Private boards for players from the same country?

[chris1216]

 

If they're in public view, they'll become littered with opinionated, even racist, people who are frankly not all that knowledgeable on that country's culture or structure.

 

 

 

Imagine all the anti-American/anti-French comments?

 

 

 

I like this idea. It's just one problem that gets me - how do you prove someone's from the country they say they are? I mean, you could check IPs, but that's not exactly fool-proof.

 

 

 

They really organize by language, not nationality.

[RSBDavid]

As I said before, the best way to start it off would be to have your own thread in off topic. Kind of like the *crew* threads from offtopic.com if you like.

 

You never know what might happen if it becomes popular.

 

If they're in public view, they'll become littered with opinionated, even racist, people who are frankly not all that knowledgeable on that country's culture or structure.

 

 

 

Imagine all the anti-American/anti-French comments?

 

 

 

I like this idea. It's just one problem that gets me - how do you prove someone's from the country they say they are? I mean, you could check IPs, but that's not exactly fool-proof.

 

 

 

Why not make the other country boards open to all. Anyone could read (if they could translate) the messages. This is supposed to be a board open to all. Why force users to only make threads in English if that is not there main language. If a user goes to a board and can't translate, he/she will get bored of that forum and go to one based on his/her own language or one he/she knows.

 

 

 

and to bring up the point bolded above. I am sure there are multi lingual mods to handle that. But us Americans sometimes make anti other country comments as well.

[The Observer]

I wouldn't mind having a board for Canadians. :

[dsavi]

Maybe if the English only rule was changed to except some certain boards? I mean, I don't think that's out of the question as long as we have mods that can speak that language.

 

 

 

Phil, I'm not familiar with offtopic.com, can you explain?

 

 

 

Laila, Finland is part of Scandanavia in the "extended meaning". :P

[DarkDude]

 

If they're in public view, they'll become littered with opinionated, even racist, people who are frankly not all that knowledgeable on that country's culture or structure.

 

 

 

Imagine all the anti-American/anti-French comments?

 

 

 

I like this idea. It's just one problem that gets me - how do you prove someone's from the country they say they are? I mean, you could check IPs, but that's not exactly fool-proof.

 

 

 

And such "racist" comments would be obviously removed by moderators. Making them private isn't a good idea, putting them public would work and for example would allow for people to ask about how something works in a specific country by going to their forum. Obvious trolling would have to be strongly punishing as such comments are obviously going to be very offensive to users from the said country.

 

 

 

Saying only people in a specific country can use a specific forum in itself is a forum is discrimination and users should be able to discuss or see discussions about other countries/regions. I am against having the boards in other languages, they should stick to English. As the rules state users are allowed to post in other languages as long as they provide an English translation aswell.

[Laikrob]

To be nitpicky, users with English as a first language already have the whole forum with "their" language. I notice that most of the posts against the private forums are from people from US or UK, and I find it a bit strange that they have so much against a forum that they wouldn't even be able to view or participate in if created. There are other private forums that "discriminate" in the way that not everyone can join, but as long as it's not hurting anyone I can't really see the problem.

 

 

 

Clans are allowed to create forums on Tip.It (by contacting an Admin), a little known feature. That means country based clans can make one. From that to this idea, there isn't such a huge leap in my eyes.

[dsavi]

...If any at all.

[Adam007]

To be nitpicky, users with English as a first language already have the whole forum with "their" language. I notice that most of the posts against the private forums are from people from US or UK, and I find it a bit strange that they have so much against a forum that they wouldn't even be able to view or participate in if created. There are other private forums that "discriminate" in the way that not everyone can join, but as long as it's not hurting anyone I can't really see the problem.

 

 

 

Clans are allowed to create forums on Tip.It (by contacting an Admin), a little known feature. That means country based clans can make one. From that to this idea, there isn't such a huge leap in my eyes.

 

A clan makes a separate forum for a reason. They have private information that they don't want other clans to know about. Making separate boards just so people can speak in another language just doesn't seem necessary. This is an english site, and an english board. It just seems like you guys want to do this for the sake of doing it, if that makes any sense.

[____]

Phil, I'm not familiar with offtopic.com, can you explain?

it's hard to explain the concept of 'crews' on offtopic... but offtopic is a meesageboard which caters for.. almost everything.. and the crews Phil speaks of are groups of people with common interest... IT Crew, Kittah Crew, Doggah Crew, Gun Crew, etc... hundreds of them really. Anyhow they usually start up threads randomly specific for the interests of that crew and they can last for hundreds of pages, thousands of posts and go on for months at a time.

 

 

 

 

 

To put it comparatively with tipit... the offroaders thread in OT is close but there's evidently not enough of us to keep it alive.

[DarkDude]

Why do the forums need to be private, what sort of things would you be posting on them that requires it to be private?

[The Observer]

Why do the forums need to be private, what sort of things would you be posting on them that requires it to be private?

 

 

 

The purpose of having these boards are to have discussions with people from your own country. If it's an open board, people from other countries will come along and it really loses its purpose.

[Jimmyw3000]

To be nitpicky, users with English as a first language already have the whole forum with "their" language. I notice that most of the posts against the private forums are from people from US or UK, and I find it a bit strange that they have so much against a forum that they wouldn't even be able to view or participate in if created. There are other private forums that "discriminate" in the way that not everyone can join, but as long as it's not hurting anyone I can't really see the problem.

