player isn't going to be able to do better with these?

 

 

 

You realize that all of the updates so far have been made to put life into the lesser played classes right. Valve wanted to balance the scout so he wouldn't be as hard to get into but still would have a lot of strategy. Complaining that more people will play scout is kind of meh.

 

Pyro is a lesser played class?

 

 

 

All of the updates have made sucky people better, right? Giving a pyro a long range gun and 100% crit weapon, 2 actually. It's not exactly hard to get behind someone, and the only thing sacrificed is an ability everyone's played without. And an uber-charging bonesaw? More people I've seen use that than the needlegun, which also now recharges health. So I don't know if you're crusading against just the Scout stuff, which is silly, or the updates as a whole because bad players can do better, which is still silly.

 

 

 

Although scouts go get very annoying, and if a bunch of people play Scout at once....glad I don't have the PC version now :P

[Nadril]

Pyro was Lenin. When TF2 came out not many people played them due to the difficulty of the class.

 

 

 

And not sure if you were talking to me, but I'm not crusading anything. I'm looking forward to the update. :)

[Lenin64]

Nah, I was talking to jjrox. I thought you quoted him. But really? I see pyros six ways till Sunday on 360, I thought it was the same all throughout.

[Dracion1]

http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/egypt.htm

 

 

 

CP_Egpyt and CP_Fastlane update. Egypt looks a bit odd to me tbh, though hopefully it'll be interesting when it comes to SG placement.

[Nadril]

http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/egypt.htm

 

 

 

CP_Egpyt and CP_Fastlane update. Egypt looks a bit odd to me tbh, though hopefully it'll be interesting when it comes to SG placement.

 

 

 

I've played CP_Egypt before and it's a fun map. Fairly odd, but still good.

 

 

 

(remember these are community maps, not entirely new ones. I've played the arena_watchtower as well).

 

 

 

 

 

Classes with the ability to ascend rapidly (Soldiers, Demomen, and Scouts using the new scattergun unlockable )

 

 

 

I like how they are hinting at the new scattergun. Makes me think it might give scouts the option to do a "rocket jump" kind of thing... =P~

 

 

 

 

 

Nah, I was talking to jjrox. I thought you quoted him. But really? I see pyros six ways till Sunday on 360, I thought it was the same all throughout.

 

 

 

 

 

 

If I remember right pyros were nerfed pretty close after release, and I don't think that 360 gets any of the patches to the game. So they were pretty widely played (OP really) and then got brought down and hardly anyone played them.

 

 

 

If I can remember right, that is. Of course I remember in TFC when no one would ever want to play a pyro.

[jjrox32]

So you're trying to say that a good player isn't going to be able to do better with these?

 

 

 

You realize that all of the updates so far have been made to put life into the lesser played classes right. Valve wanted to balance the scout so he wouldn't be as hard to get into but still would have a lot of strategy. Complaining that more people will play scout is kind of meh.

 

 

 

Honestly the truly good scouts won't be able to use this since I have a feeling it will be banned from scrims and competitive matches. Most people here don't already realize that the scout is probably the most powerful all around class in the right hands, and giving him 5 seconds of invincibility isn't helping that. A good scout will be able to run in, pop the medic twice for the kill, and run out while drinking BONK to make him invulnerable to bullets.

 

 

 

I just really hope that this stuff doesn't turn the skill gap of the scout into the skill gap of the pyro.

[Nadril]

So you're trying to say that a good player isn't going to be able to do better with these?

 

 

 

You realize that all of the updates so far have been made to put life into the lesser played classes right. Valve wanted to balance the scout so he wouldn't be as hard to get into but still would have a lot of strategy. Complaining that more people will play scout is kind of meh.

 

 

 

Honestly the truly good scouts won't be able to use this since I have a feeling it will be banned from scrims and competitive matches. Most people here don't already realize that the scout is probably the most powerful all around class in the right hands, and giving him 5 seconds of invincibility isn't helping that. A good scout will be able to run in, pop the medic twice for the kill, and run out while drinking BONK to make him invulnerable to bullets.

 

 

 

I just really hope that this stuff doesn't turn the skill gap of the scout into the skill gap of the pyro.

 

 

 

The Bonk drink is going to slow the scout after using it. I'm not sure why people would ban these from competitive play.

[jjrox32]

So you're trying to say that a good player isn't going to be able to do better with these?

 

 

 

You realize that all of the updates so far have been made to put life into the lesser played classes right. Valve wanted to balance the scout so he wouldn't be as hard to get into but still would have a lot of strategy. Complaining that more people will play scout is kind of meh.

