edit again--abortion shouldnt get federal funding, if an organization wants to work privately to fund abortions then thats their matter but tax dollars shouldnt go to it.

 

 

 

He's right. The government will need that money to pay welfare to people born into poor families, who could not afford abortions.

 

 

 

wow good job of taking a tiny part of my beliefs and trying to twist it.

 

 

 

My belief stands that federal money shouldnt go to abortions. Actually, if you stopped putting money into abortions and instead poured that money into better sex ed programs we would be trading abortions for babies not being conceived. That is a much better turnout as we have less debate as to if infantacide is occuring, with the birthrate not going up. That welfare comment is also irrelavant as I have said that if the woman cannot take care of the baby they should put it up for adoption, putting them in a family that can afford to take care of the child.

She has more executive experience than Obama and Biden combined. What, Barry has been a senator for 150 days? Did you expect him to pick anyone that wasn't Pro-Life? Any such pick would've sent the RNC into an uproar.

 

 

 

The only thing she has been in charge of is Alaska.... Yeah, certainly a lot of experience there :? .

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah I don't think McCain could have chosen a worse running mate. What is even worse is that, if he wins, there is a decent chance (with how old he is) that she could very well become a president. It's just a scary thought.

 

Now THAT would be the cause of the 2012 apocalypse

 

 

 

haha!

A fish can feel pain. Hence it tries to escape when it's being eaten alive...

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think they do. I'm not really a big fisherman but I think the reason they try to escape is survival instinct and not pain.

 

You should really stop commenting on things you quite clearly know absolutely nothing about.

 

 

 

Pain serves two biological purposes. The first is to remove the organism from danger. If I put my hand on a boiling hot metal kettle, I feel nervous pain which triggers a reflex response to move me away from danger (i.e., move my hand away). Secondly, the unpleasant feeling of pain teaches me to not put my hand on the kettle again in the future.

 

 

 

This "survival instinct" you speak of doesn't exist.

 

 

 

Anyways, this has nothing to do Sarah Palin, I'm ending it here.

HAHAHAHAHA:

 

 

 

But in a subsequent email, Fisher said he strongly endorsed the Democratic ticket, and would donate a portion of royalties he receives from the Republicans' airing of "Barracuda" to the campaign of Sen. Barack Obama.

 

 

 

"With my contribution to Obama's campaign, the Republicans are now supporting Obama," he said.

 

 

 

Fisher and the Wilsons wrote "Barracuda" with drummer Michael DeRosier. It appeared on the group's second album, "Little Queen" in 1977. The song was inspired by the band's anger over an obnoxious record label executive.

 

 

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080906/peo ... t_palin_dc

^^ That just made me realize...either way there will be a state championship basketball player in the white house. That takes away one of the reasons I might want to vote for Obama.

 

 

 

A fish can feel pain. Hence it tries to escape when it's being eaten alive...

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think they do. I'm not really a big fisherman but I think the reason they try to escape is survival instinct and not pain.

 

You should really stop commenting on things you quite clearly know absolutely nothing about.

 

 

 

Pain serves two biological purposes. The first is to remove the organism from danger. If I put my hand on a boiling hot metal kettle, I feel nervous pain which triggers a reflex response to move me away from danger (i.e., move my hand away). Secondly, the unpleasant feeling of pain teaches me to not put my hand on the kettle again in the future.

 

 

 

This "survival instinct" you speak of doesn't exist.

 

 

 

Anyways, this has nothing to do Sarah Palin, I'm ending it here.

 

 

 

I don't think it's been definitively settled either way. Fishermen say it doesn't and PETA says it does. I think it's like the worm. When you put a worm on a hook it squirms. I doubt worms feel pain. And obviously pain doesn't teach fish not to bite the hook.

You're telling me that a fish has the same nervous system as a worm?

 

 

 

O...K... then. :?

Regardless of your opinion on the ethics of abortion, it's not a matter for the federal government to rule on.

Regardless of your opinion on the ethics of abortion, it's not a matter for the federal government to rule on.

+1

 

 

 

 

 

You're telling me that a fish has the same nervous system as a worm?

 

 

 

O...K... then. :?

 

 

 

No, but I've live baited a fish once and I didn't think it felt any pain.

Hehe just saw an interview with someone who is a Palin fan, when asked about her lack of foreign policy experience and the guy said she's worked with Russia and Canada on something to do with fishing. Gave me a good laugh.

Regardless of your opinion on the ethics of abortion, it's not a matter for the federal government to rule on.

 

 

 

Why not?

The tenth amendment?

The tenth amendment?

 

 

 

I thought about saying saying "Don't even bring the 10th Amendment into this" in my post, but I didn't because I had to be sure that would be the argument.

 

 

 

So, should the Civil Rights Act of 1964 be repealed?

No, the civil rights act only enforced constitutional rights. And at the very least congress should decide on it instead of Judges who are accountable to no one.

No, the civil rights act only enforced constitutional rights. And at the very least congress should decide on it instead of Judges who are accountable to no one.

 

 

 

See Amendment 4 and amendment 9. The right to privacy.

What about them?

What about them?

 

 

 

This issue is dealing with a woman and her body, therefore the Federal Government being involved is only "enforcing" Constitutional rights...no?

Enforcing constitutional rights to the baby.

Enforcing constitutional rights to the baby.

 

 

 

What baby?

The baby that would otherwise be exterminated.

Back to square one....when does it become a baby? The unanswerable question.

^^ When the sperm hits the egg. The only strategy pro-choice people have is to try and dehumanize the baby just like slaves or jews during the holocaust. No one likes to talk about killing a baby. That would mean it's human. They talk about a fetus.

The only strategy you have is to animate an inanimate group of cells into a baby with conscious thought. We're really not that much different to each other. Two ends of the same coin, and all.

I never said it had conscious thought. All I said was that it was a human. You don't dispute that do you?

Regardless of your opinion on the ethics of abortion, it's not a matter for the federal government to rule on.

 

 

 

Why not?

 

 

 

The 9th and 10th Amendments. I'm not saying they should ban it at all, that would be as invalid as mandating it should be legal. It should just be left to state legislatures.

 

 

 

The only strategy pro-choice people have is to try and dehumanize the baby just like slaves or jews during the holocaust. No one likes to talk about killing a baby. That would mean it's human. They talk about a fetus.

 

 

 

That's a little bit emotive, comparing abortion with the holocaust. It's also an invalid comparison since it really is up for debate as to when human life with all the rights afforded to an adult begins. The holocaust was an obvious de-humanisation, this isn't.

Personally I believe that if Obama does become president he'll be assassinated.

 

 

 

All it takes it one extremely racist psychopath with a sniper rifle, I mean had anyone here heard of KKK? And because Obama picks the wost possible places to do his speeches (tactical), most are out in the open with many buildings across, clearly in view of him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ Captainkidd