 

 

 

Clans are allowed to create forums on Tip.It (by contacting an Admin), a little known feature. That means country based clans can make one. From that to this idea, there isn't such a huge leap in my eyes.

 

 

 

If they users who speak another language can veiw the english only boards, then why shouldnt we be able view theirs? :/ It's not like they have private issues they need to discuss. if local news is topic worthy in one of those forums, then a topic will probably be made in off topic anyway. Unless you're suggesting that some rules are waived for those boards, but then that'll give even more reasons against it...

[dsavi]

Now here's the only reason the boards being private would be an advantage; The rules could remain the same, and remain equally simple. From what I grasp, DA was private for just the same reason. This would not have to be a hidden forum, but a private forum would, I think, make so it could have different rules allowing other languages.

[DarkDude]

Why do the forums need to be private, what sort of things would you be posting on them that requires it to be private?

 

 

 

The purpose of having these boards are to have discussions with people from your own country. If it's an open board, people from other countries will come along and it really loses its purpose.

 

No it wouldnt. Having it open will have little effect on the boards as the discussion there will still be about that region.

 

There are plenty of other sites with region specific boards and they are all open. They very rarely have people from other regions posting other than when they want to ask things about that region.

 

Not only that but having them private would be a pain to moderate.

 

I see absolutly no reason why they would need to be private

[The Observer]

Why do the forums need to be private, what sort of things would you be posting on them that requires it to be private?

 

 

 

The purpose of having these boards are to have discussions with people from your own country. If it's an open board, people from other countries will come along and it really loses its purpose.

 

No it wouldnt. Having it open will have little effect on the boards as the discussion there will still be about that region.

 

There are plenty of other sites with region specific boards and they are all open. They very rarely have people from other regions posting other than when they want to ask things about that region.

 

Not only that but having them private would be a pain to moderate.

 

I see absolutly no reason why they would need to be private

 

 

 

Yes, it would. It should be private or not there at all because if people want to discuss things with people from their own country, they can't because a bunch of people from other countries will come in. Some people would rather have a point of view from someone who actually lives there rather than someone who lives halfway across the globe and have never set foot there. I, personally don't like this "tourist" point of view.

 

 

 

Also, no it wouldn't be a pain to moderate. Since it's a private board, it doesn't show anything to do with Tip.it. You see, it will be basically like a clan, and the group leaders can decide who moderates what.

[dsavi]

Yes, it would. It should be private or not there at all because if people want to discuss things with people from their own country, they can't because a bunch of people from other countries will come in.

 

Well, I think any other people have a hard time discussing anything at all, unless they know the language in use on the forum in question.

[DarkDude]

You are far too paranoid. Not many people at all will go posting in other regions boards.

 

They would effectively be off topic but with discussion for that region, it doesnt need to be private and we cant just have anyone moderating them, they would need a proper moderator.

 

As i also said earlier in the topic if certain users troll other regions boards then they will obviously have action taken against them...

 

If these boards are put in i still see no reason for them to be private.

[Hawks]

Or even use a system like the Falador Library; registered users can see it but can't post unless they PM the mod... could say the mod uses IP addresses or such to verify country. Or add a new forum, with subforums for the different countries/areas.

[dsavi]

Geoip-ing everyone who applies isn't necessary, as to use it you just have to be able to speak the language in question.

[Jimmyw3000]

Geoip-ing everyone who applies isn't necessary, as to use it you just have to be able to speak the language in question.

 

 

 

That brings me to another point. How would you know the person in question speaks that language? And how much of that language do you need to know to have access?

[The Observer]

You are far too paranoid. Not many people at all will go posting in other regions boards.

 

They would effectively be off topic but with discussion for that region, it doesnt need to be private and we cant just have anyone moderating them, they would need a proper moderator.

 

As i also said earlier in the topic if certain users troll other regions boards then they will obviously have action taken against them...

 

If these boards are put in i still see no reason for them to be private.

 

 

 

If it was public, then all threads in off-topic would have to be moved to that board portraying to that country, and TIF would be a sub-board mess.

 

 

 

I honestly think there's at least one staff member in mostly every major country. It doesn't have to be a moderator. In fact, we can use Jemathonical (TET Leader) for example for an Australian board.

[DarkDude]

Except off topic would be for all general off topic discussion and the region specific board would be for region specific discussion. For example if i wanted to discuss a new phone or something then off topic would be the place to do it (but could also take place in the region board) while if i wanted to discuss something to do with uk schools then the uk board would be the place to do it.

 

There would be duplicate topics but the one in off topic will have views from people from multiple regions while the region boards would have a discussion about how it effects them. The best example of this would be video games where the release dates are different along with price news etc would be a lot easier to do on a regions board

[The Observer]

Except off topic would be for all general off topic discussion and the region specific board would be for region specific discussion. For example if i wanted to discuss a new phone or something then off topic would be the place to do it (but could also take place in the region board) while if i wanted to discuss something to do with uk schools then the uk board would be the place to do it.

 

There would be duplicate topics but the one in off topic will have views from people from multiple regions while the region boards would have a discussion about how it effects them. The best example of this would be video games where the release dates are different along with price news etc would be a lot easier to do on a regions board

 

 

 

There's nothing stopping everyone from going to those region boards and making the same discussions there.

[DarkDude]

Except common sense. You seem to think that everyone and their dog will go out of their way to post in other regions boards.

[The Observer]

Except common sense. You seem to think that everyone and their dog will go out of their way to post in other regions boards.

 

 

 

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