 

 

 

Honestly the truly good scouts won't be able to use this since I have a feeling it will be banned from scrims and competitive matches. Most people here don't already realize that the scout is probably the most powerful all around class in the right hands, and giving him 5 seconds of invincibility isn't helping that. A good scout will be able to run in, pop the medic twice for the kill, and run out while drinking BONK to make him invulnerable to bullets.

 

 

 

I just really hope that this stuff doesn't turn the skill gap of the scout into the skill gap of the pyro.

 

 

 

The Bonk drink is going to slow the scout after using it. I'm not sure why people would ban these from competitive play.

 

 

 

Lets see.

 

 

 

Scout finds soldier/medic combo. Scout pops BONK, caps the medic and runs back to safety before the drink wears off.

[Nadril]

That still takes strategy to do though. I mean some scrub scout is not going to be able to hit the medic in time before the soldier kills him. However the bad scout might be able to get away with popping the drink mid fight, so he can at least get the medic (and probably end up dying to the soldier) while the good scout kills the medic and gets away.

 

 

 

 

 

At least wait for it to get on the servers before making too much of an opinion. We don't even know how long it (and the debuff) lasts.

[Lenin64]

I just had my best ever Scout game. 15 points total, 14 kills. Then later I topped my record dominations (now 3) and defenses (now 4). Defensive scout on 2fort is reallllly easy.

[Nadril]

http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate ... nature.htm

 

 

 

Finally my F5ing showed something. A knockback + a rocket jump, awesome.

[Toki_Hakurei]

http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/force-a-nature.htm

 

 

 

Finally my F5ing showed something. A knockback + a rocket jump, awesome.

 

I'm already laughing at the title. :lol:

[Riku3220]

I just had my best ever Scout game. 15 points total, 14 kills. Then later I topped my record dominations (now 3) and defenses (now 4). Defensive scout on 2fort is reallllly easy.

 

Yeah on the 360 version :P

 

 

 

Did anyone else do that poll at the bottom of the page? I voted for The Sandman to be unlocked first but it looks like the Force-A-Nature is going to be first...

[Lenin64]

I just had my best ever Scout game. 15 points total, 14 kills. Then later I topped my record dominations (now 3) and defenses (now 4). Defensive scout on 2fort is reallllly easy.

 

Yeah on the 360 version :P

 

 

 

Did anyone else do that poll at the bottom of the page? I voted for The Sandman to be unlocked first but it looks like the Force-A-Nature is going to be first...

 

I voted Bonk!. Just because.

 

 

 

And shut up.

[Jaziek]

- noob1 fell to a clumsy painful death

 

- noob2 fell to a clumsy painful death

 

- noob3 fell to a clumsy painful death

 

 

 

:D force-a-nature is gonna be hilarity.

[jjrox32]

Yeah, but you have to have good aim to use it *cough* dizzle *cough* :P

[AndyPandy]

http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/egypt.htm

 

 

 

CP_Egpyt and CP_Fastlane update. Egypt looks a bit odd to me tbh, though hopefully it'll be interesting when it comes to SG placement.

 

 

 

I've played CP_Egypt before and it's a fun map. Fairly odd, but still good.

 

 

 

(remember these are community maps, not entirely new ones. I've played the arena_watchtower as well).

 

 

 

 

 

Classes with the ability to ascend rapidly (Soldiers, Demomen, and Scouts using the new scattergun unlockable )

 

 

 

I like how they are hinting at the new scattergun. Makes me think it might give scouts the option to do a "rocket jump" kind of thing... =P~

 

 

 

 

 

Nah, I was talking to jjrox. I thought you quoted him. But really? I see pyros six ways till Sunday on 360, I thought it was the same all throughout.

 

 

 

 

 

 

If I remember right pyros were nerfed pretty close after release, and I don't think that 360 gets any of the patches to the game. So they were pretty widely played (OP really) and then got brought down and hardly anyone played them.

 

 

 

If I can remember right, that is. Of course I remember in TFC when no one would ever want to play a pyro.

 

 

 

Looking at the achievement list for scout, it looks like the scattergun has a knockback effect, so possibly firing at the ground pushes you up?

 

 

 

EDIT: Just saw the update =O Rocket jump effect? Awesome!

[Dracion1]

Looks like a good update : . I'm guessing the new knockback will be a bit like the compression blast when it comes to forcing back other players.

 

 

 

I also voted for Bonk, as I said it'll be so much more useful than the pistol.

[Brad25891]

Eugh, I hate the way valve hypes things up :( Makes me want the update to come sooner and it feels as if it takes so much longer xD

 

I do think that the Team Fortress dev/community team have got it right though. The blog is really awesome.

[Orpheus]

 

 

 

That's really what the new update is.