Drug Vacinations

[Ouchy]

I'm a bit skeptical towards these kind of vaccinations. What's to say that the vaccination could turn sour on you, and give you the symptoms/feelings as if you had taken the drugs.

[Italian5kamikaze]

 

Except shrooms can put holes in your brain, just like ecstasy lol

 

 

 

I was under the imresion that that aws all just more govt propoganda :-k Meh i was considerin going shroom huntin cuz there's plenty of cow [cabbage] in my area :P [bleep] yea for liviin in Iowa lol

 

 

 

Nope, Im not saying dont do it, just dont do it regularly lol.

[thrash-boy]

They basically prevent the person who takes the drug from feeling any of the effects of the drug.

 

 

 

that could work, or not work at all.

 

case 1: ok lets say i have whatever your talking about here and i cant get high anymore. i say this is boring and stop taking it.

 

case 2: i have the same thing and i no longer have any effects. i can no longer tell how much i've had because i cant feel the effects and im tired and forgot how much i had had so i just take some more, and more, and more....

 

now i have taken 10x what i would if i hadn't had your miracle vaccine and im in a coma on the floor almost dead.

 

 

 

probably not such a good idea.

[assassin_696]

I'd like to see the article/evidence, but in principle it sounds like a great idea to help drug addicts. Parents should never have the right to "vaccinate" their children though, that should be an individual choice.

[Necrobean]

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Maybe if it was only short-term, but never getting high for the rest of your life would really suck for some people.

 

Agreed. Using it to break addictions to drugs like cocaine, methaphetamine, etc could be a good thing. But when you start trying to use it on people who use the drugs responsibly, there will be trouble.

 

Do you mean responsible coke and methaphetamine users? Cause that stuff isn't exactly safe.

 

It's not that bad actually, I knew some people who did coke once in a while and they were very responsible. I think he was referring to marijuanna or other light-drugs that can give you a high.

 

 

 

-Renate.

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I was actually referring to all drugs (though lighter drugs are easier to use responsibly). None of them are good for you, some are more safe than others, but all of them used responsibly can be okay.

 

Well, not all. I'm open to quite a lot of things as long as it can be used responsible but crystal meth just seems a bit... Over the top. And the fact that I'd rather stick to 'natural' things, weed, salvia, shrooms, etc.

 

 

 

-Renate.

 

 

Fixed it for you. : ~meol

 

 

 

Some drugs may seem over the top to us, but if someone can handle taking that drug and continueing to live a normal life, that's awesome. And I prefer to stick with "natural" drugs as well though I would like to try LSD and ecstacy.

 

 

 

Haha, same. It's always funny when you see someone chewing his cheek or grinding his teeth, you just know that he took ecstacy and that it's free drinks time :lol: ! Something I'll definetly try when I'm a bit older. LSD? I've thought about that before but people had experiences with it... Personality changing, it's really something you should only try when you are really, REALLY ready for it. Not when you're anxious, not when you're forced because that'll be a recipe for disaster (AKA a bad trip, something you seriously don't want with LSD).

 

 

 

-Renate. (and thanks meol for fixing the quote tags :P )

[sirgudi]

I heard it on Kerrang, so i don't know where the origional article is =/ Google plz?

[Necrobean]

Anti-drug vaccination plan could immunize people from effects of cocaine, heroin and nicotine.

 

http://www.naturalnews.com/001513.html

 

 

 

[hide=]How would you like your children to be immune to the pharmacological effects of hard drugs like cocaine, heroin, and even nicotine? Using new medical vaccination technologies, children can now be immunized against the effects of these drugs so that they don't feel the high, or the brain chemistry alterations, from such drugs if they were to consume them. Doing this, of course, would make it extremely unlikely that these children would later grow up and become addicted to those drugs. Because without the brain chemistry alterations, consuming such drugs is basically pointless.

 

 

 

It's an exciting new medical technology that has been tested in terms of immunizing people against the effects of nicotine, but now discussions are underway that would expand the program to other drugs such as cocaine and heroin and roll out national immunization programs for all children. This is being discussed in the UK right now, but chances are that it will soon merit discussion in the United States as well.

 

 

 

For my own comments on this technology, it's helpful to look at both the outrageous cost to society for drug addiction and drug use, and the potential dangers of national vaccination programs. In general, I'm against vaccination when it's required or forced upon the general public, because I believe that many vaccines are tainted with mercury and other toxins and that they can cause lifelong problems in many children. It is well known that vaccinations against polio and others diseases actually kill some children, and the public health benefit of forced vaccinations among U.S. schoolchildren is highly debatable.

