TriangleNub Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Is there any good Crush weapon i can use at Waterfiends that doesn't level my Strength? I'm getting attack to 99 and I plan to keep my Str+Def at 80. I'm using slayer and I plan on not blocking them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green9090 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I believe your only two serious options here are the Barrelchest anchor and Verac's flail. Join "DG Sweepers" Clan Chat for Dungeoneering Floors | Accepting all tipiters who are Willing to Learn | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 I believe your only two serious options here are the Barrelchest anchor and Verac's flail. Which really are bad weapons? Whats wrong with training controlled? [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriangleNub Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share Posted July 24, 2008 And are they even comparible to Z Spear and SS for example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craven_range Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Everyone is serioiusly over rating weapons with crush on waterfiends. Seriously. How many people do you see using STAB on a dragon, even though that is their weakness. Waterfiend isn't the only monster in the game with a weakness you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixFootOne Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Everyone is serioiusly over rating weapons with crush on waterfiends. Seriously. How many people do you see using STAB on a dragon, even though that is their weakness. Waterfiend isn't the only monster in the game with a weakness you know. Waterfiends are different, they have a very very high def to all other attacks. Have you ever even fought one? Anyway back on topic, i suggest the flail, i dont know of any other that have crush attacks that dont train str. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green9090 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Everyone is serioiusly over rating weapons with crush on waterfiends. Seriously. How many people do you see using STAB on a dragon, even though that is their weakness. Waterfiend isn't the only monster in the game with a weakness you know. Have you ever actually tried whipping a waterfiend? It's pretty freaking miserable. Join "DG Sweepers" Clan Chat for Dungeoneering Floors | Accepting all tipiters who are Willing to Learn | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriangleNub Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share Posted July 24, 2008 Don't get in a flame fight nao. But is a Flail/Anchor even comparable to a Ss/Zs? If it isn't then I may just use my ss, since it is only half the experience... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asianboy7o7 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 wait cant you train atk with ss? huge difference in slashing a waterfiend and crushing one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green9090 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 An SS is going to train purely strength. A Z spear can train controlled. Anchor and flail aren't THAT much worse... kind of like d scim vs whip, maybe a little worse. Join "DG Sweepers" Clan Chat for Dungeoneering Floors | Accepting all tipiters who are Willing to Learn | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wioneo Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Anchors are freaking horrible...am I then only one that thinks that? :shock: I took one along on my first trip(mainly as a spec weapon but I kept using it for a bit) and it was pathetically ineffective. A d mace would be a much much better option. In retrospect that WAS my first trip and maybe I did not have the anchor on a crush setting...does it have any others? Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield + DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 SeercullDragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,HalberdGWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh + Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core + Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow [spoiler=Capes]Quest Cape Aquired 12-7-07 ~ Level 93 + + + Completionist Cape Aquired 5-22-15 ~ Level 138Hitpoints Cape Aquired 9-21-09 ~ Level 131 + Magic Cape Aquired 9-24-09 + Attack Cape Aquired 3-5-10 ~ Level 135 + Summoning Cape Aquired 3-12-10Strength Cape Aquired 6-1-11 ~ Level 137 + Fire Cape Aquired 6-23-11 + Defence Cape Aquired 7-5-11 + Ranged Cape Aquired 8-1-11 + Kiln Cape Aquired 2-26-12 ~ Level 138Dungeoneering Cape Aquired 4-22-12 + Slayer Cape Aquired 6-25-14 ~ Level 200 + Herblore Cape Acquired 12-9-14 ~ Level 138 + Prayer Cape Acquired 12-20-14Agility Cape Acquired 1-4-15 + Hunter Cape Acquired 1-30-15 + Construction Cape Acquired 1-31-15 + Crafting Cape Acquired 2-22-15 + Thieving Cape Acquired 3-18-15Runecrafting Cape Acquired 4-14-15 + Mining Cape Acquired 4-19-15 + Fishing Cape Acquired 4-25-15 + Firemaking Cape Acquired 4-26-15 + Woodcutting Cape Acquired 4-26-15Cooking Cape Acquired 4-26-15+ Smithing Cape Acquired 4-28-15 + Farming Cape Acquired 4-29-15 + Divination Cape Acquired 5-3-15 + Dungeoneering Mastery 5-4-15Fletching Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Max Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Invention Cape Acquired 11-9-16 + Invention Mastery 5-16-19 + Archaeology Cape Acquired 10-30-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green9090 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 In retrospect that WAS my first trip and maybe I did not have the anchor on a crush setting...does it have any others? Lol yup, back when I was training my def to 99 and wanted charms, I used an anchor... many a time I would realize I had accidentally left it on the 'stab' setting, which is just awful. If you have it on the right setting, it's not half bad. Slightly better on average per hit than Z spear, but the slower speed makes it worse overall. Join "DG Sweepers" Clan Chat for Dungeoneering Floors | Accepting all tipiters who are Willing to Learn | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelby_Polo Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Ya man, you for sure have to use a crush weapon. But if you really don't want to train str, your best bet is Drag Mace (better at Waterfiends then I ever imagined), Veracs Flail (slow, 2h, but very effective and I've seen high lvls using Torags Hammers effectively as well. I know this because I'm 79 Summoning from Waterfiends. Suggest a poll for Tip.it - Here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danqazmlp Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Dmace and maybe a d baxe (if it has the att styles for you) work well, if you use a zam book/sara book with them, you get the added prayer bonus and magic def/crush att bonus. Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodus_Flesh Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Ya man, you for sure have to use a crush weapon. But if you really don't want to train str, your best bet is Drag Mace (better at Waterfiends then I ever imagined), Veracs Flail (slow, 2h, but very effective and I've seen high lvls using Torags Hammers effectively as well. I know this because I'm 79 Summoning from Waterfiends. Dragon Mace.. 1H.. Prayer Bonus.. Allows ALL training methods.. Allows Shield space for a Prayer book(for prayer again)/ Shield.. A very under rated weapons for Waterfiends.. ~Zackdt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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