 

 

 

But when it comes to hard drugs like cocaine and heroin, vaccinations start to look a lot more beneficial to society as a whole. For starters, if we could practically eliminate smoking in the United States within one generation, the nation would save countless dollars in terms of health care costs and improve productivity and quality of life of its citizens. This vaccination program has the potential to eradicate smoking altogether -- a move that would no doubt diminish the incidence of chronic diseases such as heart disease, lung cancer, nervous system disorders, and breast cancer. If we could immunize people against cocaine and heroin before they're at an age where they might start experimenting with such hard drugs, we could do tremendous good for the country as a whole by preventing drug addiction and all the lifelong problems associated with such addictions, including financial poverty, family hardships, and devastating health consequences.

 

 

 

In theory, then, I'm strongly in favor of exploring a vaccination technology that can immunize children against the effects of these hard drugs and nicotine, because I think it would save untold numbers of lives and an extraordinary amount of money in health care costs alone. But to firmly stand behind such technology, I would need to be convinced that it is inherently safe and has no other negative side effects, and when it comes to vaccinations, that's a pretty tall order. Because many vaccinations do indeed have rather alarming side effects, and we should not force a population to undergo a medical technology unless it has been proven safe and effective -- and even then, I much prefer it being a choice of the parents, rather than being mandated by the federal government.

 

 

 

Ideally, such a vaccination program, if proven completely safe, would be offered free of charge, paid for by taxpayer dollars, and publicized through public schools. Of course, I wouldn't want my own children to be the first batch of experimental human guinea pigs to receive such a vaccination, and I firmly believe that the best way to avoid hard drug addictions with our children is to give them a better education and strong family environments, where they don't need to turn to hard drugs in order to feel fulfilled in the first place.

 

 

 

Now, as long as we're talking about vaccinations, there's an interesting idea of a far more useful vaccination that could aid in weight-loss efforts by the American public. What if we could be vaccinated against the sweet taste of sugar? If so, we could end our addictions to high-carbohydrate foods, and more easily choose healthful foods that don't contain so many refined carbohydrates. If human beings were born without the taste sensation for sweetness, and without the associated brain chemistry effects that automatically follow the consumption of carbohydrates, we wouldn't be so addicted to carbohydrates as a nation. Soft drink sales would be virtually non-existent. The grocery store shelves wouldn't be lined with candy masquerading as food -- like you'll find in granola bars or pizza sauce, both of which are made with refined sugar.

 

 

 

The idea that we could all be vaccinated against the taste and brain chemistry effects of sugar consumption is, of course, pure fantasy at the moment, but it is not fantasy to suppose that with advanced genetic engineering technology we could someday produce offspring who are not so closely wired to the consumption of sugar. In fact, there's something you can do about that right now: research shows that when expectant mothers avoid eating refined sugars, their babies are born with less of a craving for sugars. And that, in my book, is one of the greatest gifts a mother can give her unborn child: a foundation for living a healthy life, free of refined sugars, soft drinks, cake, cookies, and other foods and beverages that promote obesity and chronic disease.[/hide]

[anonymous1234]

The tobacco companies won't allow mass vaccinations against nicotine. Ever. For once, I think i may be on the corrupt politician's side.

[deloriagod]

The tobacco companies won't allow mass vaccinations against nicotine. Ever.

 

 

 

And I doubt the gov't would allow it either. Tobacco is a big industry and the gov't is making some good tax money from it. If kids were to get vaccinated then they wouldn't start smoking (unless they're one of those immature kids who does it to look cool) and that would mean a lot less money going to the gov't. The only way the gov't would allow vaccinations against nicotine would be with the legalization of soft drugs (resulting in $26,000,000,000+ not going towards keeping offenders of soft drugs in prison and $1,000,000,000+ -or far higher- from taxes on those soft drugs). And since that's not likely to happen any time soon, neither is the gov't allowing vaccinations against nicotine.

[Lateralus]

I can't see nicotine vaccinations being entirely effective anyway. People like me who have smoked long enough would probably keep smoking, since it's not all about the nicotine, it's just become part of their lifestyle. A vaccination for boredom is more likely to stop people smoking.